IceyJones

solange offizielle CCs spieler in ihren streams potatoe, idiots, plebs, [edited], mongoloids, etc. nennen, darf ich die auch so nennen. wem das nicht passt, kann ja mit barbies spielen gehen. das ist auch gewaltfrei

to balance on stats alone, even with this extended approach, there will be flaws that need constant adjusting to new metas. as in one meta one ship is overperforming because of its nature. it was build to have this features. when you now balance it, it will struggle as soon the meta shifts to a different direction. means you have to balance again..... and so on and so on the YY example is perfect for this. i doubt the YY is overperforming now. i bet the exact opposite is the case. result is, that we dont see many YY at all atm. abd because of the CV cancer we have a steep incline of 20km shimas on the servers. because for many it is the only way to play a DD in this meta. and montanas? we did not see many in KOTS for example. her previous good AA is no more and does not grant any protection. so why not switch to either fast or tanky BBs like repus and yamatos? and thats exactly what we saw. you cannot prevent the OP CV strikes anyway. and while we saw many zao or hindenburg in previous kots, they are now totally out of the game in competitive. hinden has CRAP AA (previously one of the best) ad zaos concealment means CRAP now with the omnipresent CVs that just f*** the zao in 2 bomb runs. the max range snipers with good DPM or accuracy are the meta now. making all ships overperfom here now. henrys, yamatos (with legendary), moskvas, stalins. as soon you balance them and the meta changes again, these will underperfom suddenly. so i see the WG approach a bit ambivalent so nerf these ships?! no.......nerf the ship that is causing the actual meta. in this case, the CVs in general and their potential.

no......i always told that CVs cannot be balanced and should be removed TOTALLY from this game! period

nah...HE bombs for the win 4 bomb hits.....on a gearing......13,3k damage.... balanced

fun and engaging so tell me, mr wise guys, how these 2 DDs should have adapted?! going with the blob of ships, hiding in A? also "fun and engaging" if THIS is then the way you would like to see this meta head to, then WG is doing all right......

the intended removal of the skil gap in the CV class was an utterly failure. actually it increased! now you have the total potatoes, that do ZERO damage because they are too stupid to not fly in straight lines, and then you have the total pro's that even modify the drop angle to hit different types of armour depending on the target, in order to maximise damage. the other totally broken point is the complete shutdown of a whole class, that leads to the camping and lemmingtrain cancer we have now. without DDs and CAs being able to lead the charge because they get crap on after 1 minute of the game, nobody has fun anymore.....except the CV that does the shitting. and even with the reduction of 25% in overall damage output, this will not change because the stupid spotting mechanic that opens up the ship for the whole team. bad for all unarmoured targets. and that last point is the reason, CVs will never get balanced.

yes.....average. and you are the best proof that CVs are OP and the method to balance things according to their potential is a solid method. and where you get the potential from?! from the guys who are the best! you sir are downplaying CVs every thread you find. its not the first time you try this! Edit* Language Please! Excavatus

no.....because they piss me off every game. and because even the most average potato performs better than usual in OP ships/classes (like you), the only way to balance classes between each other is to look at the unicum stats! and when they perfom 50k average damage MORE in CVs than they do in BBs (highest damage dealers of surface ships), something is broken simple....and effective comparison nerf CV damage potential by 25% minimum. then they are on paar with BBs...... and if the average potato struggles then afterwards, its his own fault! like in any other ship class......a bad CA player gets deleted 4 minutes into the game and gets red stats....why should the CV potato gets carried by the game mechanics like CV potatoes gets carried atm?

i compare unicums with unicums. and when one class sticks out too much, its OP....simple. you dont need to take the average potato into account. just compare the best and what they can do with it.

yes.....because even the best players in each surface ship are not able to pull such numbers.....simple

tell that the DD, that gets crap on for 10k every 20 seconds tell that the cruisers, that get crap on for 15 k every 20 seconds and yes.....even a BB with 100 k HP get crap on faster than he can heal. for 20k...every 20 seconds! means he is down in 2 minutes. in this time you get ONE heal off......ONE! so pls, mr CV main, stop downplaying CVs and their potential in order to keep your OP toy. because when even a player like you can get unicum stats in this class, it shows how broken they really are

you sir would not play different, even you were top tier ever game.... and regarding the midway: seems pretty powerful to me! when you guys are not able to get it work, work on YOURSELF! because these numbers are as disgusting as haku stats and in general: no other ship class has this potential! even the best players in the normal surface class ships are not able to pull equally placed numbers and WG will never be able to balance this class. period

