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  1. Posted

    Hello dear forumites,

     

    I also wanted to take the chance to say goodbye to all of you on this platform here, Yabba already covered many aspects very well. I myself had been a forumite long before I joined Wargaming - joining in passionate discussions, getting a warning for getting too passionate in a discussion with "Dunning-Kruger-effect" commentary :Smile_veryhappy:, using one of the first community-websites maplesyrup to take a look at ship statistics in spreadsheets and getting to know many of you during a time when were still learning how to be less bad at this game. And maybe without this I wouldn't have been so close to the game and ultimately ending up working for it.

     

    I want to say thank you for over 7 years of being part of this community, the conversations and connections that we've made over that time and for being passionate about the game. Special thanks and shout-out to all of our moderators, guide creators and helping hands that always tried their very best to help fellow community members and newbies to find their way here.

     

    Thank you and see you hopefully on our other platforms in the future!

     

    Chris

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  2. Posted

    16 hours ago, Muppeteer said:

    I hope they havent all jumped ship already but since this is my last chance to ask and when I previously did this via a PM I was told there was no help available, so I will try asking publicly in case there is someone who can help.

     

    Just like the other volunteer mods on this forum, I am also part of the Privateer program due to being a moderator on the WoWs Steam forum. Myself and the other couple of volunteer mods over there seem to have been forgotten by the program and havent received any of the normal stuff that other Privateers have. We cant make contact with the WG manager on Steam (yes we have tried), our direct contact is in Russia and hasnt been seen online for months (and rather worryingly is of an age to be drafted) and when I contacted support about this I was told "speak to your WG contact" (and yes, we mentioned that the issue was we couldnt reach our WG contact).

     

    Myself and the others have been mods for over five years and put in a lot of effort and hours helping new players and managing the forum. Recently we are feeling like we are invisible and are unable to get any help from the company that we have supported for a long time.

     

    So if any of you other volunteer mods, CMs or ST coordinators can lend a hand here or at least point us in a direction that would get us some support then it would be gratefully received.

     

    Also please anyone who happens to look at this - by all means link any people's tags who you think might be of help.

     

    Cheers.

    Hi, YabbaCoe will reach out to you and figure this out together.

     

    Greetings, Crysantos

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    5 minutes ago, Muppeteer said:

    I doubt that engagement numbers on Discord will be > Discord + official regional forums (including people who just click in for 5minutes to "read the headlines" without logging in while on a lunchbreak or whatever). With that in mind you are narrowing not increasing your potential audience. 

     

    Ifs its been under discussion internally for a long time then once again it seems at best thoughtless to only give three days notice of it happening with zero consultation with the people who actually make the forum what it is, ie the posters and contributors.

     

    As others have mentioned, there is a whole lot of content and information that has amassed here and on the other regional forums over the years, and honestly in addition to everything else this is an archive of the games history both good and bad. While its all very well to say that "people can transfer it to the new platform", do you really think its likely that this is going to widely happen? There will be a vast amount of lost user made content and the game will be poorer and less informed as a result.

     

    Finally if its not a cost issue then whats the problem with keeping this place alive for those who still wish to use it. The volunteer mods are more than capable of policing the discussions. Destroying nearly eight and a half years of your customer's discussions, guides, suggestions, arguments, boasts about great matches, bad jokes and all the rest of it seems an extremely unwise business decision.

    I get your perspective - but for us the whole aspect of official forums is a direct connection to the game, official responses and direct contact with the company. Be it in terms of announcements, answers, relationships, etc. This is why we provide our forums in the languages where we have a dedicated CM to be able to do this. Consultation with forumites wouldn't have changed the decision because it's not about the content that is available here and I think it wouldn't have changed also the perception of this decision. We know it's a tough one.

     

    And while it is indeed sad that some of these things - even my old own posts - will be lost in the digital oblivion, the things that matter to players they'll save but not everything. That nostalgia also makes me sad but I still think this is the right choice for the future instead of delaying this decision further. The digital space keeps evolving and forums unfortunately seem to be less and less what players use.

     

    We'll check about the things highlighted here that you guys would miss the most and we'll see how we can incorporate this into the Discord or other places.

     

    Greetings, Crysantos

     

     

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  5. Posted

    14 minutes ago, Wieland said:

    Hmm, die Schließung betrifft anscheinend nur WOWS. Für WOT gibts keine News in der Art.

    Ja, betrifft nur Warships.

