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Both are very viable and powerful ships. The IFHE change doesn't really affect Worcester all that much, she will lose bow and aft armor which will make her more vulnerable to some heavy cruiser AP but she doesn't really like to be shot at to begin with. So it should come down to your own personal enjoyment. Do you like Buffalo or Cleve better? That should be the driving force behind your decision.

Wanna know something funny? According to available statistics the rework has had many WG employees LEAVE the CV class completely. Another good chunk has tried to play reworked CVs and abandoned them after a few matches. So even among WG employees the rework seems to be quite unpopular.

The five tier issue would still exist, so not really. All you'd have is a smoother power progression for CVs themselves (if even that), but I don't believe a T7 CV thrown into T9 matches will fare all that much better. You'd also have to deal with population issues (the only reason why CVs are still encountered more often than before is because they've been concentrated into fewer tiers) and a rather boring grind as there are too few ways to vary and extend CV play when moving from one tier to another. I mean, would you really be excited at the prospect of playing essentially the same ship again only with slightly more HP on the planes?

Well, this looks different.

- pasta AA - no DFAA - "characterized as a flanking ship"

Not surprising considering CVs have reached pre-rework levels of population. I usually have to queue for several minutes to find a T10 match nowadays.

I once deliberately let an Asashio into my spotting range while running away because I couldn't be bothered to find him. Worked like a charm, after dodging all torps with some basic application of auto pilot he opened fire, at which point he was doomed.

Which is hard to figure out... how exactly? If you see one AA cruiser spawn on one side of the map, how difficult is itnto discern that the others are on the other side? Besides, even if you fly around like a clueless turning and running is still an option. If you're not a you could just, you know, use some basic map awareness and fly in at an angle instead of straight up charging into enemy spawn so you can get out with all planes intact. It. Is. Not. That. Hard. The issue you describe is entirely your own fault.

We've had a similar issue for quite a while. Makes for some fun shenanigans when trying to create divs.

Yo @Saiyko, someone finally noticed.

Mrw I read that new AL event will contain enemy subs:

While your analysis is ofc correct do remember that AA is kinda inconsequential until you hit high tier AA ship levels. Also keep in mind the hit probability modifier and not only base DPS. I've had little issues with RU BBs across the board until ofc Kremlin. So while RU BBs generally have comparatively decent AA, that's only because AA in general is kinda pathetic until high tiers and won't win them any prizes when it comes to defending against an air strike. Good point actually.

I'm not ashamed to admit I'm regularly chatbanned by both complaints and support. Although the complaints part usually happens regardless of whether I say something in chat or not. Sure wonder why.

Soviet BB AA is actually pretty pathetic until Kremlin which for SOME COMPLETELY UNKNOWN reason gets the best AA in the game. E.g. Sovetsky Soyuz actually has far less base AA than a Cleve. And well, they're about to release French DDs which are a laughing stock when under air attack. In addition to that these "exploits" were actually introduced as solutions to some pretty immense issues with fundamental rework mechanics. As such they literally can't be removed without compromising part of the rework. Any reasonable developer would think that solving a problem with a different problem is untenable and the mechanic itself should be scrapped. But as we all know WG is anything but reasonable.

Leave a fighter, engage other targets. DD is stuck with no options until fighter is dealt with. After fighter dies check up on the smoke. If the DD hasn't left he's staying in there and most likely useless. If he shoots target the tracers. If he has left he now has a squad on his tail with no more smoke. Win-win. Also considering an attack can occur within the first 2 minutes of the match that's a guaranteed smoke wasted and on cd in the opening stages of a match. Something like this can easily get a DD killed. Cruiser AA is only effective within mid-range. Extremely few DDs can operate that far back which inherently makes them worthless. A few TBs can still effectively cross drop. That's not dodgeable as @SexyCroat had to find out some time ago in his target barge I mean, AA DD. Bombs are inherently RNG even if there are ways to increase hit chance. As such attempting to dodge or not, you can still get hit. Majority of rockets cannot be effectively evaded due to vertical spread pattern. Angle in or out and you receive hits due to the vertical spread, try to broadside and you get hit due to attack angle. And then there's Enterprise which just doesn't give a . There are no ways to minimize damage from such an attack. This is completely untrue. Slight mouse adjustments which do not affect accuracy are enough for any kind of course adjustment a DD makes in the short time it'll be unspotted if you just predict the course slightly. And if they turn while still spotted the element of surprise is lost regardless, meaning the CV can easily adjust in time. Also concealment can just be cheesed via fighter if necessary. Also prevents AA from hitting the squad in question, meaning all the CV needs to do is fly over the island then immediately reengage. An island represents a reset of the engagement and nothing more. And very few DDs can make use of island cover, meaning that even if there is sufficient AA to block you on the other side, you've effectively rendered that DD worthless. Counterplay options to CVs only exist if they don't know what they're doing.

