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Your failure to read the entire post is amusing as all out and represents perfectly your level of intelligence. Alternatively you're trying to only quote parts that kinda fit your narrative while leaving out everything that contradicts it. Either way it's pathetic. Personally I'd either tone down the damage potential of strafe at low tiers tremendously or give low tier CVs more fighter reserves. Strafing quite frankly isn't hard (it is literally just lining up a forward AoE with minimal aiming required), but it is most definitely a vital skill to possess. Likewise dodging a strafe should be well within everyone's skill set. As such it's a bad idea to remove it entirely in the early stages of play where all the important aspects are being imparted, but they should be made more forgiving.

As said previously, removing auto drop will warrant severe nerfs to the damage potential and survivability of low tier aircraft. Which is a much more elegant solution than what WG came up with. You just love to keep repeating yourself regardless of how hard your arguments are getting crushed, don't you? Information that has been out for about a year and a half hasn't reached this guy. Who would've thought? Please go educate yourself before you continue to spread your nonsense. https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/96327-dev-qa-about-the-game/?tab=comments#comment-2368029

Because being close to achieving your desired playerbase despite all the hurdles, noob traps and the farce that is T4/5 CV play means it is completely broken. Go figure. It is the RNG element you're so vehemently trying to deny.

Clearly removing all noob traps and streamlining the learning curve has nothing to do with making the average CV player better and teaching new players vital and important skills they will need later on. No, we must remove all skill based elements from CV play and turn it into a screensaver. AA. Thank you for demonstrating your vast knowledge about CV play.

Doesn't Ibuki have one of the longest ranges of all cruisers with serviceable arcs and flight time to boot? So just sit back, dodge and spam HE. She worked just fine for me this way. Though to be fair it's been a long long time since I last touched her. As in "she used to be the cruiser with the largest stealth firing window"-long.

Clearly demonstrating that your argument holds no value at all by turning it around on you as an example is me getting desperate. If anything you're the only one getting desperate if that is the only thing you can pick on. But that isn't exactly news to anyone. Oh, look, I was right. Who would've thought?

When attacking a DD you need both of your TBs attacking at the same time from different directions. This is especially true when you only have auto-drop to work with. (Well, not precisely at the same time, but at least in quick succession so he has a smaller chance to dodge)

Just a repeat of the last thread. You ARE really running out of arguments. Again, this is a f2p game. That 3% can represent a huge part of WG's income. How much a class is played is completely irrelevant in that context. And no, if it is within your inherent design it is perfectly fine to have fewer people playing a class. Healers in RPGs for example tend to be comparatively unpopular, but are a vital asset in any party. But thanks again for demonstrating your oh so vast knowledge. Clearly. As has been shown in every single one of my suggestions. It is so incredibly obvious that you know plenty of the problems new CV players are facing as you clearly have loads of experience. Oh, wait, you're a potato. No wonder you want CVs to require no effort. You just want to succeed over everyone who is more skilled than you because you're tired of getting your aft handed to you but don't want to put in any effort, instead electing to moan and whine. Heck, you can't even make ridiculously overpowered ships work. Typical behavior normally attributed to BBabies. Your pathetic argument can go both ways, you know? But I highly doubt it'll keep you from beating a dead horse. As clearly seen in KotS where a single ship is able to wipe out an entire strike. Oh wait. Now you're just straight up delusional, but hey, what else is new?