     

    12 minutes ago, linkum said:

    Hm, warum funktioniert es dann bei WoT immer noch? Aber gut, was Anderes als Veralbert zu werden erwartet man mittlerweile ja von WoWs nicht mehr

    Das muss jedes unserer Spiele für sich selbst entscheiden, wie sie mit dem Thema Forum umgehen wollen und in der Zukunft interagieren möchten.

     

    lg, Crysantos

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  6. Posted

    12 minutes ago, Cammo1962 said:

    Hi @Crysantos I will try and ask again: What about LWMs reviews they will be lost forever or will WG make sure that they will be transferred to discord ??

    We won't transfer them from our side but the forums reviews will be accessible until end of October - which gives enough time for users to find a new home for them and then it's ultimately up to LWM to decide where to publish potentially new reviews, e.g. on Blogs or maybe with certain Discord features.

    1 minute ago, HMS_Kilinowski said:

     

    Oh, you mean you see more activity in the medium that WG bribed everyone with free containers to get them to register, compared to the medium, where everybody and their mothers had already registered years ago. I can't understand for the life of me why that is the case.

     

     

    A decision that has been kept away from us for a long time, and that now is not even open for discussion but mere acceptance. WG really learned their lessons from the Puerto Rico incident.

     

     

    So where is all that information about game mechanics, tactics and content going, that we accumulated in this forum for years, that is still state-of-the-art and only one search query away from the interested mind?

    We gotta assume this happens to the NA forum as well, right? So all the reviews of Little White Mouse, with the meticulous analysis of ship performance, the penetration graphs, in short, months of voluntary service to the community, where is that going?

    This isn't about registered playerbase, it's about activity. Less and less people are here on forums, more and more actively interact on Discord. Yes, we promote that platform but players decide where and how they want to interact - and many chose Discord. Yes we need to decide where we want to invest our time and effort to benefit as much players as possible and we know that it will be difficult for those who really enjoy forums to accept. We get that and we know it's painful, I'm not trying to sugarcoat this. But we can't be everywhere at the same time and the reality of forums is unfortunately (I say this as a forumite with many posts before joining the company) a declining one which isn't only the case for us but for many, many other games.

     

    When it comes to such content, Discord will be able to hold some of it but of course it won't be a 1:1 replacement - and content like LWM reviews will always find a home like Blogs.

     

    Greetings, Crysantos

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  7. Posted

    29 minutes ago, Diemetees said:

    Der Forengedanke stirb langsam aus ... Nun jedenfalls der der offiziellen Gaming-Support Foren. Das offizielle Armored Warfare Forum ist z.B. schon länger eingestellt worden.

     

    Und ich glaube nicht das WG Probleme mit sachlicher Kritik/ Diskussionen hat .

    Der Hauptgrund ist sicher der regelmäßig "erscheinende" Shitstorm hier.

    Sachliche Kritik genießt fast Seltenheitswert.

    Es treiben sich unzählige Trolle , nervende Meckerer und Querköpfe  hier rum ,

    so das , die an sachlichen Diskussionen interessierte User, glatt vertrieben werden.

     

    Allerdings bezweifle ich das die WG Offiziellen viel von der Kritik und den Empfehlungen hier mitbekommen haben

    bzw. es sie interessiert hat.

    Als Beispiel die Beliebtheit der "asynchronen Gefechte " , es wäre schön wenn man auf das Feedback der Community reagieren würde

    und z.B. ankündigen würde die asynchronen Gefechte vorzeitig, auf vielfachen Wunsch, beim nächsten Update wieder zu aktivieren.

     

    Das wird aber nicht passieren da die Herren ihren Fahrplan haben und davon nicht abweichen werden.

     

    MfG Diemetees

    Um hier vielleicht etwas Einsicht zu schaffen - tatsächlich ist es nicht so einfach kommende Updates zu ändern, v.a. die beiden Updates die bereits im Supertest / öffentlichen Test sind. In der Spieleentwicklung muss vieles getestet werden bevor es auf dem Server erscheint, um ein möglichst stabiles, fehlerfreies Spiel zu ermöglichen. Daher werden Inhalte ab einem gewissen Termin festgelegt und nicht mehr geändert, da kurzfristige Änderungen zu unerwarteten und größeren Problemen führen können. Die asymmetrischen Gefechte kommen zurück - ich hoffe eher bald als später. Wir werten aktuell die Daten aus, schauen was man bis zum nächsten Event verbessern kann - aber uns hat sehr gefreut, wieviele von euch den Modus mochten und viel gespielt haben.

