Affeks
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Tirp along with Germans ships are random game ships, not competitive and ships with relatively low skill ceiling yet easy to master. THey are perfect as they are now
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BENSON!!! Its best in AA Smoke AND still has good torps, guns and concealment. top notch ship always love having one in my matches
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"94" Yeah WG didnt think this achievement through Ideally I'd want this achievement to be reachable even if a CV isnt in the match
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Clear skies with CV happens actually quite a lot for me... but its completely unreasonable for any other ship considering the two [edited] criteria. idk if I have gotten clear skies in anything other than CV since cbt lmao
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I love my Eugen, but only when not matching against tier 10s
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sure enough.. I'm just thinking that Hippers strengths arent really strengths tbh, so at least its RoF can be on par with the competition?
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Not even good players cant use the guns entirely to their strengths since a lot of the time enemies just dont show much side. In new orleans even the smallest of broadsides get citadelled or 9k penned, in Hipper however you need a close to perfect enemy broadside paired with the right timing AND right ammo type loaded. Even then the gun volume is low and turret placement inferior to NO or CM. In short its undergunned in most ways possible. Sure the guns themselves are good, but just so many other factors are lacking compared to the competition.
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It really is undergunned though. HE spam is so abysmal that tier 6 cruisers blows it out of the water. Sure AP can get super good volleys, but the fact that its so insanely unreliable means its not even close to as effective as USN AP despite much better shell arcs. To get much out of the AP Hipper needs to be played aggresively, but since you cant slot Hydro-AA seperately, it lacks heal AND has shitty concealment makes it close to unusable. Conclusion Hipper is severely undergunned compared to all other tier 8s
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its equal to ~8% so its actually pretty meaningfull, especially when considering just how undergunned it is
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They should just make 155 Mogami a premium tbh
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Exactly why I said "From a gamplay perspective" and not "From a historical perspective"...
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Personally from a gameplay perspective I dont see much difference between this and Mutsu/Nagato situation tbh.
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Scharnhorst is the most unique of the two. Both have quite similar playstyle however. I'd say Scharnhorst
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What tiers ships are placed on will hugely make the experience different Currently Hipper/Prinz are only really fun when You can play aggresively... That entails No <16" BBs on enemy team and no tier 10MM THat usually doesnt happen, but in tier 7mm that might happen much more, therefore creating quite the different experience. Also there are no saying WG will be as boring with Blucher as they were with Prinz. Maybe they change some other stuff around
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This is hardly an argument to exclude a potential ship...
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Okay wait nvm, SMS Blucher would fit better as a tier 4-5 Cruiser and would prove to be quite interesting compared to most armored cruisers ingame. I still hope WG will find a way to include multitple ships with the same name. I really wish names will not stop great gameplay opportunities from appearing in the game.
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Viable argument, but personally I have no interest in more premium armored cruisers that offer nothing but repetitive, slow, point and clicky sealclubbing. Tier 7 Blucher > Tier 3 Blucher Any day
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Mutsu is Nagato's sister ship, but placed as a premium one tier down. Also plans for a stock Amagi as a tier 7 premium are also in place. October Revolution is a sister ship to Imperetor Nikolai, but a tier higher. Ibuki was just a repeat of Mogami, so not technically a sister ship, but so similar only soft stats and tier 9 module really makes the difference. A part of the community also wants a stock Kongo at tier 4 as well as Kongo's sister ship with late WW2 refit as a premium tier 6. Monarch and KGV is the exact same ship, just with different guns. Konig Albert is a sister ship to Kaiser afaik. The list goes on and on and I'm sure there are tons more, if not in game at least waiting to happen.
