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Apparently not, considering there were plenty of surface vessels that did well on both sides. I mean sure, if you all sail around like headless chickens waiting to be picked off by aircraft then the skill difference between the two CVs was likely the biggest deciding factor. And yet, isn't that only fair? If both teams react equally bad and the CV is tipping the scale, why shouldn't he win? And yet an AA div can easily shut out an enemy CV even if said CV shuts down their own CV completely. I've been in that position many times. To say that CVs are impossible to balance is laughable at best. The problem here is consistency, but that could've been solved fairly easily. Assuming that the Haku was running 3/3/2, DBs constitute only 30 aircraft of Haku's total capacity. 88 plane losses means the Haku was empty as having only 12 planes left isn't even enough to fill a third of the deployed slots (which in 3/3/2 configuration consists of 15 fighters, 12 TBs and 10 DBs). Shouldn't you rather be happy that he fed his DBs to you like that instead of doing something useful with them? I mean, according to your screenshot he got Arsonist. That's kinda hard to do with AP bombs unless he went balls deep with his secondaries.

So a 1 to 3 loss isn't close in your book? Okay then. Surely the fault of CVs and not of WG insisting on "balancing" ships over 5 tiers. I mean, pretty much the same stuff happens when I land in a T6 match with my NC. Although I guess that a predominantly T8 match can still cause a T10 CV with essentially T11 planes 88 losses is something you ignored as well, right? Btw, Midway wasn't running AP bombs? That's rare.

And when the forums needed them most, both @Boris_MNE and @wilkatis_LV disappeared into gulag forever, never to be seen again.

As evidenced by the fact that it only took them a few weeks to patch the citadel bug that had every BBaby whining even harder than usual. WG is far from understaffed. They also have tons of money. There is literally no good reason to postpone fixing the problems with CVs for such a time span UNLESS you're waiting on the extra bureaucracy and porting of the game to another platform. So either they're being dishonest with us about the rework not being specifically tailored for consoles, which shouldn't surprise anyone considering this is hardly the first time WG has lied to our faces, or they're simply incompetent. Or, you know, both.

Not what I was talking about. WG had three years worth of suggestions on how to solve the issues with CVs. And now we get told that CVs get completely thrown on their head due to problems for which we have provided potential solutions in the past. Best example for how little WG cared about CVs: It took them over TWO years to see that USN CVs are getting bodied by IJN CVs, so they finally reworked their loadouts. Result? USN CVs still get bodied by IJN CVs except for the Midway which has become hilariously broken due to AP bombs. If you had left skilled CV players in charge of balancing that we could've had that solved within maybe two weeks. This isn't about hating the CV rework because I'd like to see the RTS gameplay retained, it's about the time and effort WG has invested into CVs prior to taking such a drastic step. And anyone who has been with this game since CBT can see that the time and effort WG has spent on CVs is practically zero. Thus saying "No matter what they tried, it didn't work out" is a joke at best.

That's implying they ever tried. Hint: They didn't.

It's nice to see someone who still has a little faith left in WG. I lost all of mine years ago.

If I ever see you ingame again I'm going to drown you in ordinance for not including Enterprise.

And I guess your stats prove that every class is underpowered? Maybe I'm just particularly talented at playing CVs? Maybe me playing T8 CVs, which have among the worst, if not the worst MM in the game concerning AA, so successfully is just a representation of how garbage average players are? Your argumentation is hilarious. But hey, keep believing you're doing nothing wrong and blame the CVs for everything, Mister "I totally did not camp, but here's a screenshot of me camping".

So precisely what WG is most likely to do, no?

Looks like a decent candidate for free exp CV to me.

We didn't think there'd be any chance of a lot of things happening, yet here we are.

You are not very good with sarcasm, aren't you?

AFT definitely. It provides more cover for your teammates and a CV is unlikely to go for you anyway, so self protection isn't as important.

Or they could go the easy way and retain a part of the RTS interface where you can set waypoints on the minimap instead of having to switch to the overview. That'd probably be too complicated for the average player tho, so the solution I see WG most likely going with is to place the CV off map and have squads fly in from the map border. I wish I was joking.

Enterprise.

I want to play a free, online player vs player team based game with a gentle non-stressful game pace preferably with some historical military theme that I'm interested in. Warships fits the bill for now - when playing all classes, including CVs. Supreme Commander doesn't.

I guess we need to remove cruisers too, then.

On the other hand everyone loves to be the guy who is invulnerable, so placing CVs off map could boost their popularity. As much as I'd hate it, removing the CV from the playing field is the most likely solution I can totally see WG going with. It ticks all the boxes of a typical attempt at glorious balans.

*salt mode engaged* Imps can already appear on the first map. For sake Tanaka, y u do dis? EDIT: Cleared map 1. Used 1 CL / 4 DD, all OASW setup.

DD see smoke. DD torp smoke.

There is no point in playing WoWs at all. If you want to play a casual shooter, you might as well play a good one like Cod4. See how ridiculous your argument is?

Ships are about 2.5 times as big in this game to aid aiming and damage. That means Yugumo in this game is about as long as an Iowa irl.

Well, speculation time! If they're keeping with the EU theme, QE I guess? Or another U-Boat? Also still no Fletcher. I am disappoint.