Isn't this just a repeat of the last thread? Are you running out of arguments perhaps? To repeat myself, maybe I have such a high winrate because I play to the advantage of my team? That playing to benefit your teammates is the most likely way to win in this team game, especially when the enemy does not? Ever thought about that? Utterly, completely wrong. Mechanical skill is for the most part utterly irrelevant in CV play due to CVs being a decision driven class and the UI being extremely restrictive regarding APM (and high APM isn't needed anyway because CVs aren't nearly as multitasking-intensive to play compared to other RTS titles). Neither strafing nor manual dropping takes loads of skill to pull off. It's about when against what to do it, not how. And if you're gonna tell me that watching the minimap is too much then I guess the entire game is just too difficult for you. The fact is that most CV players, even most of the statistically speaking good ones, simply haven't grasped the basics of CV play which allows me to outplay them with ease even if they can multitask, manual drop, strafe and all that. On the other hand someone who has grasped the basics of CV play but isn't as mechanically skilled will give me a much harder time and while it is not a guarantee that he will win he will at least be able to gain air parity with me despite my supposed superior multitasking skills. This is due to the inherent traits and limitations of the class itself, thus cannot be overcome with superior multitasking that you deem oh so important. Which I also explained previously. So, how long will you keep repeating your jokes? They're kinda getting old. Because clearly making CV play require less interaction than The Sims will make the game so much better. The other classes would not totally complain about getting murdered by what essentially amounts to a bot (and they'd be right for once) while CV play will not totally degenerate into a boring screensaver you can interact with one or two times every 3-4 minutes or so. Genius and totally entertaining game design. How you've gone under the radar for so long is beyond me. Fact: CVs were not meant to be a popular class. It in fact hurts the game if they're too easy to play and succeed in. Last I heard the desirable CV population lies between 5 and 10%, so with 3% we're actually not far off. But I highly doubt this will stop you from spouting your ludicrous nonsense. But thank you for proving that you have not only utterly, utterly failed to grasp even the basics of CV play and what is required to succeed in it, you've shown that you do not understand game design in the slightest.

That has been discussed over and over again. Fuel limits would be ridiculous and solve nothing, really. If the duration is adequate it will already be too long for every other class. If it is adequate for every other class it'll be extremely prohibitive for the CV. Also fuel would make fighters essentially worthless.

Meh, there's a long long string of failures made before either of those. In fact, both of these changes have been directly caused by that, too. Which ironically is now the reason CVs need a rework. A couple of problems used to be the same back then, sure (*cough* UI *cough*), but new issues created by their negligence piled up over time, creating the dilemma we're facing now.

Really? Considering WG's track record so far? I mean, if they're capable of doing all that it surely is a great thing. Until that actually happens however I'll keep a healthy amount of skepticism. I just see neither reason nor a way to overhaul CV play on a fundamental basis while keeping all the roles that they're supposed to play as designed. There's plenty of ways to improve CV play as it is right now (many of which I have and will continue to advocate), but imo tackling the very foundation of it is not the answer.

As I have in every other class, with the difference to CVs being that I can disregard my team for a good part. What is your point? And how would you know that this isn't entertaining on a competitive level for the CV player? Knowing that what you're doing is important and thus contributing to the victory of your team isn't enough? What is your point? The people camping on your team would've done so regardless of CV presence, as is proven by the many games played without CVs in them. In fact, quite a while back there were almost no CVs in this game, with the population being ~1% of the playerbase. BBs still camped like no tomorrow. Your beliefs are worthless in the face of actual facts.

You're grasping at straws, aren't you?

Because clearly this is caused by CVs. It's not totally typical behavior rampant among the average playerbase despite CVs appearing only in every few games. Nooo, gotta blame the CVs. Besides, shouldn't you be a proponent of such behavior considering you'd like this game to be more like a simulator? Your hypocrisy is astounding, really.

You're not very intelligent, aren't you? Your arguments also have to be a running gag at this point.

Because to be able to do so requires specific traits. Traits that simply cannot be implemented in, say, a Battlestation type of gameplay. I've also lost plenty of games I would've had no issues winning in any other class. You're entirely reliant on your team to contest caps and give you openings. If your DDs suicide or BBs camp in the back while the enemy team takes all the objectives there is literally nothing you can do. Ofc if your team is playing halfway decent then you can further that advantage if you play accordingly. You can also look at CV play. Spotting and... Oh, that's it. Thank you for making my point.

