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What can I say? Studying game design payed off big time. Also you better use all that free exp to get a Midway or Haku asap. Can't wait for hilarious CV div. - fighters are practically gone - AA got such a massive nerf you have to stack hilariously for it to be effective (long/mid range AA can be dodged, only short range AA counts now) - single squadron attacks a few planes at a time = multiple attacks from a single squad = hilarious dot stacking = guaranteed death of the target - rockets with which it is literally impossible to miss thanks to huge spread + high density. Also it seems like those rockets set fires 100% guaranteed Basically CVs have gone from team support to ludicrous damage farming monsters that can delete ships at will. Just as I predicted all those months ago. On the bright side every red potato should be able to play them now. If you can call it a "bright" side.

That reminds me, yo @avenger121, didn't you predict that the rework is going to be a massive nerf overall? Well, WG has just given CVs the ability to kill any ship at will via stacking fires and flooding. Totally looks like a nerf to me. Also ONE rocket salvo = 2 fires on a BB. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 3k damage on a DD + 2 fires. Literally impossible to miss thanks to huge spread. JESUS WG. PLEASE. I CAN'T BREATHE.

I ofc mean all the that whined about CVs and wanted them changed. Well, here they have it. This is what they wanted, now they have to live with it. I have to say, the gameplay looks exciting tho. It's extremely overpowered, but exciting. Never guessed that either.

Wow, so we basically exchanged spotting for massive striking capability. Big surprise there. No one ever predicted that. AND no more fighters = massive nerf to AA. Remember, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED.

Honestly we'll only need to check which consumables won't make sense, anything else is pretty much a given. Which so far is hydro. Which in turn can be mounted on the CV so everything goes. *cough* GZ *cough* Brilliant move by WG btw. This way they can keep introducing gimmicks for "diversity" to pump out new lines and premiums. This is the single most important aspect to me and I never even considered it before now.

Consumables on aircraft? Remember when I talked about air mounted radar as a joke once? I'm so sorry. Also 400 APM? If I try I can maybe get 100 and that's only because I'm usually also playing KC, AL and GF in the background. That's right, CV play is so undemanding that I can play 3 other games in the background without performance loss. The current CV UI only registers about 2 in 5 commands anyway if you aim to reach high APM so it's physically impossible to utilize it anyway.

Nope, Fletcher. Pretty much won the match 4 minutes into it. Rest of the time was spent farming.

Honestly having a big 48+ player gamemode could be hilarious. I can't see it happening without the performance going down the drain however.

Unless ofc they can reliably set fires. Just imagine, one pinpoint rocket attack = four fires on a BB. 10/10 would support.

Meh, I got chatbanned yesterday because I stated I'm having fun in a match. Everyone knows the system is broken. WG isn't interested in doing anything about it however.

I wouldn't expect any official reply to the problems at hand considering it's sunday. I'd be very surprised if anyone is in office right now. Sucks but we'll likely have to wait until tomorrow.

Seriously tho what was the artist thinking doing this to the poor girl? Or was it actually ZUN? That I would understand at least.

So I just saw this: I don't think that's going to discourage anyone considering BBabies who go there likely aren't intelligent enough to read signs anyway.

Honestly if you want a torp boat you should go grind a Fletcher instead. She's far superior in pretty much every aspect to her IJN counterparts, including the combat performance of her torps.

Oh, you think I'm talking about CVs? How hilarious. Though in case of CVs I need to adjust to AA ships as well. I guess everyone should get Nikolai AA?

Skill-based MM wouldn't work with WoWs as the playerbase is far too small. We have an active playerbase of ~25k on the EU server. For skill based MM to be reasonable we'd need at least four times as many, if not more. There are a bunch of things I would change about the current iteration of CVs along with forcing tutorials that explain in depth the various mechanics of the class any new player wishes to play. Compensate them with a few goodies to make it worth their time. Beyond that I don't think anything can be done. Not that it particularly matters what I would do. WG has practically told us to the face that they don't listen to advice from skilled CV players. I have to adjust my play to DDs, too. I guess DDs should be removed? I have to adjust my play to BBs as well. I guess they need to go just the same? I need to adjust... well you get my point hopefully. Thank you for proving that you have nothing but baseless whining to add.