     

    Also bitte etwas Zeit geben, der kommt wieder und wahrscheinlich auch deutlich schneller als ursprünglich geplant. :)

     

    lg, Crysantos

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  8. Posted

    1 minute ago, Muppeteer said:

    Honestly had to check the date to ensure it wasnt April 1st when I saw this. While I can sort of understand the reasoning behind it if engagement with the forum is dropping, its still a pretty weird decision to make the announcement a whole three days before the forum closes without any prior warning this was going to happen or any discussion with the community about a proposed change like this. Also has to be said that personally I often dont bother logging in daily but I will check the forum regularly in case of any interesting news or whatever appearing and im sure many others do the same. 

     

    While a few people who post here only do so to have an argument or flex their ego, the vast majority do so because they love the game despite its many flaws. Pulling stuff like this is a massive middle finger to those people who have supported the game for many years.

     

    Genuinely saddened by this. Since I assume the forum infrastructure is quite closely tied in with the other things on the WoWs regional sites was it really that much of a cost or hassle keeping it running, especially since a lot of the forum moderation was done by unpaid volunteers? Very strange decision WG. Wont be joining you on Discord.

    I can tell you that this has nothing to do with saving costs - this is more a matter of shifting our attention away from our forums to Discord, based on where we see more and more of audience being active. A decision that took a long time to make but we're not able to be on every platform - at least as official platform with the support we want to provide. And we're not cutting down on staff - our regional CMs will all stay here but shift their focus of work towards Discord.

     

    When it comes to the timescale of this - the information of forums are accessible until end of October but we'll remove the ability to post on Friday. This is a short-notice but a longer duration wouldn't provide any major benefits or change the inevitable closure that we decided to do. I understand it's painful but with less and less players choosing forums to be their main communication tool with us and others we made this decision.

     

    Thanks for staying constructive and I hope you might change your mind about Discord or our other community channels.

     

    Have a nice week!

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  9. Posted

    1 minute ago, W0Z said:

    Is it only the WoWS forum closing?

     

    There's no news of the WoT and WoWP forums closing down. As I write this the Wot forum is quite busy 504 users online but WoWP only has 47 users online. Thats the entire forums including all languages.

     

     

    This decision was made for World of Warships, unrelated to any other WG product.

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  10. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Aragathor said:

    Yeah, the issue is the rules of your discord forbid pinging staff:

     

    So you will be providing no support, because you can just ban people who have issues and ignore DMs.

     

    You're a bad liar.

    Happy to discuss internally how to make it easier to get staff's attention without too much notification spam, it's a good point. It's something that was a bit problematic when launching the Discord but things evolve, so we can see how to make that easier. But overall pinging isn't necessary to interact with our staff, with shifting our attention from forums to Discord there should be more eyes from our side on general discussions, topics and problems on Discord that require less pinging for attention.

     

    When it comes to banning - I don't understand this point. If you break rules - doesn't matter which platform you're on - you will get sanctioned, the same is true for forums or Discord. Stick to the rules, stay respectful and you won't have problems.

     

    Greetings, Crysantos

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  11. Posted

    28 minutes ago, Mortimer_Blake said:

    Da fällt mir doch glatt wieder das Statement "wir haben verstanden" von Wargaming ein.

    Auf "Discord" umstellen wurde doch hier schon mal besprochen und die Akzeptanz dafür war nicht wirklich hoch und trotzdem jetzt dieser Schritt?

    War das wierder die schweigende Mehrheit die den Ausschlag gab?

     

    Aber macht mal. Scheinbar sind euch die Spielerzahlen die eh schon rapide abgnommen haben wirklich vollkommen egal.

    Natürlich sind die Spieler, die primär das Forum nutzen, nicht der größte Fan davon auf Discord umzusteigen. Die Realität ist, dass die Foren als Plattform einen stetigen Rückgang verzeichnen, sowohl in Bezug auf die aktiven Nutzer als auch auf die Aktivität. Das hat nichts damit zu tun, wie aktiv unsere CMs sind oder wie viele Forenaktivitäten wir hier veranstalten. Wir haben bereits schon seit einiger Zeit mehr aktive Nutzer und mehr Engagement auf Discord, daher hat sich unsere Entscheidung zu diesem Schritt mit der Zeit herauskristallisiert. Wir versuchen unserer Community so viel Unterstützung wie möglich zu bieten, aber wir können nicht aber wir können nicht überall gleichzeitig sein, also haben wir beschlossen, mit der Zeit und den Spielern zu Discord zu wechseln. Ich persönlich bin ein langjähriger Forennutzer -freund- und das schon lange Zeit, bevor ich bei Wargaming angefangen habe - aber ich glaube wirklich, dass dies eine gute Entscheidung ist, auch wenn sie schmerzhaft ist.  Wir wissen, dass jede Plattform anders ist und das Forum nicht 1 zu 1 mit dem Discord verglichen werden kann.