Because CVs are the primary teamplay forcing mechanic in this game. They are also the only class entirely reliant on their team to be useful. The thing is that this is their only inherent ability. CVs can inherently only spot and do nothing else. Nowadays not even that from time to time. Cutting down spotting would mean increasing the capabilities of CVs somewhere else. DD gameplay is supposed to suffer as DDs were never meant to go all lone wolf, either.

Not really, CVs are capable of performing well above their inherent potential match influence because they are allowed to by the vast majority of the playerbase, not because they're inherently broken. Though really, this depends entirely on your point of view. If you do not believe WoWs should be a team game then yeah, CVs are fundamentally broken. As are all other classes in fact, but CVs are the most obvious. The question of accessibility also has to be put into perspective. CVs were never meant to be a popular class. In fact, it is completely undesirable to have CVs as a popular class. While current CV numbers are well below projected estimates they're actually not that far off. Though what I really meant is current CV play, as in the requirements of playing CVs successfully right now in random battles. They're not nearly as ludicrously high as most make them out to be, as demonstrated by iChase himself ironically.

My reaction during the entirety of the time he talked about current CV play which should hardly surprise anyone as iChase is known to be a mediocre CV player at best. I would even go as far as call him bad. Like really, really bad. Have to give him credit, though, his analysis of the "Battlestations gameplay in WoWs" stuff is pretty much spot on. (YouTube videos should automatically embed as soon as you paste the link) No, good CV players know how to play around the tier difference and have for the most part no issues in doing so. It'd just exacerbate the disparity in skill and cut down the population even further while having barely any impact on aircraft-surface ship interaction. That's ofc assuming anyone would actually continue to play T6-8 CVs. You could go around such a "fix" entirely by just playing T9/10. WG would probably also have to offer a refund for every single premium CV (which to be fair they will likely have to do anyway unless they choose to keep the basics of CV play).

If you have all your squads on the front line (aka in areas where they can get strafed without risk) you are either incredibly confident or incredibly stupid. Besides, unless you plan on using each squad as an individual unit, which I would highly advise against, you only need to keep track of 4 groups as you're stacking TBs and DBs anyway. You could also attack once you have secured air superiority or pulled the enemy out of position. After that, target selection and attacking becomes a checklist which you can work through in a linear manner with no multitasking ability involved at all. You're making CV play unnecessarily complicated for yourself. If you can pull that off, that's fine. It's still not required, however. We're talking about the skill floor, not the skill ceiling. The only time when your multitasking abilities truly come into question is when you have to simultaneously attack and defend, but even that can easily be worked around by, for example, simply delaying your attack. It is easy to form your play into a chain of events instead of constant immediate action if you understand the basics of CV play, almost completely forgoing multitasking ability entirely. The only thing you truly need to do on a constant basis is watching the minimap and adjust accordingly, just like with every other class.

Apparently Hakuryu is now a DD. Is this how the CV rework is going to turn out?

Thank you for disqualifying yourself from this discussion as you have perfectly demonstrated that you have no idea what you're talking about. Hint: CV play doesn't require much multitasking. In fact, the amount of multitasking required is laughably minuscule compared to contemporary RTS games. Heck, it is for the most part impossible to even micro in a decent manner because the shoddy UI simply doesn't allow it as I previously stated. At best you need to watch the minimap while keeping your immediate focus on the situation at hand and act accordingly, something you have to do in every ship. You're telling me that's too much of a requirement? CV play is primarily about decision making. What targets to pursue how and when. Which engagements to take or avoid. What position to abandon or support and so forth and so on. When you have the basics down you can even give far more mechanically skilled CV players a hard time because superior micro ability matters extremely little. And if you haven't gathered from the other thread, where you have spouted the same nonsense btw, the removal of auto drop will warrant severe nerfs in terms of damage output and survivability of low tier planes. Something WG should've done in the first place instead of removing vital game mechanics.

Free exp ship that is not a BB?