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Blucher also had only 2x3 torp launchers afaik. Meaning everything you mentioned and losing torps it may work perfectly as tier 7 With the 203mms already fitted to Lutzow it would make sense it had them ingame. Also I would love if we could see Russian 37mms and 100mm on it isntead of the German ones for extra flavour. As for Seydlitz I see why we cant have a 4x3 150mm as a premium ship. I mean at tier 8 it would make perfect sense and it would at least be a big break from all the 8" guns on those high tier KM cruisers. I really love the german 150s, but I hate the ships they're a main armament on.

You forget to mention that Amagi's torpedo belt extends over the main armor belt and covers much of the upper plating, which basically protects the ship for HE damage as all HE shells that hit torpedo belts deal 0 dmg. So in short Amagi is much more tanky in practice due to this and the fact that she sits much lower in the water. These two alone outweighs the torps and AA in my eyes, not to mention all the other ones.

So range is being buffed, as well as RoF and Turret traverse to values still worse than Amagi? Well I think I'll be skipping it unless they buff torps to 8-10 km Currently Tirpitz beats Kii in both Torpedo volume and quality. While Kii has 900 more damage, Tirpitz's torps are faster and much more stealthy and ofc the extra tube per side. I was hyped for this, but the core gamplay design of Kii is all over the place. I'll be waiting till they sort it out.

Yep the AA has to go in favour of either more mid range prowess or more brawling strengths. What really grinds my gears is the torps though... 2x3 shitty 6km torps isnt really the IJN flavor at all! At least give them 8-10km ones to keep it in line with other IJN ships and at least give it some laverage over Tirpitz's 2x4 torps with better stats. I mean Tirpitz has one more tube per side plus 1knot better speed with much better shorter detection range. 900 alpha doesnt make up for that... So much for keeping torps as the IJN national flavor...

With Kii buffs it still looks like a straight up worse Amagi... Worse Reload Worse sigma Worse Turret traverse Worse range Worse Concealment Worse Torpedo belt Worse armor layout Sits higher in water.. Gimmicky Torps and better AA wont make up for it lmao

Same Then again Fuso doesnt have cruiser dispersion :^)

+1 WG fix this plox

Important thing to note is that it has a 1.5 sigma, so it will still be far less accurate than a normal cruiser.

Yeah IFHE all the way people

In the current GK build I will never not use an IFHE secondary build... It just keeps on producing amazing games and results. If they ever somehow nerf this I'll be very mad (ignore the icons and border, currently borrowing a pc ya see)

Hey WG thanks for creating a Line of ships that has little to no counterplay, a line that is so gimmicky that it doesnt fit the bill of "BB" at all, a line manages to powercreep both Cruisers and BBs at the same time, a line that has so strong strengths that some ships are completely USELESS against it, a line that has such strong glaring weaknesses to certain enemies completely destroy it... WG has managed to create a line that is super painfull to play against AND is frustrating to play at the same time despite being very strong (if not OP). I ask why didnt you just make a normal BB line? The line's strength couldve been good guns and extremely low citadel... not "Super heal and better than cruiser concealment with a sprinkle of HE that has very little counter play to it"... So dissapointed atm... Will not keep my hopes up for whatever line comes next unless they make it very clear they are going back to the roots of the game.

Your post made me cringe.

"Secondaries arent good on GK" HAHAHA literally over 37% of my damage was done with secondaries and the fires they started. You want DPS go secondaries mate

I dont agree with how badly written and ragey your post is But I agree Missouri Radar just idiotic and needs to get nerfed... if not they should at least make it impossible to buy the ship anymore. Its a shitty power creep and is totally unfair to other classes of the game. But hey they cant make the most expensive ship in the game balanced right? Ofc when selling something it needs to be OP right so more people will buy it when they realize HOW TOTALLY UNFAIR IT IS. I have refrained from buying Belfast and Missouri for this exact reason. I bought Kutuzov way back when, but I thought it was gonna be a one off kinda thing... but oh noes WG just keeps pulling more and more OP prems out of their arsee and further the powercreep... hopefully they'll stop before it gets like WoT...

Got a friend who likes the ship. He usually hates playing it because of all the shitty high tier games and if there are any AA ships nearby planes just rain from the sky. On the other hand tho he got one good game during a day of only bad ones and ofc he got reported. Personally though I wont buy it EVER unless they buff the secondary range. If they get it to 5.5-6.5 km base range I'll buy it... Such a waste, the IJN carrier with the best secondary potential ruined by some WG soft stat nerf. I mean its not like usable secondaries will make it OP haha.