     

    22 minutes ago, Th3Midnight said:

    Ja, natürlich. Es waren die immensen Kosten,. die den Ausschlag zur Abwrackung des Forums mit drei Tagen Frist gegeben haben. So war leider nur eine Yacht pro Quartal für Wargamblings CEO drin.

    Das muss man eben als Spieler und Forennutzer schon verstehen.

     

    Es war natürlich nicht die häufige Kritik der Spieler an WG in den Foren.

    Es waren natürlich nicht die passenden Threads dazu, wie WG und die Gier nach eurem Geld, die über Google leicht zu finden sind.

    Und natürlich waren das auch nicht die Schiffsbewertungen für die überteuerte copy pasta alá WG.

     

    Wie unsympathisch wollen Sie (noch) werden?

    WG: ja.

    Es gibt genügend Platformen, wo du deine Kritik mit uns teilen kannst. Wenn wir solche Beiträge nicht haben wollen würden, hätten wir diese hier auch einfach wegmoderieren können. Das tun wir aber nicht - wir wechseln nur zu einer immer beliebteren Platform, die auch von vielen Forenusern genutzt wird, aber natürlich nicht von jedem Spieler. Das hat auch nichts mit Kostensenkung zu tun - unser Community-Team bleibt unverändert und wird nun eben mehr Zeit auf Discord als im Forum aufwenden.

     

    30 minutes ago, Arty_McFly said:

    Trotzdem ist ein Forum einfach besser geeignet, wenn man Inhalte längerfristig zugänglich machen will. Gerade das ist doch in Discord ein großes Problem. Dies Suche dort ist - freundlich ausgedrückt - fürn Popo. Wenn man da einen bestimmten Thread wieder finden will, ist man ewig am suchen...

    Ja, Foren haben gewisse Vorteile - aber immer weniger Spieler nutzen das. Seit Jahren sehen wir sinkende Zahlen im Forum und nun sind wir eben an einem Punkt angelangt, wo wir mit der Zeit gehen und uns mehr auf Discord konzentrieren. Die Platform hat ihre Vorteile - aber eben auch Nachteile, was Foren vielleicht besser lösen. Leider gibt es da keine eierlegende Wollmilchsau die alles kann, aber es ist klar dass mehr und mehr Spieler sich Discord zu- und dem Forum abwenden.

     

    lg, Crysantos

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  12. Posted

    Just now, Bland_42 said:

    Then now here we can insult WG employees without worries about bans, correct?

     

    Cool. :Smile_trollface:

    Please stay respectful - you might disagree with the decision but forum rules still apply.

    22 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said:

    Every single thing you wrote is AGAIN WG we think this, we think that. COmmunity wants this community is doing that. Why dont you just ONCE in a lifetime of WG ADMIT you are WRONG.

    NOT to mention deciding to announce forum closure 3 days before???? Whos brilliant idea was that? So that we dont complain too much to be seen?

    WG is one pathetic company that has ZERO understanding for the players that feed them with money.

    Just shut the game also, with all these new things in WoWs its better to let it die with dignity , which you didnt show dignity letting forum die slowly. Killed it instantly like our every post never existed.

     

    There was nothing better then getting up in the morning, and with coffee reading some great things in forum, like a newspapers. And now you WANT us to go to discord and read what? kids arguing one word at a time. No ty.

    Ultra fail company 

    yes you, wargaming, mega fail!

    I understand your frustration as a forumite that you would like to keep the forums - and of course Seraphice is giving you our position because he's replying to questions. He wants to give you some additional context and insights into our decision making process.

     

    The reality is that forums as a platform are in a very steady decline, both in terms of active users and activity. This is unrelated to how active our CMs are or how many activities we run there. We've already had more active users on Discord and more engagement there for a while, so over time our decision took shape to make this move. We try to provide as much support for our community as possible but we can't be in all places at the same time, so we decided to go with the time and our audience to Discord. I'm personally a forumite - have been for a long time before I joined the company - but I truely believe this is a good decision, even if it's a painful one. We know each platform is different and you can't compare forums to Discord 1:1. If there are specifics that you worry about in terms of information getting lost, let us know and we will see what we can do.

     

    Also the forum closure on Friday means ability to post - while the content is still accessible until the end of October.

     

    1 minute ago, Aragathor said:

    I hope that WG follows up with the forum closure, with getting rid of the community team, after all they serve no purpose anymore.

    No, it just means our CMs will spend more time on other platforms like Discord to provide a better support and experience there.

