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fnord_disc

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    What we know about Ships: Updated 05/04/2017

    I didn't say it was mandatory. I said it's roughly an inverted parabola. Higher shell weight moves the parabola along the x-axis and stretches it somewhat, so this comparison doesn't really mean anything. A heavier shell needs more propellant for similar acceleration characteristics because of energy conservation. It actually isn't correct to say that because at some point more length will slow down the shell again through friction with the barrel. Like I said... it's a parabola. There is an optimal barrel length for a given shell weight/propellant. I didn't say it was guaranteed. I said that I assumed the L/56 gun would have used the same shell and charge as the L/60, as I said here: "Apparently" because no new shell design can be found. This is clearly wasteful and pointless and the French must have had a very good reason for this propellant charge. For comparison, the Japanese propellant for their L50 is 33.80kg @ 840 m/s. You can clearly see what I predicted: the larger propellant does practically nothing.
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    What we know about Ships: Updated 05/04/2017

    A longer barrel allows higher muzzle velocity in combination with the propellant. Every propellant has a muzzle velocity over barrel length curve that looks roughly like an inverted parabola with a maximum velocity somewhere at barrel length xyz. The only reason an L/56 barrel would have given the triple guns better performance than an L/60 barrel would have been if both lengths had used a smaller propellant than the Hipper with L/60 and its own, large propellant. There is actually a very good reason for a shorter barrel: weight. Cruisers are not that large. A longer barrel is heavier already, but it also requires heavier and sturdier electromechanical machinery to move the guns and the turrets. For example, the Hipper 2x20.3 L/60 weighed around 250 tons per turret. The Japanese 2x20.3 L/50 weighed 170 tons. That's a whole third less. The American triple 20.3 L/55 weighed between 250 tons and 300 tons, depending on model. Not significantly more than the German double turret. This kind of tradeoff was almost never done because it wastes potential energy; it's basically throwing energy away that could have been harnessed for muzzle velocity if the barrel had been only slightly longer. It is often done with firearms to standardize ammunition even if it's wasteful. Likewise, using a heavier propellant slows firing (hoists, crew routine) so it was usually attempted to use the optimal propellant for a given barrel. I think this explanation is unlikely.
  3. The title says it all. I can't decide what to use my large amount of free XP on. What do you use your free XP for?
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    What we know about Ships: Updated 05/04/2017

    L/56 would definitely be poorer because shorter barrel length translates to less muzzle velocity and thus less penetration and higher arcs. The guns use the same shells apparently. Also, Zao is a funny case. Some Japanese military magazine straight-up invented the design as part of some hypothetical representation. The 12x20.3 layout and the placement of the torpedo tubes is historical, but there are no blueprints and the Zao we have is what some Japanese guy invented in the 1970s.
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    What we know about Ships: Updated 05/04/2017

    Thanks! Looks like WG used a fictionalized variant though, because these are L/56 and the game's guns are L/60. Guess L/56 would have been underpowered. But that's still pretty cool.
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    HOW TO WIN IN THIS GAME !?

    27 games is low so having a low win % with so few games is not unlikely. You don't seem to be that bad for someone new from the damage stats so just keep playing and it'll go up.
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    Some interesting info around the world

    Not off the top of my head, but the date is there in the results screen (2nd of November '15). This was part of my Kberg grind so I'm assuming it was the first patch that had German cruisers.
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    Some interesting info around the world

    Solomon Islands against lots of T4s giving broadside. Also torped a bunch of BBs... Was solo though. Lemme look for a replay. Here are the results while I scrounge it up. edit: Okay here it is, but it crashes on my machine. Maybe you have better luck. Replay
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    Some interesting info around the world

    I have a 172k game in Königsberg... :3
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    Some interesting info around the world

    I haven't played the Soviet cruisers, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I have trouble considering them overpowered based on the stats. In my opinion detection is the single most important stat in the game because it influences everything you can do so drastically and fundamentally. Even if the Soviet cruisers had actual railguns, they would be difficult to use with such high detection ranges.
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    What we know about Ships: Updated 05/04/2017

    Having several similar calibers makes fire control more complicated, but not impossible or inherently worse. There are numerous tricks you can use to still direct fire effectively, the simplest of which using colored shells. Colored shells were common anyway in larger squadrons where you had trouble telling apart whose splashes were whose.
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    Is the matchmaker dead?

    Matchmaker committed Sudoku because people criticized it too much. Got depressed. As I post this, I'm up to 3:00 and 500 cruisers.
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    Is the matchmaker dead?

    Probably because it makes it easier to balance. The matchmaker had a lot of problems in closed beta finding decently fair matchups when we were only a couple of hundred players at the best of times. I wouldn't read too much into it, especially in WoWs where the tiers don't really matter that much.
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    Any news on IJN Tone ?

    The Chinese server is a little special... in many ways... But thanks. The threshold for overpenetration is much lower and increasing the armor has basically only positive effect for cruisers above 100mm - and it makes a big difference against cruisers. Also those are very good firing angles at ~30° fore and aft, so this is serious citadel protection against cruisers. Basically, that's all that we can take away from this, because Europe might get a completely different Tone from CN. edit: Also, I think it's funny that some Chinese guy is apparently completely fine playing with the rising sun mod. Thanks for nothing, WG.
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    Some interesting info around the world

    So what happened to Tone.
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    What we know about Ships: Updated 05/04/2017

    They are. The design is plausible. But is it real?
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    What we know about Ships: Updated 05/04/2017

    To the best of my knowledge the turrets are fiction. But if you say they're real... I'll believe you, but a source would be nice.
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    Hype please?

    Looks like you're correct. It seems to follow the narrowing hull towards the guns, so next to the magazines it's slightly sloped.
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    Some interesting info around the world

    Yeah, I don't understand why they would nerf Japanese DDs. They're not too strong.
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    WoWs is rigged

    Actually, I just remembered that the Platinum Membership was only offered to Alpha and Beta Testers. Did you know supertesters can pick the games they want to play in from a list?
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    WoWs is rigged

    I don't know what you're complaing about. If you pay for the Platinum Membership, you don't get those bad games. It's only the free accounts / regular premium accounts. I'm fine tbh.
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    In World War II,Where is 60+section torpedo?WG

    This is a common misconception and usually not true. It only applies to the largest container ships. The confusion usually is because tonnage is not displacement. Warships are measured in displacement and container ships in tonnage and these are not the same. Maersks Triple-E class container ships, 400 meters long and 165,000 deadweight tonnage, only displace 55,000 empty, the same as Iowa. And these are already the largest container ships in the world. The vast majority of container ships is much smaller in displacement than a battleship, mostly because the heavy battleship armor adds a large amount of weight.
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