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I thought you were going to quit the game. What happened to that?

If only this had been in the rework. I could've killed them all. What, you think I'm joking?

Now that the novelty factor has worn off this rework has gone from kinda okay to absolutely catastrophic. There are absolutely no counterplay options to reworked CVs. AA is still completely worthless unless the CV can't WASD, DFAA has no noticeable impact, prioritizing a side is absolutely meaningless, bunching up doesn't do anything and fighters can be easily cheesed by simply summoning your own fighters or abandoning the attacked squad and coming back 30 seconds later. And even further reworked CVs devalue literally everything but themselves in this game. Caps mean nothing anymore because CVs can turn the tide of battle in an instant. Stealth has become meaningless as spotting has become even more oppressive with 2 CVs per side. Having a newcomer on your side against two halfway competent CVs is likewise a death sentence because you will inevitably lose the damage race. Every ship aside from CVs themselves can be easily wiped off of the map regardless of how much the enemy CV is trying to protect them, how much they're bunching up, what class they belong to or what consumables they use. High tier aircraft can technically start attacking and killing ships 30 seconds into the match if spawning positions are favorable. You have solved none of the problems that you listed as reasoning for reworking CVs and created a plethora of completely gamebreaking new ones. Because these issues are inevitably tied to the very fundamentals of the rework (make CVs concentrate on surface targets, manually dodging AA, focus on DoT, etc.) I have no choice but to recommend that you scrap it completely and start anew. I see absolutely no way to make this kind of gameplay viable, either CVs will end up far too strong or far too weak. There is no middle ground to be found here.

Ships with catapult fighters launch them in ridiculous squad sizes. Not sure if intentional but it looks silly as all out to e.g. see a DM launch a 6 plane fighter squad from her catapult.

Can't have that because BB players told everyone it'd be the death of angling if that happens. I wish I was joking.

Fighters can somehow shoot down planes from across the map when abandoning a squad under attack and launching a new one of the same type.

Don't worry guys, DD play is about to die hard. So there is no need to buff BB capability against them.

Yo @Commander_Cornflakes, do you see this ? "I have defeated him while he wasn't even in a CV." A truly amazing feat. Give yourself a cookie for that. /s Also conveniently covering up the score of @Xairen.

Also still no screenshots.

Translation error here: At least I don't think HE bombs/rockets are supposed to be called "arson bombs/rockets".

Dayum, these new stealth bombers are great! I believe this issue has something to do with the CAP consumable when launching a squad immediately after launching your CAP.

Langley is a cruiser killer. Because we clearly needed more stuff that s over cruisers. Low tier CV gameplay is incredibly boring and repetitive as you lack torpedo bombers.

True. I'm still holding on to the railings tho. *sigh*

Honestly I do not believe any change will make average play even more stupid considering what an abysmal low we have already fallen to. Imo it is time to stop balancing this game around the average, aka braindead player and finally assume people actually know what they're doing. Dumb DD players will remain dumb. I'd be surprised if more than 20% even knows such a change took place. Yes, however MrConway stated that this should've been eliminated and is now labeled as a bug. They're already investigating.

This wasn't skillful in any way. Broadsiding was a gamble. You make yourself a bigger, more predictable target hoping for overpens. Penetration damage could still occur via underwater and deck hits. I still regularly get 3-5k salvos on DDs with BB AP shells at range. When there are multiple teammates shooting him that DD is going to die very quickly. I've certainly had no troubles dealing with DDs after this patch. Just keep up with your minimap awareness, fire your first salvo of AP and switch to HE immediately. Overpen damage still hurts a lot unless you misaim or RNGesus says no. And if people don't want to rely on cruisers to defend their mighty BBs, I guess AP bombs are fine too then? It's the same principle after all, why should CVs have to rely on allies to take out AA cruisers? Honestly at this point, why should we care? Braindead BBs are going to use every excuse possible to camp in the back while skilled BBs are going to remain at more effective distances.

Just when I thought this thread can't become any more hilarious.

Nah, just bad targeting. With USN AP DBs you need to attack from along the ship, not across as the reticle looks like this: By the bomb splashes in the video you can clearly see the Enterprise attempting to drop across which is a terrible idea for obvious reasons.

It actually does because having to build your ship to be effective against one of the supposed core mechanics of the game or be eaten alive is hilariously stupid game design. HE is still effective against someone who takes FP, just a little less so compared to firing at someone who doesn't have it. Meanwhile AA builds are all or nothing, you either project a no-fly zone or you're worthless for AA defense. It's not exactly an issue with CVs themselves but it does play a fair part in why they're so dominant.

Actually no it won't. Retreating squads fly at high altitudes and are thus completely undetectable by enemies. Considering you now have a chance to kill whatever is offending you for free, I don't believe this is such a big deal? Especially considering CVs are now gods at self-defense, being able to absolutely demolish whatever is harassing them in short order while practically immune to both fires/flooding AND resistant to most direct damage types. I don't disagree that being able to switch between your squad and your hull is an essential feature to have especially considering how bad auto-pilot can be, but tbh being immune to DoT does temper the issue quite a bit. Even if it is in the worst way possible.

Considering you have yet to admit how bad you are, yes. Says the guy who brought it up in the first place.

24 planes out of 116 is pathetic even when up against an AA div. Because, guess what, you don't need to fight enemy planes over enemy AA. For all we know that's 24 fighters which means the Midway had no impact on @Xairen's play. Also you can get to 500 base exp by just moving. Literally just moving. If it is news for you, you get exp for participating and moving in a match. That means the enemy CV did literally nothing. I know very well what AA divs are capable of and thus I adjust my play accordingly unlike you.

The only thing funny here is how deep in denial you are. Also when adjusted to recent stats you actually do far worse in your Massachusetts than you do overall. That's kinda impressive in a way. You won 12 games out of your 15 in your Asashio B. You won about 77 matches out of your 164 in your Asashio. That gives you an overall winrate of *drumroll* 49,72%. Verdict: You are a potato.

Are you mad that your attempt to lie didn't work out? Again? Wow, so the enemy CV managed to feed all his planes to her teammates. Big deal. Such proof. Much wow.

The screenshot that was removed only showed you feeding a mindboggling 50 planes to a Minotaur with some very impressive MS Paint skills attempting to remove the names. And it was later on proven in that topic that said CV player was and still is in fact much better than you even when only comparing solo stats. Meanwhile I also found an instance of you trying to pass off another much better CV player's stats as your own, which wasn't very smart considering your stats are still publicly accessible and still much worse than what you displayed.

I went through your last few topics and I couldn't find anything. Only claims of how you beat all those CV players better than you, always accompanied with "I forgot to take/can't find the screenshot". On the other hand I found plenty of screenshots of you getting trashed. Including one where you got trashed hard by some Chinese streamer playing on EU with a 100+ ping.