     

    Greetings, Crysantos

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  13. Posted

    15 hours ago, Fatal_Ramses said:

    Whats with the hate for Ops?

    "Only 50% mission requirements done in Ops count towards objectives"

    I sank 6 ships and the first part went ahead with 3 sunk ships....

    You guys reeeealy hate people playing ops...

     

    Hi, no it's about fairness of progress in the game. There are certain metrics - like ship kills or damage - that are much easier to score in Operations than in other modes like Random Battles. This is the reason why this mode was excluded in the past. With Update 12.6 we can now add the mode to pretty much all missions so you can progress but at a similar pace as with other modes. This should be a big step for most players who enjoy operations because they don't have to play other modes to progress in missions and events.

     

    Greetings, Crysantos

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  14. Posted

    6 hours ago, Sol_reginae said:

    Yes, more appropriate compensation when receiving a drop.
    But here's the question: why only 30,000 CT?
    30000 community tokens - the cost of a container with a tier 7(!) ship in the Armory.

     

    There is one more fact, one oddity in this mystical reward.
    Rewards have too different value.
    It would make sense if such a reward was available EVERY week when watching the streams dedicated to the update, and not just on the first stream.
    Everyone who watched the stream received a "Special Tactical" container or some other valuable container dedicated to a specific event. Now - the draw, I repeat - the awards are NOT EQUAL.

    While we do compensate to a certain degree, it's still a free reward - so we don't necessarily provide a full 1:1 compensation in direct doubloon countervalue, you can see the same even for many other compensation practices in the Armory for containers and other avenues of how to obtain ships. But 30k CTs is the maximum price right now in the Armory for any item and allows you to get a free Tier VII ship or buy several Supercontainers - so I personally think that it's a very good compensation that fits well and is much better than what we were able to offer before.

     

    Similar to e.g. receiving a Supercontainer, the rewards aren't equal for everybody and that is by design. The core idea is that everybody has a reward - that reward is either 400 CTs or 200 CTs + eco-boosters - and there is a chance to get lucky. I think the overwhelming majority of users prefer this setup than just the basic common reward, which has been very consistently over the last few months the Tactical container. We'll still be using other rewarding to keep things fresh and interesting but so far the feedback has been very good for this new option and we'll keep using it occasionally.

     

    While I'd love to be able to provide everybody with multiple tries at this Mystery Drop, the reality is that it won't be possible in its current value and chance distribution. It's completely for free with no direct interaction with the game and it's meant to be a goodie, nothing more. I hope that you do enjoy the different things we do with Drops on a recurring basis and the extra things you can get for the game with it :)

     

    Greetings, Crysantos

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  15. Posted

    5 hours ago, VonMelsing said:

    Ja und was ist mit den Leuten die Arbeiten, um euch unter anderem eure Schiffe ,Dublonen, etc abkaufen zu können...

     

    Muss ich ab jetzt immer früher von der Arbeit heim.

     

    Gut gemacht Wg^^

    Es gibt auch einige andere offizielle Streams, aber die sind dann nicht auf Deutsch. Die Drops funktionieren leider nur bei Live-Streams.

     

    lg, Crysantos

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    31 minutes ago, Klopirat said:

    the compensation for the mystery drop Tier X Napoli during the KOTS was 15k CT...

    Correct - we improved this based on the feedback back then and now you can buy the most expensive item in the Naval Community tab with this compensation and we'll try to keep this level of compensation up for similar upcoming campaigns when we talk about special / premium ship rewards for Tier VIII+.


    Greetings, Crysantos

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  18. Posted

    51 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

    Man sollte "Kaufpreis/Leihgebühr" und "Wert" nicht gleichsetzen... 

    Das mag sein - Wert liegt immer im Auge des Betrachters. Aber wenn du dir einfach mal anschaust, wieviel Zeit / Aufwand / Geld es normalerweise einen Spieler kostet ein Stufe VIII Schiff zu erwerben (selbst im Forschungszweig), dann finde ich das allgemein einen guten Wert.

     

    Ob es einem das letztendlich wert ist, sich deswegen einen Stream anzuschauen, liegt wie gesagt an jedem selbst. Wir freuen uns über jeden Zuschauer, der gerne zuschaut und mitmacht :)

     

    lg, Crysantos

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  19. Posted

    40 minutes ago, Yamashiro42 said:

    Hi, is that amount correct? 30k CT is the price of tier 7 premium ship container, while you are about to compensate for a tier 8 ship...