alaska ist alles andere als OP. aber das haben viele bei der stalingrad auch gesagt.... und die ganzen plebs die das vorher trotzdem behauptet haben uns sie JETZT doch haben, sind plötzlich ganz still, weil sie damit grad mal 50% winrate und 60k schaden hinbekommen

alaska für echtgeld......geil! noch mehr high tier noobs die sich einkaufen, ohne ne ahnung zu haben........ bin schon gespannt auf die buff alaska-threads

there are no no-fly-zones anymore. now you can dodge most AA fire and at least strike once.....even AA cruisers. and you know that better than anyone. so ur statement is just a try of knowingly misleading others

all other attacks i can counter a CV i cannot counter and that is the main difference since closed beta its just impossible to balance surface ships with airplanes and implementing CVs into this game was the most braindead idea, WG had (beside artillery in WOT, but this cancer class cannot spot for themselves at least)

dann will ich für alle anderen klassen aber auch unlimited HP haben, denn das ist das, was die CVs im prinzip haben! regenerierende flugzeuge als angriffswaffe! ein surface-ship muss schliesslich sich selbst anbieten wenn es in feuerreichweite will. ein CV muss das nicht was ein schwachsinn hier

and he thinks, this is MMs fault as MM is the same for all players, tell me, how this is possible? ur the kind of players i would flame in game with "l2p" and i do it here also: l2p

coming along with the new meta and enjoying the game are 2 sides of the coin last 21 days: so clearly i come along with the new meta, even in DDs.....well....according to stats i come along the best in DDs. but so i enjoy the new meta? 100% NO! its stupid, its nerf wrecking and sad to see 3 classes playing around ONE other class in order to survive. should it be that way? for sure not! degrading 3 classes to slaves to serve one?! no...... the coin should be shiny on BOTH sides

a clanmates gearing got oneshotted by midway divebombers eliminating rockets will not help the DDs, when there remain other options to nullify this class

ofc he likes it he is a CV main and mediocre at best in other classes and to state, that DDs are "so much fun now" is just ridiculous. with nearly all AA cruisers having also radars and the permaspotting....yeah if YOU like that and have no problems with that, we all know, what kind of DD player you are. 2nd row player

the trend is there for a long time. players play more and more passive but with the hit of 8.0 its out of hand now. players form blobs of ships at map edge and barely move at all. the stupid spotting of planes after 30 seconds in the match is one factor the idiotic concealment nerf for all ships is another

CV spotting nur als minimap-spotting. die lösung ist so naheliegend und wäre zudem auch noch realistisch. flugzeuge können ein ziel gar nicht so genau lokalisieren, als das es als zielhilfe für schiffe dienen würde (zumindest nicht ohne GPS, was es damals nunmal nciht gab). aber als generelle info immernoch teamdienlich nur schiffs und radarspotting sind hier durch triangulation genau genug und können verwertbare zieldaten an andere liefern. aber mit logischen argumenten kam man WG eh noch nie bei

when i played in average 20 matches per session, its now down to maybe 10 as i cannot stand the game any longer than that. the mostly sad thing is, that the whole playerbase started playing like horseshit after the rework in general, and even if no CV is in the game, the matches go "strange" and totally off any common sense. there is no "grey" anymore. only black and white.......in MANY points of the game you look into: - matches are either blatant defeats or total rofl-stomps. the matches that make fun are very very rare - players either camp the whole match, or yolo suicide. there is no switching between aggression modes anymore. players are totally digital and stay either 0 or 1 - CV players are either 100% useless or dictate the match. the rework made this gap between players even worse and the impact they have - CV strikes either do nothing or they devestate you (specially as DD) and to predict the outcome of a CV attack is impossible. this ads to common frustration about the rework in summary i have to say, that the game just does not make fun anymore in 90% of matches, because above reasons. sad thing..... and when i check around the discords, mostly the good players are frustrated and quit playing or they started trolling as new CV player. if that was the intention of WG, then this rework was a perfect success.....get rid of the better players in order to less frustrate the average potato?! who knows also KOTS will not be the same with actual meta. it will be a mess........and even top clans participation is at stake atm

in einem echten gefecht stehen dann aber 5 BBs hinten, die nur drauf warten, dass der CV die mino zwingt seine schützende insel zu verlassen...... so oder so......die mino ist tot