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Nagato / Amagi Izumo Colorado Wyoming Ishizuchi Yamato Nikolai I Kirov Molotov / Dmitri Donskoi New Mexico

Scharnhorst Kaiser / König Bayern Warspite Gneisenau / Bismarck / Tirpitz Iowa / Montana Friedrich Der Große / Großer Kurfürst 406mm Friedrich Der Große / Großer Kurfürst 420mm Hipper / Roon / Hindenburg / Prinz Eugen Baltimore / Des Moines

I predicted these penetration values about a month ago. It feels p. nice to be right.

Okay boys, WG was kind enough to publish Scharnhorst's penetration. It is extremely close to the predicted values. I posted this curve a bunch of times already before the penetration data was out, so I can even prove I'm not manipulating the formula to suit my data. For all practical considerations this means that the penetration formula is solved. My question is now this: Is there interest in me making a topic and just generating these curves for all sorts of ship on request so that people can look at how their guns perform?

It was a good season with a good bracket in my opinion. The tier 8 bracket produces too much bow-in nonsense.

I struggle with Hipper too. It's too dependant on the enemy being bad and I can't really deal with ships like that.

This penetration data is extremely implausible for NMs 14"/50. Please check whether you copy pasted correctly.

No, the differences should be way larger than they are now. We can all play this game in ten different tiers of Hermelins otherwise. If they can't make very different ship designs work, they shouldn't make them.

I don't think we will ever see balanced, fun, and engaging carrier gameplay. It will always be only 1-2 of those 3. At least that's the opinion I've arrived at by now. I used to think carriers can be made to work without many issues, but I no longer feel that way.

Mixed bag. Leander poor, only 10° or so ahead, Fiji a little more, Edinburgh good (like a German one), Neptune poor, Minotaur good. Just look at the pictures and try to swivel the tubes in your head.

Yes. No amount of muzzle velocity hides the fact that 6" shells are very light, and British guns don't even have high MV like the Russian ones. So yes. HE spammers, destroyer killers.

Imo Britain had the second-best surface torpedoes in WW2, beaten only by the Japanese (however, beaten by a fair margin). So I would hope that you will be able to see that in the game, and the British torpedoes on the cruisers are quite good.

The British 15" Mk I is generally well-regarded by historians for its barrel life, accuracy, and general lack of glaring problems. But it is true that the penetration wasn't the greatest. Most formulas estimate the guns to perform only marginally superior to the Japanese 14"/45 or the high-velocity German 11". As with all formulas, take that with a grain of salt.

British cruiser torpedoes are the Mark 9, which is slightly more powerful and longer-ranged than Blyskawica's Mark 10. So expect stats looking roughly like this: Range 8-10km Speed 55-60kn Damage ~15k Unless they use one of the extremely short distance settings.

Except it isn't that ship at all. It's a paper design.

The only problem with the tier spread right now is that T7 totally lords over the T5s it meets all the time.

Okay, and with the low shell weight that means NASA arcs. Maybe they have really good concealment and handling and you play them as a DD killer. We'll see.

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Oh, it's the autoloaders. Right. I forgot we even had a discussion about the Z4A design. Makes sense. Anyway, the British 6"/50 has 840m/s, which I guess isn't that horrible, but it won't be that easy to make these ships work imo.

TX Minotaur is paper: Game Minotaur has flush deck Game Minotaur has what looks like three frontal turrets TIX Neptune is paper: Game Neptune has flush deck until almost to the stern, real one only to about midships Game Neptune has two funnels Neptune looks like the proposed 1940 CA with 3x2 guns of whatever caliber, Minotaur is I don't even.

There are a lot of people who claim that this change to the arcs occured, and I also feel like the arcs changed. But I read that thread a while ago and all the evidence given by LMW and I think it's hard to refute. Even though it disagrees with my personal memory, the arcs probably never changed.

I don't think the arcs would change either. They are tied to the gun's historical parameters right now + how the game treats all shells based on that information. If theres a fire mode for historical Cleve with higher velocity, then sure.

To the low of skill, a difficult ship is weak.

Also, ich spiele WoWs auf einem alten Laptop (2011) mit 1 GB Grafikkarte (520M GT) und habe keine Probleme auf Niedrig. Auf höheren Stufen ruckelt es dann, aber abstürzen tut es nie. Das legt mir nahe, dass das Problem bei deinem Rechner liegt.

The concealment module helps with staying alive, but in general I agree that it's hard to make T8 cruisers work inside their tier.