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If you can't git gud enough to earn the top emblem then perhaps you don't deserve it? Just sayin. Not everyone is meant to have everything, not everything is meant to be achievable without hard work.

Yay, even more power creep at the cost of balance. How about no?

I see nothing that disproves my point above. I'm well aware how the grind is supposed to work and be monetized, but it is far too easy to get past it even without monetary investment.

Posted this in the other thread, thought it might interest folks here as well. Doesn't exactly tell you anything new tho if you've been following the discussion.

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ Reworked high tier CVs weekly stats at 2019/06/29 - 50.92% avg WR - 71284 avg dmg - 0.96 kills per match - 5.55 aircraft shot down per match - 12.52 base defense value - 75.33% survival ratio - 56568 spotting damage RTS high tier CVs weekly stats at 2019/01/26 (last snapshot before rework) - 50.13% avg WR - 68771 avg dmg - 1.04 kills per match - 19.23 aircraft shot down per match - 5.64 base defense value - 68.98% survival ratio - 56127 spotting damage So yes, reworked CVs are actually more or equally as powerful at everything but downing aircraft compared to RTS CVs. And downing aircraft only has an effect on CVs so that's a moot point for surface ships. Also reworked CV population is rolling back hard with only about 1.5k players still playing in high and low tiers respectively. This is already in RTS CV territory as well. Conclusion? The rework has been a complete and utter failure across the board.

WG is known to lie when it suits them. Case and point: When the GZ was first released it was the most terrible CV tier for tier. Literally everyone believed it to be unplayable including all expert CV players such as Fara and thought they must have rushed the release just to cash in on the gamescom hype. What did WG respond with? "GZ is final and totally playable. You all are just terrible CV players and should git gud." They only went back on that after severe community backlash. It was also the thing that directly led to iChase getting his CC status removed (although he got it restored apparently? Not exactly following news on him since watching him play is physically painful).

Yeah, except it goes the other way too doesn't it? And deliberately losing is much easier than winning, no? Again, you're rewarding garbage players for being garbage and punishing skilled players for being skilled. You're also under the extremely flawed assumption that a high scoreboard placement equals a higher skill and likewise do you assume that enough skilled players will remain in lower tiers to take up these spots. Newsflash, they won't. As soon as the vast minority of halfway skilled players move on s will automatically be able to move on as well since they're playing against themselves (since every match inevitably has high scoring players no matter how garbage they are). And since s vastly outnumber even halfway skilled players that just means once again that we will eventually just have an endless supply of s cycling in and out of higher tiers. Also anyone who is halfway skilled will reach +1 tiers eventually precisely because they consistently gain tiers (aka win) faster than they lose. It's basic math at that point. Eventually we will just see skilled players deliberately throw matches or go afk just to prevent themselves from hitting that +1 tier border. Congrats, you have once again created a system that changes absolutely nothing aside from making the game experience even more miserable. And frankly only a fool would upset balance massively for "bragging rights". No one gives a about the latter when it severely disadvantages you and certainly no game has ever been designed with such a ludicrously ed mechanic on the basis of "bragging rights".

That's utterly bull and thank god WG didn't share your thinking all those years ago. Again, a 3 tier difference is too big of a power gap to make up for. Have you ever had to play a Furutaka against NCs? Farragut vs Fletchers? Because I have and it is straight up impossible no matter how ed the enemy player is. Your belief that this is some kind of challenge is nothing but wishful thinking and PROVEN so by WG's decision of removing +/-3 MM because it was unfair. And I don't need to believe players are out to sabotage matches, I know they do. Whether they do it intentionally or not is irrelevant. And likewise I know they're not getting punished for it whatsoever. I realize facing facts can be hard but all your illusions about making the game better for everyone will inevitably make it better only for players like yourself.

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E has ~244mm penetration if I remember correctly. Yama/Sushi have 257mm armor minimum (57mm deck + min 200mm citadel deck). Shokaku AP bombs have just enough penetration to break that at high altitude and ofc Haku/GZ with 350mm+ pen have no issues whatsoever.

We do. It was explained in an official post somewhere and I'm too lazy to dig it up. The value was something ludicrously low like 1/10th of exp your teammate gets for damage dealt and is split across multiple ships as soon as the enemy is spotted by them (which typically happens as they open fire).

It took me just 16 matches to get past the Yorck and 39 past the Hipper (no free exp, no skipping modules, no premium). Assuming a earns just half or even 1/3rd the numbers I did that's still a pathetic grind to say the least. If I posted my true thoughts about all the s in this game I would get banned. And after over 3 years of this I don't believe that's unreasonable. Once again you punish skilled players for not being braindead and reward players for being . The direct opposite of what any good MM or economy system should do. And AGAIN there is a reason why WG removed +/-3 MM, because the difference in ships was impossible to claw back with skill and became just straight up unfair. Your refusal to believe that doesn't make it any less true. But somehow I know the reason why you're endorsing such a system without even having to look up evidence for it.

Guess.

@Saiyko. We got extremely lucky with MM tho. Ranger is decent when top tier I suppose but the plane regen and reserves are laughable.

Again the majority of players have never heard about the mythical thing called "teamplay" in their life. They'll probably just go "omg I did so much damage in this match why do I earn so little?" A ranking system is doomed to fail because the playerbase is far too small for that. Same reason why a "class call" system as OP proposes is doomed to fail aside from the dozens of other fundamental flaws. And ofc the idea of punishing players for their skill in another one of OPs proposals is absolutely ridiculous and demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of game mechanics, balance and its history. Neither tbh. It worked well in beta and shortly after release. Primary issue is ofc that players have gotten to comfortable with the system now and are likely unwilling to accept the change. But then again imho the game is better off without players that will quit just because they can't constantly sabotage high tier matches. If you want to only play high tiers in a harsher economy, either git gud or gtfo.

Do you honestly want to find out how badly CVs can destroy teams in a reduced player environment? Because I know. Especially in T8 with almost no cruiser having heal and all AA opposition (barring the one BB) is practically meaningless. And yes, that's after 0.8.5. There is no need to collect data when the results are going to be painfully obvious.

Inherent issue with that is you're just outright preventing the majority of players from advancing in tiers. It's also unintuitive if you use one system at the beginning but switch later on. Likwewise it doesn't prevent existing s from spamming high tier ships (playerbase is stable, as such new players are few). A harsher economy addresses all of these issues without major restructuring or effort as it just makes you grind credits in mid/low tiers if you want to play high tiers and don't have sufficient skill to sustain it.

To end this weird debate about my height, it's ~1,8m.

You earn too much for too little effort. Likewise there are far too many options to make ingame currency even more easy to obtain or lessen the service costs of ships. As such even the worst of the worst can spam high tier ships without consequences, leading to a severe decline in skill especially considering progression is also way too fast. Consequently the quality of the high tier matches is abysmal and WG loses one of the ways they originally wished to monetize the game with.

You pay service cost every time regardless of whether you take damage or not. Was changed ages ago so that camping s don't camp in the back trying to save money. Didn't work ofc because even now barely anyone knows this.

PSA: Commands requiring more than 2 key inputs are sometimes no longer recognized by the game when piloting aircraft. (E.g. pressing A + D to turn and wanting to press Y to heal will not allow you to trigger heal. This includes attack commands.) This UI just becomes more and more pathetic with each patch. Even the ing RTS UI could do that.

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Instead of tampering with HP how about just rolling back the plane speed nerf?