Yup thats my synopsis... FUN Killing a NC from half health within a minute with secondaries only is so much fun. Seing how they try desperately try to turn away all while you use main guns to citadel a cruiser 14km away.. man this build is a double strike machine! Its like its made for it.

It depends what you like best. 406s are just a bit more reliable due to the reload. On short range the 406s have more pen than the 420s believe it or not. On range however the 420s beat 406s. 420s have flatter arcs and generally pen more reliably at range. Pen at long range is more important to short range pen, so its just down to RoF vs. reliable penetration/slightly higher alpha I would aslo pick 406s if you use HE a lot. The RoF gives you a bigger chance to set a new fire before an enemy slips into cover or gives you a few more seconds of burn time if you get two fires in a row and enemy repairs the first one. Generally I used 406s for my FdG, the RoF is 28 seconds on it instead of 29 seconds as it is on GK. The lack of a big number of guns on FdG made me like the RoF as it lets me just put more volleys out there instead of praying so much to RNGsus. FdG has also much better turret traverse which means you take a lot more oppertunity shots, those often appear when reloading, and the window to fire may be to short for a 32 sec reload. Having a few seconds shorter reload will often decide if you are able to take the shot or not. As for GK 420s are my pick. When a ship has that many guns the damage you can put out in one volley is alpha - omega. The 12 guns ensure you at least get some good shots each volley in comparison to FdG. In comparison to FdG, GK has much slower turret traverse so every volley is much more carefully planned. Meaning that having as much damage and reliable pen as possible each volley is a deciding factor for success. And lastly ofc GK only get 29 sec reload as opposed to FdGs 28... tl;dr 406mm guns for Fredrich der Grosse 420mm guns for Grosser Kurfurst

Well a seasoned player can do well in any I mean ANY low tier ship due to all the bad and new players at those tiers. Still I do ALOT less damage in Myogi than I do in any of the others. Buffs are needed. Currently Myogi is throwing off many players. I had to sit down and tell my friend plently times that once he got to Kongo things will change. Kawachi is slow and boring sure, but Myogi is fast but does really nothing else to let you know what kinda line youre getting into. Once my friend got to Kongo he loved the whole line (except for Izumo ofc). So hadnt it been for me he would have switched lines...

WG has always noted DP guns under secondary when the gun is the only AAon these teasers

So this just happened: Note the 97k dmg from one torp... Yeah I dodged 4 volleys and 2 TB drops in a GK that game, in the end one hit me and outright killed me... Yeah nice way to reward my predicting and reading the situation to dodge the torps.... I usually keep my Detonation flags for DDs since they get detonated all the time by even other DD main gun shells. Seems like I have to use them on BBs as well. The worst thing about detonations is that its no way to get the flags without dying to it... WG NICE WAY TO REWARD GREAT PLAY!!! Oh wait I hope WG will add an actual intuitive or predictable detonation mechanic... you know like a fire will detonate you if you fire your guns to much... or HP bars for Magazines instead of a straight RNG check... WG should prioritize fixing stuff that only really make players angry, not this "DX10 slightly but not really noticable effects enhancement".

That may make sense, compared to the Russians they trade some HE potency for better gunhandling. I really just want solid normal BBs though, not any of that gimmicky super stealth/super heal [edited] that currently defines RN BBs

If you wanna have best HE possible use 419mms Want the best AP possible use 457mm The 457s have better velocity, pen, sigma and has some insane autobounce angles. So the 457s are so insanely much better when dealing with angled BB since you can pen them even when they are angled and 20km away due to the auto bounce. On the other hand though the 457mm guns will have much slower velocity on HE shells compared to the 419s so no reason to pick 457 for HE. Personally I will use 457 since it offers the most unique playstyle. Playing with the 419s seems line playing an upsized cruiser. Plus there are plenty other 12 gun shotgun BBs one can play. I already got GK, Fuso, Arizona, Arkensas beta and I will get to Montana one day as well.

Well in the germans case gunpower was never intended to be their strength, hence why Bismarck has 8 15" guns while NC and Amagi has 9/10 16" guns. From what we know historically the italians will most likely have gunpower as their national strength, just like the russians really.

The 419mm guns has gotten its sigma nerfed by .2 and auto bounce angles got a huge hit as well since then. The 457s was left untouched so whatever CCs said about this in their reviews/impressions are null and void.

Well, maybe. Then again Cesare has much smaller guns and the reason instead is that SHE HAS CRUISER DISPERSIOOONNWAAA I CANT WAIT TO PLAY IT!!!!