    Yes, we don't have a Tier VIII container in the Armory Tab and otherwise you would get this compensation in credits. I personally think this is a much better deal when being compensated since you can buy several skins, Supercontainers or Recruiting Station containers than credits.

     

    Have a nice day!

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  20. Posted

    18 hours ago, Yuehajime said:

    " brandneuen Mystery-Drop " die gab es schon mal.

    Nie etwas bekommen.

    Dieser Mystery-Drop, den wir auch für den Rest des Jahres verwenden werden, hat eine garantierte Belohnung für alle Spieler.

     

    16 hours ago, Aurum1081 said:

    Schiffe "SEHR SELTEN", wenn ich das schon lese weiß ich was besseres mit 90 min anzufangen

    Ein Schiff im Wert von 40-50 Euro kostenlos bekommen zu können ist doch etwas Gutes, nicht etwas schlechtes? Aber muss jeder für sich entscheiden, ob es ihm das wert ist mit uns gemeinsam einen Stream zu verbringen.

     

    15 hours ago, Kimosabe_X said:

    Was gibt es denn gegebenenfalls als Kompensation, wenn man die Schiffe bereits im Hafen hat ?

    30.000 Community-Marken, wir werden diese Info auch noch dem Artikel hinzufügen.

     

    14 hours ago, Maeuschen_ said:

    Was bedeutet "sehr selten"? 1 von 100? 

    Werde ich darauf eine Antwort bekommen von Wargaming? 1 : 100.0000 

    Genaue Zahlen kann ich hier nicht veröffentlichen, aber im Normalfall haben wir weit über 100 glückliche Gewinner für Schiffe bei unseren Mystery-Drops. Mein Rat - bei solchen Events mit dem normalen Preis rechnen und dann ist man nicht enttäuscht und im besten Fall ist eine tolle Überraschung dabei.

     

    12 hours ago, Crusader92 said:

    Schon ziemlich mies, dass man nur eine einzige Chance auf diesen Drop bekommt, dann noch sehr selten? Setzt lieber die Chance auf garantiert und die Zeit entsprechend hoch

    Ist doch ähnlich wie bei einem Super-Container - man muss etwas Glück haben. Diese Stufe VIII Schiffe sind alle ca. 40-50 Euro wert und wir bieten hier die Möglichkeit die mit etwas Glück völlig kostenlos zu bekommen, wenn man unserem Stream zuschaut. Ansonsten gibt es garantiert Community Marken, mit denen man sich viele unterschiedliche Dinge kaufen kann.

     

    Dieser Drop wird auch noch einige Male später im Jahr kommen, d.h. du wirst mehrere Chancen haben.

     

    lg, Crysantos

     

     

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  21. Posted

    21 hours ago, stormguard said:

    can't tell if I'm more excited to have drops back or Conway's hair.

    Conway's hair is also going to be a Mystery Drop for me since he's just returning from vacation.

     

    20 hours ago, Zigiran said:

    What happens if you have all 4 ships?

     

    1: Will you get compensation (dubs? credits?)?

    2: Or will it go up the list from very rare to rare: 1.000 community tokens?

    3: Or will it randomly choose between the 3 non-ship options?

    What you get isn't defined by what you own - it's a purely random element, so like rolling the dice. In case you already own the ship. The compensation will be in Community Tokens (30k Community Tokens) since we've considered this to be more fitting to the theme of Drops instead of credits. We'll add this info to our article.

     

    19 hours ago, hypsar said:

    any hope for improved content or is this too much to ask?

    What would you like to see?

     

    Greetings, Crysantos

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  22. Posted

    19 hours ago, HisAirnessMJ said:

    This is exactly where problem is.

    If it worked as advertised, I would get a Mystery drop. Disinformation and wrong time to apply changes are Yours fault.

     

    From main page announcement, after watching 90min on all channels and getting a skin mission, next 90mins on all channels was enough to get mystery drop.

    Meanwhile, you quietly changed rules for the second Finals day from 90 minutes to 180mins only on the official channel.

     

    After watching 90mins 1st day on unofficial channel and getting skin mission, I had to watch all 180mins on official channel at 2nd stream day only for Mystery Drop because of these absurd changes.

     

    As said previously, in total of 2 days I've watched for 240 mins on unofficial and official channels, so where is my mystery drop? Its clear something got screwed up here.

    Thanks for the additional context, now I understand where your misunderstanding came from. Due to the amount of rotating streamers we always add the list of streamers available for the Drops on the article for the tournament that is highlighted right before the weeekend, in the Drops article we referred to the general flow of the Drop without specifying exact channels for that reason. We'll check on our side how we can improve that so no misunderstanding is there and you'll find a little surprise in your DM.