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Sister ships have been placed at different tiers before and WILL happen again. I just think the amount of premium german Cruisers are somewhat limited and pushing Blucher down to tier 7 with stock Hipper AA, Slightly reduced RoF, two less torpedo mounts and tier 7 cruiser armor would make perfect sense from a gameplay point of view to get as much variety as possible. I have been thinking about the KM problem of reusing names, and it seems it will be a pain in the [edited]going forward. Tbh though I dont think Blucher at tier 7 wouldn't necessarily push a power creep. I mean we already got ships like Myoko down there which is in many ways the exact same ship as Ibuki at tier 9 except of course it lacks the tier 8 and tier 9 modules which makes all the difference in the world. In Seydlitz's case I wouldn't mind if they saved the name for another ship... But what I'm really wondering about is whether Seydlitz would have used the Nurnbergs 150mms or another version. If so we could end up seing a very fast 5-6 second reload cycle. As for Lutzow I think it will only appear as a Russian tier 8 premium under Petropavlovsk or Tallinn. No reason to force it into both nations when we already have Eugen and Hipper (and Blucher) there.
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New Orleans may be fine, but WG had to pump out some ahistorical RoF buffs and reduce the detectability by a shitton. Also Hipper really isnt fine. Compared to all other tier 8s it has a giant lack of reliable DPM while also lacking a good utility like Radar or having Hydro in a seperate slot. Sure the 27mm armor buff and 1/4 HE pen buff helped, but it really should either get a Heal so it can play aggresively or having Hydro in a seperate consumable slot so that it gets that KM Cruiser flavor back.
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CAs should get heal CLs have a more offensive consumable like Smoke/Torpedo Reload or if it doesn fit the national flavor it could have yet another utility All cruisers should always have at least two Utilities available at once (Radar, Hydro, AA), with exception if the ship has Smoke which is so strong it counts as two consumable slots imo For example New Orleans currently have Radar (Utility 1) and AA (Utility 2), but lacks heal (CA special feature). Another example, except here there are no changes are necessary. Kutuzov has AA/hydro (utility 1) and Smoke (Utility 2 AND CL special feature) For Hipper/Eugen/Yorck it would be Hydro/AA (utility 1), Catapult fighter (utility 2), Heal (CA special feature) French Cruisers Would have Hydro/AA (Utility 1), Speed boost/Catapult Plane (utility 2), Heal (CA feature) IJN CLs could have AA/Hydro (Utility 1), Catapult plane (utility 2), Torpedo reload (CL feature). USN CLs could have AA (utility 1), Hydro (utility 2), Radar/catapult plane (CL Extra consumable) Cruisers should be the KINGS of utility, the goto ships for defense against torps, planes or smokes.... currently though they are at most glass cannons. What I described are basically tier 9-10 cruisers... I know but thats the whole point. At those tiers the cruisers at least have enough staying power to at least play more aggresively to use their consumables and utilites... Such a waste lower tiers are reduced to whatever they are now.
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Spotter planes is a must on most BBs, Shooting camping targets over mountains for free citadels is a must. After the catapult fire nerf there is literally no reason to pick fighter anymore.
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Warspite is tons better. If they buff QE turret traverse to at least what Warspite has then maybe we can discuss it. Untill then QE is the weakest ship in the RN BB line.
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This is why I hate GK and Hburg... I dont think captain retraining is needed. Since KM cruisers get 1/4 HE pen rule you dont really need IFHE or anything else compared to a normal KM cruiser. I know since i use the same cpt for Nberg and Prinz I was thinking maybe the 100mm DPs you see on stock Chapa/Dimitri and 37mm V-11s and 25mm 2M-3s. They would mean that Lutzow has worse long range, but slightly better short/mid range AA. Afaik Seydlitz and Lutzow were heavier than the others, meaning more HP. From my calculations Lutzow will have closer to 50k HP. Meaning it will need soft nerfs here and there. AA is one of them, and the other could be removal of one triple torp mount for example.
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What is the current strongest battleship line and why?
Affeks replied to thiextar's topic in General Discussion
Conqueror Insane HE Good accuracy Agile nonexistent citadel Insane Heal Insane concealment More than good enough AA Need I say more
