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Have you play T7 CV yet? no? good!!! you just save your WR
El2aZeR replied to Hiro_016's topic in General Discussion
Yeah, no. In AS you can't do jack. - Fighter cover? Good luck if your team splits into two flanks. Or your enemy attacks different flanks. - Scouting? As soon as you pull fighters to scout you're leaving your team alone. Scout with bombers and enemy fighters will simply go deny your scout. - Dealing damage? Hahahaha, no. Meanwhile Hiryu is free to scout (since you cannot pull fighters to deny his DB scout) while at the same time being capable of exploiting any opening you give him with his TBs. AS is absolutely worthless in all facets of CV play. If you were unable to outplay it in a Hiryu, go l2p. Any well played 2/2/2 Hiryu did absolutely [edited] all over AS Ranger regardless of the skill level of the latter. Just like any higher tier IJN CV did against any higher tier AS USN CV. Even with 3 fighters against 2 USN AS remained worthless as all out. There is literally nothing a USN AS CV can do to deny you because with every choice he makes he gives you another opening. Most of my Clear Skies were farmed against them, even against players that were actually top of the line (read main CV players from any famous clan) which I would've probably had a lot more difficulty with had they played an actually useful setup. I'm actually a bit sad to see them go in that regard. Having decent strike ability helps you in maintaining air control. Without strike ability you become so easy to outplay it's not even funny anymore.- 34 replies
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New american CV...another indecent gift for Premium CV
El2aZeR replied to OOAndreasOO's topic in General Discussion
Those may as well be 12 TBs considering Saipan has much faster turnaround times than any of her contemporaries, especially compared to Ranger. L2p dude. You're getting forced to be useful for once, so live with it. AS wouldn't save you against a Saipan anyway. It doesn't even save you against a Hiryu. -
Assuming that: - the Conq in question does not know WASD hax - the Conq in question has been through a thorough shower of HE shells (or otherwise it will utterly shred an air strike regardless of tier) - Shima DW torps are actually going to be useful (hint: they won't) Aka yeah, if the Conqueror is stupid he'll be easy to kill, just like any other BB. No, really? Who would've thought? Also I once caught a Conq in a perfect torp spread from my Fletch leaving him with around 1k HP. He faded and reappeared with half HP 30 seconds later. Torps are totally effective against the Conqueror.
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Would general ALT suppression help the CV cause ?
El2aZeR replied to PseudoMi's topic in General Discussion
Just remove auto drop for bombers completely instead. Sure, it might reduce CV population even further, but the remaining players along with any potential new ones will be better for it. A completely fine sacrifice to make imo. For those that don't play CV, imagine if you could use your main guns in the same way as secondaries (without any captain skills influencing them ofc), aka they shoot on their own but completely suck at hitting anything. Basically a horrendously bad aimbot. I see no reason why CVs should have this when other classes do not. -
Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"
El2aZeR replied to Deamon93's topic in General Discussion
Wow, way to disguise a buff to BBs. Literally everything but Main Battery mod. 1 is pretty much useless for cruisers and DDs. Torp tube mods benefits are negligible. At best perhaps a viable choice on IJN DDs, but even on those I wouldn't take either of them. +20% of nothing is still nothing as has previously been proven. Heck, even if it were another extra +100% AA and secondary mounts won't survive much more than they currently do. Taking either would be a complete and utter waste of an upgrade slot. Cruisers and DDs certainly won't use GFCS mod. 1, they have plenty of accuracy. It's an upgrade that solely benefits BBs. So basically we have: A couple of noob traps. A ridiculously miniscule buff for cruisers and DDs. A hilarious buff for BBs. -
Have you play T7 CV yet? no? good!!! you just save your WR
El2aZeR replied to Hiro_016's topic in General Discussion
You called? :) I mean, he's obviously a case of git gud, but he at least got one thing right: When facing a Saipan in anything else you better pray that he sucks. When facing a good one your sole counter is counterstrafing. Even that is tricky due to how ridiculously fast her planes are compared to your own, not to mention the UI may simply decide to screw you over. T7 is a bad bracket for other CVs solely because the Saipan exists. You can play around full AA Scharns/Gneisenaus, you can avoid Atlantas, but facing a competent Saipan is a ridiculously monumental task that allows no mistakes whatsoever. This on the other hand... When USN AS still existed I could outplay it while playing KC in the background. AND taunting my enemy in chat. It was literally the easiest thing to do in the entirety of CV play. Now that it's gone you should be glad you're actually forced to be useful.- 34 replies
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Air supremacy must be removed from this game
El2aZeR replied to U156dasboot's topic in General Discussion
Yeah, if you can't outplay AS, especially at high tiers where you're given so many tools to do so, then l2p. -
Your incompetence is astounding, really. Imagine you're playing a ship. That ship can attack around every 2-4 minutes as its maximum rate of fire. That ship risks breaking its guns by firing at the enemy every single time. Not by enemy action, by literally firing. Enemy ships can project a forcefield by playing in groups of 2-4, depending on their ship class and nation. Some single ships can do that alone, too. That forcefield will not only break your guns guaranteed if you fire at them, but also make them completely immune to any damage you're theoretically capable of dishing out. Fact remains that the hull of CVs remaining "invulnerable" if they play it right is completely irrelevant, as there have been plenty of design choices made to ensure that it is traded off. Whether or not you acknowledge such things is completely subjective on your part and doesn't make it any less true. I am being condescending because you deserve every last piece of it as you have completely failed to understand how CVs work. All you see is what you want to see. And then you even have the audacity to spout utter and complete nonsense based on your extremely narrow views and even defend them instead of trying to expand your knowledge about the game. Excuse me for dealing with that in an appropriate manner.
