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I dont mind the current WG line, I for one am the kind guy that doesnt care if they use paper ships or planned upgrades... that really only opens up for more variants of each ship to be in game at once. Vanguard sure is premium material being the last BB ever made and stuff.

yeah... no. I mean the fantasy ww2 upgrades could use more work (as in making them at least somewhat realistic), but to only use ww1 hulls and completely remove the AA is a bit too far.

If youre playing this ship in ranked its time to stop. Personally idk about what you said, but Dunkek guns have a tendency to overpen cruiser citadels at close range.. That and well Dunkek is really inaccurate both at range and close range.

Any Ship can crap on another ship if the player is good. My point is that statistically Tirptiz can absolutely wreck any tier 6 BB for a multitude of reasons. No tier 6 can overmatch its bow, not even mutsu. its 105mm secondaries can pen tier 6 BB superstructure to rack up tons of damage in close range. Mutsu has torps yea, but only 2 with a shitty firing arc has nothing against Tirptiz's 4 torps with much better arc. Tipitz is much faster than a Bayern so it can dictate the engagement over any tier 6 BB except for Dunkerque. Tirpitz has faster reloading guns with better handling and much better penetration than Bayern as well as having a 32mm bow and stern armor. So yes tier 6 BBs are very much more vulnerable to Tirpitz than Bayern. Personally I have no issues dealing with tier 8 BBs because most tirpitz and bismarck players are potatoes anyway.

Same, I was hoping the IJN cruiser flavor would be torps, not mindless HE spamming. Right now IJN cruiser torps are nothing more than a gimmick. Their insanely terrible arcs coupled with mediocre range limits their use to surprise attacks from behind islands or if someone lends you a smoke to turn and torp from.. in truth though using the torps against any target in the open is utter suicide. personally 15km torps is a bit of an overkill, but giving the higher tier cruisers access to 12km torps would help solve some of the issues with IJN torps.

so tell me is there any other tier 6 BB that can do squat against tirpitz?

I've had a slight change of heart regarding Mutsu. In ranked shes actually my strongest pick for BBs. Her dispersion pattern compared to Warspite is much more usefull for hitting angled BBs. The torps can actually cause some clutch games and the speed lets you play mobile (which is a must in ranked). The nature of 7v7 lets you be much more effectively angle against all enemies (since teams dont usually split its easier to keep angled against all enemies). This in turn negates Mutsus super tall and weak citadel. Biggest problem is her terrible AA, but luckily I havent seen too many CV players in ranked yet.

This! This is the sole reason I refuse to play the french cruisers. Such a waste of potential and in all honesty WG ignored their own gameplay mechanics to avoid doing something with this as well. but yeah well prolly see the spood beest since it isnt really effective so WG doesnt have to give two [edited] about balancing issues.

I wouldnt be surprised if they give french large DDs like Le fantastique 39 knots since you know Russian DDs have 42 knots speed so they cant take that away from them right? I'll still get really angry if Le Fantastique gets anything less than 45 knots though.

Well they dont use Dunkerques trial speeds for some reason....

I find Fuso, NM, Dunkerque and Arizonas sub 15" guns to be woefully underperforming in ranked. Having 15" or 16" guns is way to important since there are angled BBs all over the place. Most cruisers just explode at the start of the game, so the rest of the matches are usually angled BB standoffs, and the team with most 15" and 16" guns usually wins. With that said my fav BB in ranked so far is Mutsu by far. Mutsu's dispersion patter is practically made for shooting at angled BBs, I find it much better than Warspite despite Warspite having 2.0 sigma. My BB ranking so far New Mexico<Dunkerque<Arizona=Fuso<Bayern=Warspite<Mutsu Sry no screenshots, but had a ton of games in Mutsu where I carried hard.

Richelieu reached 32 knots during trials despite being at well over standard displacement. Richelieu reached 30 knots when using only 123k hp out of her designed 150k hp. In this regard WG is quite unpredictable, sometimes they used the designed speed and sometimes they used the speed the ship could actually reach. For example Dunkerque was designed for 29.5 knots, which is the value it has ingame, but it could reach well over 31 knots. Yet on other ships they use the trial speeds. For example Emile was designed (and listed) as reaching only 34knots, but on trials it reached 40 knots and in game Emile currently has 39 knots max speed. Personally I find Dunkerque to be a little weak, so buffing the speed to the actual historically correct value would be fine.

Underarmoured and severly undergunned BB that is

I disagree about the first strike capabilities. For example Cleveland has double the volume of guns with faaaaar better accuracy as well. I guess the heal is its strongest point, it gives Graf Spee close to 70k health if you get the most out of the heals, using flags, premium heal and superintendent. But yeah I will say its easy to do well in Graf spee, but very hard to get any sort of outstanding games.

Still, most of the armament and clutter is left up to WG to decide.

I personally disagree, It lacks the DPM and mobility of cruisers and the tankiness and penetration that BBs have. Its better than ships like N-berg sure, but still even more RNG dependent than normal BBs. Its abysmal at HE spamming and even gets outrun by BBs like Kongo and Dunkek.

sorry I misworded there, I meant to include never finished ships. Graf Zeppelin is one of my fav carriers so ofc I know it was laid down, but it was never finished thus all the info is in the sketches, the rest is up to WG

I know, but why would I ever want Spee? Not only do I already have it, but it sucks big time.

Very good to know I was initially not gonna buy them, but If I can use normal IJN cpts on it then I may just change my mid. Just the usual non-clarity and inconsistency WG is going for I guess.

I have never lost that badly... but I have certainly won like that :^)

Modeling ships that never existed is actually much easier than modeling ships that existed since sketches are quite simplistic and unfinished ships are not too tied to historical accuracy.

You were obviously the first triggered one lmao. First you play dumb then just throw the triggered card... stop playing yourself pls

Are you really going the "kid" insult route? "oh shut up" is just a way of speech, it wasnt a literal command in any way, calm down lmao

yeah, people dont know about it.. it seems WG didnt make it clear enough. Also that one guy at the end of the game is going to lose, but runs away anyway. Wasting his time, everyone in the battles time and wastes a chance to at least get some more damage in before game ends...

You really look at average performances when deciding if a ship is good or not? Oh wow