Basically someone reported you to support, support found whatever remarks of yours were offensive enough to hand you a chat ban and [SPECULATION ON MY PART] now the system automatically checks for bad words you type in chat and gives you a 3 day ban if you do.

A chatban by player reports only last 1 day. The message will say something like "banned by complaints". A chatban enforced by "support" (I'm very sure that this is automated) lasts 3. Message here is along the lines of "banned because of harassment, bypassing word filter (there is a word filter in this game?), or sth else". By that you can discern what exactly you've been handed.

Which would mean you have to be dumb enough to hit 3 different AA ships or not recognize that you're attacking a blob. Long range AA of both Worcester and Mino is fairly weak, if you can't turn and run you've done something terribly wrong. Sure, you'll lose 1-2 planes but it's better than getting your whole squad wiped. Kremlin you can spot outside of AA range. While this is true, it also has something to do with how the fundamental CV mechanics work. As CVs are designed purely as damage dealers and nothing else, they have to deal damage or they become worthless one way or another. Thus if a bottom tier CV cannot attack a top tier AA ship, that is "broken" from a CV perspective despite it being a completely fair situation. Hence why the CV rework concept was doomed to fail from the very beginning. Saipan has the longest plane regen and small squadrons. She can't take many casualties which are inevitable when getting severely up tiered. As such she suffers hard. She has some decent alpha strike though. GZ has fast planes but terrible regen (not as bad as Saipan but still bad), flimsy planes and small reserves. What applies to Saipan applies to her but her DBs are meme worthy in how inconsistent they are so they're not exactly effective, depriving GZ of one plane type. Arguably GZ is the worst premium T8 and as such the worst when up tiered. Enterprise is the single most powerful CV in the game, capable of outperforming every single T10 CV. Equipped with extremely fast plane regen on her RFs, which are the best DD hunters in the game, and TBs, which are perhaps the most versatile and among the most damaging ones in the game, along with AP bombs as an outright hard counter to every single AA ship and more (a single attack with her AP DBs can theoretically erase 1/3rd of the HP of a Kremlin, think about that for a second), her kit grants her unrivaled potential power. As a T10 CV in disguse she not only up tiers well, she dominates T10 matches assuming sufficient skill. If you know how to play CVs well this is the ultimate p2w ship.

That won't matter to me. Because I'm still one of those 1 in 10 CVs.

Report your own post (don't worry, it's perfectly safe. You won't get sanctioned or anything). Mods will take care of the rest hopefully.

Which ofc is purely objective as you have proven already. /s

MN DDs have one glaring weakness that imo makes the entire line completely obsolete. Or to sum it up: *laughs in Enterprise*

You do realize you can justify all pointless whine with this, right?

Really? Well, I suppose when you believe they have a point they appear to be so. In reality CVs and moan about pretty much everything. First it was condescendingly telling everyone to "lol just adapt", "git gud", "just dodge", "CVs are perfectly fine", "I can play surface ships just fine against CVs" etc. Then when CV players are forced to do the very same thing they previously preached it's all "OMG AA IS OP", "MY CV NOW USELESS", "ROLLBACK NERF OR I LEAVE" and all the typical whine you'd previously see from BBabies. So no, CV players are not better. They have easily become the most whiny s on this forum. Every single patch brings out another burst of whine and tears about how CVs are unplayable. And sometimes they have a point about unnecessary or laughable adjustments, most of the time however they're just whining about how their class isn't easymode unicum anymore.

Again, as if CV players were any better in this regard.