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No. Not by incoming fire. Please learn to read. You risk them by FIRING. By EVERY single ATTACK you make.
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Your failure to understand how CVs work makes your whole point of view moot. Imagine if you had to risk getting your guns permanently destroyed every time you fire them. That's a CV. It's such a crippling weakness it more than makes up for their "invulnerable hull".
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Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)
El2aZeR replied to Kancolle_Kongou's topic in Off-Topic
You fool! In Touhou games there is only one character to play! -
WG fix [edited]BB AP against DDs already
El2aZeR replied to ClappingLollies's topic in General Discussion
Dunno if you picked this a a simple example or really don't know this, but the defender ribbon requires a certain cap threshold by the enemy to get. If you wanna farm them, you need to wait a while before shooting the enemy that is capping again. Which is really stupid imo. -
New american CV...another indecent gift for Premium CV
El2aZeR replied to OOAndreasOO's topic in General Discussion
Really good AS players get outplayed by other good players because AS is a fundamentally flawed setup. -
Oh yeah, totally forgot about that. I was testing that myself while doing everything else (since I was actually surprised to see Conq's rear gun blow up when I was hitting her stern plate even when I was sure I never actually hit her turret). I can confirm that the barbette nowadays apparently counts as part of the turret. Honestly not sure why such a change was necessary.
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No difference in CV play was observed in regards to these changes on my part to be completely honest.
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Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)
El2aZeR replied to Kancolle_Kongou's topic in Off-Topic
http://store.steampowered.com/app/716710/_Antinomy_of_Common_Flowers/ I see our lord and savior demands more donations. I shall comply with my utmost pleasure. -
You're vastly overestimating the skill level of the average player.
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Dude please. Clubbing at T2 means you're going to be bottom tier every time. Truly dedicated seal clubbers do it at T1.
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Nope. Why would I even try? Yamato shells should have a higher angle of fall at 37km than Monty at 30km, therefore Yamato has a higher chance of reaching the citadel of a Conqueror through the bow/stern. Besides, there is no map that lets you spawn 30km away from the map border stern first, making any test with Monty impractical. Angle of fall is modeled after real life values. We know this because others have taken their time to thoroughly test it. Therefore you only need to apply real life values to whatever distance you're shooting at, which can be found e.g. here: http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/index_weapons.php (Though it should be noted that not every gun has its angle of fall listed on this website.) Certainly, as it is completely irrelevant due to the combat distances found in the game as well as ballistic properties of each individual gun. Neither have anything to do with tier differences, therefore tier differences can be discarded as a relevant factor, as should be obvious to anyone who has some basic understanding of physics and/or naval gunnery. And as I have proven above. Clearly, I have dismissed you because my stats are better. I have not totally provided page upon page of scientific evidence, all of which contradicts your position. But hey, trying to take the high road only makes your defeat more delicious. :)
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What Were Your Greatest Gaming Achievements Today ?
El2aZeR replied to Hanszeehock's topic in General Discussion
I got my first chatban today! :D Also how to win a battle as a CV with only 2 torp hits: -
Hm... true. On a more serious note, I'd like to see the reactions when WG implements CVs in CB and completely destroys everything from strategies over viable ships to upgrades and captain skills. I have a feeling it'll involve a lot of torches and pitchforks. Before anyone says that will never happen, it's actually a horrendously genius move from a business perspective as it potentially forces players who play CB to spend money on completely rebuilding their loadout from scratch. And if there is one thing WG has proven, it is that they like money. A lot.
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Clearly rebalancing the entire game because scrubs cannot handle CVs is more effortless than fixing what is a pretty good base concept. Genius.
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Yeah, if you actually aim for the deck. Otherwise they go through whatever you're aiming for unless RNGesus wants to screw you over. Shell angles aren't nearly steep enough at any range found in this game to bounce off of the belt armor. Or the flat stern for that matter. Or any side armor. Ingame no ship has an immune zone, because it is usually found at well over 20km. Likewise shells don't plunge steep enough at any realistic combat distance to penetrate the deck due to autobounce. To overcome autobounce you need ranges in excess of 25km, if not 30km. And before you give me bs about how I used Yamato to test at 37km, Yamato still has overmatch, meaning any theoretical real life immune zone is completely moot in the game. Ah, so it's the tier difference you're concerned about. Something that is actually completely irrelevant due to the nature of ballistics, which you still seem to not grasp, as well as the combat distances found in the game. But meh, since you asked for it: Now, will you still cling to that pathetic point? Please refer to one of my first tests if you don't mean "point blank". If Monty cannot do it as I've already proven, neither can Izumo/Amagi because they have better shell arcs. But since you honestly seem to be too stupid to understand the basic nature of ballistics, here: That should shut you up.
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Give back the Bogues AS setup please!!! It's wortheless now!!
El2aZeR replied to Sargento_YO's topic in General Discussion
I agree, please bring back USN AS setups so I can have an easier time outplaying them.- 29 replies
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New american CV...another indecent gift for Premium CV
El2aZeR replied to OOAndreasOO's topic in General Discussion
You honestly thought using AS gave you a chance against Saipan?
