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Being stationary with Dunkerque is prolly the most unsuccessful way I played it. Its way to squish and provide no good overmatch advantages so you get countered by any 15" gunned BB angling and pushing you and the HP is way to low and armor is way to weak to defend against the incoming HE rain. Staying on the move is such an advantage for this ship, alot of it has to do with good turret traverse and turret layout which synergizes well with speed. Speed boost might be enough to give it enough of an disengagement and flanking advantage to bring it over the edge for me. Sure the bonuses it gives doesnt seem like much, but in match ups where every knot counts it really helps. I mean I can really feel the difference between Zao's 34.5 knots and Hburgs 31.5 knots. Speed boost would give Dunkerque ~2.3 knots extra top speed with better acceleration to boot. People underestimate the impact of that acceleration (even for BBs especially when evading torps). I mean it would also fit the flavor that more modern french BBs (tier 8-10) get speed boost, and while Dunkerque isnt as modern as Richy, its still closer in concept to Richy and Alsace compared to whatever the hel Lyon or Normandie is

Spood beest consumable so it actually has any sort of mobility advantage over Kongo, Normandie or almost every tier 7-8 BB out there. 29.5 knots really isnt fast enough to warrant being crap in all other aspects. Just look at Gneis, super duper speed, but only trades by having slightly worse main guns than its competition. Almost everything else about the ship is damn near insane, from AA to secondaries to torps to the armor layout.... Meanwhile dunkek pays for terrible size, terrible guns, terrible AA, terrible armor layout, terrible HE protection etc etc... So if Dunkek is gonna retain that mobility as its strengths then giving it spood beest (so that it can also reach historical top speeds) seems like an obvious choice SO THAT MOBILITY IS AN ACTUAL STRENGTH. Getting fired up sorry, but having heard Sub_oct say himself it doesnt need it makes me mad.

What I'm implying is that you should try more to realize theres a bigger chance that you yourself didnt play optimally and that if you try better to address that you will have a better time playing the game and actually be able to win said "landslide" games instead of complaining about a non-existing issue in an attempt to protect your pride.

Winning games in this is easy, I rarely have issues with landslide losses and loss streaks UNLESS I KNOW I PLAYED BADLY MYSELF. git gud /thread

Alabama is by far the best and most competitive, Its the whole package. I personally love the ship, super agile and stealthy paired with very powerful guns and impenetrable AA. Ofc Citadel is low in the water and torpedo defense is some of the best in the game. The guns take a few games to get used to, but they are so good once you get comfortable in them. Kii and Tirpitz also have their moments, Tirpitz is the most noob friendly, but has a pretty low skill ceiling. Kii has some of the same tools Tirpitz has and a few more, but is much more squishy, less stealthy and less agile. It has a high skill ceiling, so lots of stuff to get good at and learn about the ship. I like Kii more than Tirpitz, but most would say otherwise. Hood is one of my fav tier 7 BBs, but its not really good enough for me to recommend at all. Its fast and tanky, but guns leave some to be desired. Dunkerque is really bad, just dont even consider it. tl;dr Get Alabama if you think youll be playing the game a lot, but I would recommend premium time as transfers to WoT as well. Albama is only minorly different than North Carolina so its not like Alabama is very unique either.

Kongo is arguably better than Dunkerque even a tier down. http://bit.ly/2ExHCHK. Smaller target, better armor, more HP, better concealment, better range, better dispersion. The rest of Dunkerques strengths dont really address this. Id take Kongo to a tier 8 game over Dunkerque any day and thats no joke. But yes Normandie is borderline OP as well, only really balanced because of tier 8 MM.

Dunkerque: Long, high profile ship with 25mm plating all over and a tall superstructure Normandie: Short, low profile ship with armored upper plating, extended main belt, even 30mm deck in certain areas and small superstructure

Dunkek doesnt need buffs? Okay okay wtf.... Lets see: http://bit.ly/2F4ldmt HMMMMMMM Worse survivability, worse mobility, worse concealment, worse main guns... BUT HEY DUNK GETS BETTER TURRET LAYOUT AND A CATAPULT PLANE SO IT DOESNT NEED BUFFS RIGHT

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My IFHE secondary GK loves when DDs smoke me up. The secondaries dont expose me in smoke and still deal more damage to bow on BBs than my main guns do.

Hydro kinda makes sense when you consider the brawly undertones of the ship and the german national flavour is Hydro. Also its very situational so not that big of a deal to add. On the other hand Repair party could have been more interesting.

For 1pt skills its only really direction centre and preventive maintenance that are worth getting. So got a point left over? Get both. If you only take one 1pt skill then its just a choice of preference. Personally Id go direction centre. I dont use auxiliary armaments 1 on Roma as both secondaries and AA are garbage. So PM and Main Armaments mod 1 becomes overkill on a BB.