That depends entirely of how skilled the respective teams are. The dream scenario for any CV is potatoes against potatoes. Skilled team vs potatoes ends way too fast, not allowing you to rack up numbers to make up for CV economy. Potatoes vs skilled team usually means you lose by default no matter how hard you shut down the enemy CV. Skilled vs skilled means you'll spend most of your time doing the most unrewarding jobs ever (aka spotting and denying enemy spotting) which tends to make you end up on the lower half of the scoreboard. The good thing for CVs is that potatoes vs potatoes is incredibly common thanks to the absolutely abysmal skill level of the average player. And ofc if anyone wants to dispute how bad the average player is, two things: 1. Have you been playing the game recently? 2. I can regularly take caps in my CVs. A session that ends without me having done that at least once has become incredibly rare. If you want proof I have the screenshots to back it up. If this isn't a sign of abysmal average skill, what is?

Which in itself is irrelevant to the overall picture because others can git just as gud. The goal of balance is to give opposing sides equal chances outside of the human factor, because the human factor is what is supposed to decide games. Implying that a 19 point captain is needed too is hilarious. I don't run any AA skills apart from AA range and AFT on almost all my AA ships. Base DPS and thus effect on aircraft remains the same regardless. I pick BFT from time to time if I feel like there are no better choices available or it benefits my primary armament but it's hardly a requirement for AA defense. In T4-5 CVs are practically worthless. It's so easy to dodge auto drops that anyone who is incapable of doing so deserves to take damage. The amount of ships relying purely on concealment is also very low and engagement distances are short out of necessity so spotting has little value. In T6 you face a mass of AA powercreep that you are often simply unable to oppose thanks to glorious mid-tier MM. The combination of deadly AA, low reserves and low squad numbers means that every strike needs to be a resounding success, otherwise you'll find yourself out of the match very quick. T7 is where actual CV play begins. AA is still deadly but you get the reserves and squad numbers to at least be able to take a few risks. It's here though that premium powercreep and balancing problems begin. While Hiryu remains competitive against the Kaga, Saipan is the undisputed Queen of T7 CV play. The less is said about Ranger, the better. And T8+ is the high tier bracket. So yeah, the situation is arguably even worse in low tiers than in high tiers. Clearly your other flank couldn't have guarded against air strikes as well, making the enemy CV totally worthless and reducing the number of potential targets to zero. Nah, the CV is at fault. It's easy to always blame the CV, isn't it? The match can't have been a forgone conclusion thanks to the enemy unicum div, your team being full of potatoes that can't even guard against air strikes or other factors. Nah, CVs are always at fault. Why would you run full AA anyway? On most AA ships just AFT + AA range is more than adequate. Atlanta ofc gets the benefit of more dakka with BFT as well but MAA is thoroughly unnecessary (as it is on many ships). Points are more wisely spent elsewhere.

It did. Until WG nerfed the out of it. Now damage reigns supreme.

This is interesting. Let me run a test right here: retard [edited] retarded Aha, so the singular form is okay, but plural is banned? Stronk programink of glorious forum made only by brightest minds in gulag strikes again!

Eliminating DDs is a top priority. It's just too bad that I can kill all his planes when he has already locked his TBs in.

Then you are simply not being addressed. There are plenty of others here who actually believe there is nothing you can do against CVs which is hilarious at best. As for GZ, you said that equalizing CV players is a good thing. GZ is a pretty good example of why it can end up horribly wrong. Because clearly I'll get a different result when I take out any other AA ship against any other same tier CVs.

I meant generally speaking. If he's a potato, what does that make you? Besides, as already noted he was actually far above average. It's just too bad that I was there to push a button, killing all his planes so that he could never succeed with his strikes against my DDs. So much for "CVs have no counter".