     

    Have a nice week!

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  23. Posted

    34 minutes ago, HisAirnessMJ said:

     

     

    From 90 to 180 mins required on official

    channel is pretty obvious change.

     

    This should not happen, it is against the announcement on the homepage.

    I'm supposed to get a drop.

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    Sorry but I don't know how else to describe this for you.

     

    This information states Drop 1 = 90 mins, Drop 2 = claim Drop 1 (which takes 90 mins) + 90 mins. Which means in total 180 mins - this is exactly the same time as we set up here - we just changed the setup in terms of dependency - so instead of having to have finished 90 mins and then watch another 90 mins, you got this Drop straight up for 180 mins. So as I said before, it's the same amount of time and nothing changed for you as a user.

     

    31 minutes ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

    - Do you know how much time / effort / resources it takes players to grind a 21 point commander, Apparently you don't either,  By game Design you want players to Grind 300 plus captains to 21 points, that is 872,400,000 Commander XP. I am no mathematician, but if i am remotely accurate using the Example Commander Experience Calculation from the Wiki. You need to Play  62,426  2.3k base xp games  to get 21 points on 300 captains.

    This requires you have :

    1 - a Premium Account,

    2 - a Permanent Ship booster,

    3 - a Green Cmdr XP Booster

    4 - Being part of a Clan ( Not Really hard)

    Now you tell me that Giving a Single 21 point captain for dedicating the time to watch your stream during KOTS is to much.  WOW.  Hey sure i can understand if he was a legendary commander like Halsey you wouldn't want every single player logging in to get her and then saturating the game with that commander.

    Further more, Surely you would like to see your Stream pick up the extra viewers because they all heard you can get a 21 point captain, saving them many hours of grinding. Increasing your viewership and potentially pushing your game to more audience by being i highly watched stream, but  apparently this is not something you may be interested in either. 

    Let's please be realistic. - Its not just 90 minutes of a stream. Its also all the years some of us have dedicated to this game. Sometimes giving that little extra may be the difference between  players sticking around. None of us play this game to grind Captains that i can promise you 100%.

     

    People wonder why developers and their Communities are  nearly always upset with each other.  "Do you know how much time / effort / resources it takes players to grind a 21 point commander,"  This comment its self shows the disconnect between the parties here. We as players love the game and put a lot of time and love and money into playing, but as i said if feels like we always get an Up Yours when we go that little extra mile.

     

    That's also true for the Halland - this is a purely cosmetic reward and it's very different from the Halland camo available previously and fits the theme of Vikings very well in terms of nations, right? - Yes you are right here, However the KOTS Theme was not dreamed up 1 week before the event, This is why i said use you road map, Plan your releases the Christmas camo never needed to be for the Halland there are countless ships with out unique camoflages. You are dropping the new line soon after KOTS right, If the TOP of the Line dd is a DD from Poland theme the Kots around that as well this ties the two events together.  I am literally trying to give constructive tips here.

    We simply have two different point of views on this. You want to connect one stream to all of our activities or years of playing - that's not fair and not how it works. This entire topic is dedicated to a long-standing tournament that we've been supporting for many years and the activities around it. Each item has a certain value in our game and we treat it like that, otherwise our way of distribution would be extremely confusing.

     

    Please, consider what comments like "if you don't give me a 21 point commander for watching a stream, Wargaming gives me an up yours..." do - you know what this results in? Less willingness to provide such unique content because we get told that by doing these things we antagonize you if you don't get a guaranteed very high value item. Our team worked very hard to get you the best rewards we ever provided for KotS - the current collection, unique commander with special voiceover, unique skin - extra chances to win ships, commanders, supercontainers, etc.

     

    Again, all of this is provided by us for those who participate in the activities around the tournament to support the tournament. I respect your opinion and always appreciate constructive feedback but if this is your expectation from us I have to say that we won't be able to fulfill it - and that sometimes happens. But I do hope that the majority of player appreciate the level of support for this community-driven tournament and all the themed content around it that they can get for free by interacting with it.

     

    Have a nice week, Crysantos

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  24. Posted

    On 5/15/2023 at 3:50 PM, HisAirnessMJ said:

    @Crysantos

     

    Ok, so you admit that You made a ridiculous silent change during the finals, doubling required watch time without any public notice.

    Changes worked on the second day of the broadcast, on the first one getting skin mission first was required.

    And it still contradicts the official announcement on the site. "The concept" you mention came in the form of a final announcement, it is misleading and nonsense.

     

    I've watched and spent as much time as I was informed on the main page, I deserve a drop.