Did you get enough for the collection through the missions?

All of this. I also agree that from a gameplay perspective Large cruisers fit the high tier cruiser bill. But even from a historical standpoint they should be high tier ships. From things like when they were built to contemporaries that are already ingame. Alaska - Baltimore (Iowa) Stalingrad - Moskva Also while having cruiser armor these CBs also overmatch almost the same thresholds that cruisers do. Overmatch is a pretty defining characteristic of BBs, something these CBs dont have.

They couldve just as well gave Fuso 29 knots lmao "just extend the hull bruv anyone can do it"

After looking at Normandie I dont see a reason to play Dunkerque. They are basically just as fast except Normandie has betterr turning cirlce, better gun number, better concealment, much smaller target etc etc Well Normandie has worse AA, but Dunkerque has garbage AA as well so whats the advantage really. Sure shell ballistics, but its not all good as it produces overpens even on low tier cruiser citadels...

Has purchaseable premium status for tech tree ships been discussed? Like you use doubloons to make a tech tree ship behave like a premium ship when it comes to not being required to have commander training for the ship. I mean to me it seems like a win win solution for WG as it encourages some players to spend more money and on the other hand lets player keep some of their favorite ships without needing to train a new captain for it. So players like me and WG both benefit. Ofc its not a p2w element as whoever can just get a new captain for free or just never retrain the captain for another ship to begin with. Lastly it could help limit the amount of players only running high tier ships by giving them the incentive to play more lower tier ships. Ofc this could create a problem with sealclubbing, but that could be mitigated by limiting premium status availibility to tier 5/6-10 ships only.

BFT is the most wasted skill to use even with secondary spec. If you run with secondaries you need to cram as much survivability in there and on third line there are 2 super good skills for that. SI and BoS, if you play defensive go with SI, if you play very aggressive and try to close out game fast go BoS. Most importantly though I wouldnt recommend a secondary build unless you go 100% in for secondaries. There are two builds I use for GK: The most competitive one by far is the main gun/tank build. Just go main battery accuracy and you can push wherever and still be a threat. My fav build is the rather uncompetitive, yet super fun IFHE secondary build. If you ever use a secondary build on GK, USE IFHE OR DONT GO SECONDARY AT ALL. The IFHE lets your secondaries pen even Montana and Iowas 38mm plating/deck, of course this includes tonnes of 32mm plating on tier 8-10 BBs. Im talking huge damage here. My highest damage record was with this build for a while (318k). I suggest everyone interested take a look at this thread and see just what results this build puts out.

French BBs was one of my most anticipated lines. Many potential cool and unique paper designes. Like the Dunkerque preliminary, a slightly smaller Dunkerque with 2x4 305mm guns... Perfect fit for tier 5 right? Other examples like the 37 000t proposals, a Gneisenau like ship with 3x2 406mm guns, seems like a fit for tier 7 right? Ofc Strasbourg could be tier 6 or 7 as well. Gascogne could have been a good tier 7. Its basically a Richy with worse turret layout. They could have fitted it there instead of soft stat buffing it to tier 8 as there are so many other good fits for tier 8 premiums (clemanceau, 3x3 15" Alsace, Jean Bart if you want to go that far). Ofc there were 3x4 305mm designs that could compete with Scharnhorst at tier 7... But nooo. We get mutant paper ships on tier 6 and 7 with zero, I MEAN ZERO BACKTHOUGHT. They could have made such a cool line of ships super easy. Idk if its lazyness or if they could save money on asset recycling, but damn WG integrity falls really short with this line. In terms of ship design (not gameplay) this is the worst one yet. BY FAR!

I dont find Roma guns to be more reliable than Bismarcks though. Like in every way except dispersion the guns are awesome. Compared to Bismarck where everything except from RoF is awesome. Not to mention just how many other strengths Roma has over that ship. She works fine. By far the best tier 8 BB to play in tier 10 in my opinion.

Sigma buffed to 1.9 and cooldown on repair party reduced by half. So 40 sec cooldown on premium heal... Range nerfed but who cares about that.

There isnt really any other place for it. Not enough firepower for tier 9 and too healthy and too much AA for tier 7.

Okay so its both the old ognivoi AND a DD. Now Ive never had a Mino gun be permanently knocked out so I dont think its gonna happen too much to Blake. Yeah Im not that stubborn about tier 8 anymore haha. I also think tier 7 is just perfect for it.

Does turret number matter as long as the DPM is there? It would be a minor drawback with the fear of having 50% of your firepower knocked out (I didnt find it that problematic with Dunkek), other than that youd have more or less instant turret traverse and a better AP performance than Fiji as well.

With a shell output close to that of Fiji I dont think its a problem... also post war ship with most likely a lot of auxiliary tools