     

    No, the same amount was required - nothing changed for anybody watching the official channel. If you watched the official channel for 180 mins, you got all content - as announced.

     

     

    9 hours ago, ItsEyeJasper said:

     

    To be honest, only getting 37k Commander XP for a  min of 4 hours  per day of watching the Stream 3 weekends in a row is a complete up yours to the community.

    What you then try to to is make it up by saying there is a mission for a free Camouflage or Commander, or a chance to get the Napoli.

    For a veteran player that participates in KOTS  and already owns Napoli , there is no point to watching the streams if you made it through qualifying.

    Basically the rewards don't justify the time committed to watching the stream, you want to encourage people to watch the stream, so do something to make it worth while.

     

    - The Commander only a 3  pointer, like come on. You have over 300 ships in the Game. Whats wrong with giving away a 21 pointer for actually being part of the community. Not relying of a Random chance. its come across as not caring for the community. 

     

    - The Camo -  Eh. its a beautiful camo, but its for a ship that you just awarded a perma camouflage in December. - Use a little bit of forward planing, you guys are literally releasing a new DD line  not long after KOTS right?  you guys have a road map, use it and plan with it. I would also suggest that you introduce 2 camos. They could be the pretty much the same but Differentiate the two between the Players of KOTS and the Viewers.  Make the player camo a little more extravagant, This make participation slightly more rewarding and hopefully encourage more signups. 

     

    - The Napoli - Fantastic reward for those who don't have it, but when you have it, you are almost guaranteed to get nothing -  How about  put ting 3 ships as an option that you could pick one of.

    Here we simply have to agree to disagree - this entire content is completely optional and earned for free. I personally fully understand if not every piece of content is interesting to you - and if you are a player who has pretty much everything in the game, then there will always be a chance that the reward given won't be to your liking. But please don't drop comments like "if you don't give away a 21 points commander, you don't care about the community" - that is really not constructive. Do you know how much time / effort / resources it takes players to grind a 21 point commander - and you expect that to be handed out for free for watching a stream for 90 minutes extra, otherwise it's disrespectful? Let's please be realistic.

     

    If you don't want to watch the tournament, nobody forces you to watch it. If you are a player who participate in KotS, aren't you interested in the actual tournament and how it's progressing? We provide an incentive and we try to be creative, try new things and theme our rewards. That's also true for the Halland - this is a purely cosmetic reward and it's very different from the Halland camo available previously and fits the theme of Vikings very well in terms of nations, right?

     

    4 hours ago, OldSchoolFrankie said:

    It's not about winning the main prize, it's about picking up a drop by pressing the button after gettin a message and then getting no feedback at all in-game.

    I thought the drops weren't working again until I was pointed out that I just wasn't getting anything, not even a message. And that's just what bothers me.

     

    And if you think we're being ungrateful or reading more into it, that's just plain wrong.

    Thanks, that clarifies it. We'll see how we can improve that in the future so that there is less confusion and some feedback in the game! For your context, we usually send notifications when players receive a reward as confirmation, so with no reward there was no notification set up - something that we can definitely improve in the future.

     

    Have a nice week :)

     

    Crysantos

     

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  25. Posted

    54 minutes ago, HisAirnessMJ said:

    @Crysantos

     

    These drops were seriously bugged.

     

    For a Mystery Drop #3, according to the website, you have to watch for next 90min, after receive skin mission, meanwhile for my twitch, I was supposed to watch for the mystery drop itself for 3 hours! (180min). 

    After stream ended I had 86% from 3h mystery drop, then it changed and currently shows 33% from 3h.

    So after watching finals this weekend for ~4h in total, i'm not allowed to even gamble for mystery drop reward.

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    Hi, we made a small change in terms of distribution which led to no change for users in terms of time needed - to include more streamers for the Halland Skin Mission Drop.

     

    Initially the concept was to have:

    • Step 1: Watch 90 mins on official channel, claim mission
    • Step 2: Watch 90 mins on official channel, claim the Mystery Drop
    • Total watch time: 180 mins

    What we changed:

    • Drop 1: Watch 90 mins on all channels that participate in the training rooms with live broadcast, claim mission
    • Drop 2: Watch 180 mins on official channel, claim the Mystery Drop (unrelated to the first drop).

    So for you who watches e.g. only official channel, this is the same flow - with actually less hassle because you don't have to claim the first drop to have progress on the second drop since they run in parallel.

     

    When it comes to Twitch - unfortunately we don't have any influence here how their system works - we set up the conditions for how the Drops can be earned. It would be good to reach out to their customer support and check with them.

     

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