LongJohn_
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At least it should shift air control abd therefore maybe WR statistics from IJN to USN but I still think avg dmg is going to come down. TB+2DBs only. Unless those DB AP are insane.
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So it hits live tomorrow. I think you should try CVs. Lower tiers, that you use for practice anyway, arent going to change that much and IJN tree is not going to change at all. But sure there can be a little rush on CVs for some time.
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I agree. Essex is maybe getting a bit more versatile with 2-1-2 loadout but damage potential is going down. So enjoy it while it lasts. I attend to do right that and then just shift to Midway.
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Oh, what is your record for one straight strafe? I think that 26 today is my tops. Hit right on. Shame his fighters fly towards so only 4(?) of them. All attack planes (3x4 TB, 2x5 DB) dropped.
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There you go. First decent Essex game today. Boy that one strafe hurt. Taiho got all attack planes in one cluster, turned them away and got a perfect strafe from behind. 26 planes down. Actually pretty rare one. Top of the scoreboard with CV.
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This is useful. I've witnessed some counter exit strafes in my games and it truely is handy. So the first squad leaving the dogfight loses one plane from exiting but if you follow it with your squad you dont even lose planes?
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I guess those are my options. And even the loadout rework doesnt help Essex that much. Sure 2-1-2 is more viable than present stock 2-1-1 but still worse than IJN 2-2-2 which also Midway is going to receive. And since I have Midway researched why not.... IJN is going to stay the same in the rework, only change in Shokaku gameplay is going to be single 1-1-2(?) loadout to Lexington and that is not going to change that much Shoka gameplay. T8 is also swarming with premiums (and hence walletwarriors). Shokaku balanced loadout is also very good practice to Midway - both shall share 2-2-2 loadout and that way same keyboard commands which comes in handy. I dont think I even want to go Midway before the change or even short aftet it since top tiers are going to swarm Midways for a while.
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Well. It seems I took that AS business (too) seriously so I run through some tutorials with pretty advanced stuff. Basic principal was that you dont try to win fighter battle if you are outnumbered but play smart in other areas. I think I have to implement these things in practice. Allthough 1-1-3 Essex is very heavily outnumbered against 3-0-2 Essex. Also thought few other things. These tutorials also stated the "holy trinity" in CV gameplay and I think I have to change my overall gamestyle to become overally better. I do love smashing and sinking stuff and there for example 1-1-3 strike Essex shines but like stated in many cases loadout isnt balanced and present Essex doesnt even have balanced loadout. Strike is heavily invested into smashing leaving aircontrol and recon into lower level. I do see this in my gameplay. I cant help my teams DDs contesting caps right at the start since I cant gain airsuperiority in cap airspace using only one fighter squad. This automatically leads losing caps and cappoints right at the start. In some cases these early points are worth gold later in the game. So basically two options. First loadup 2-1-1 stock loadout to my Essex and rush forward. Use 1-1 attackplanes to attack separated ships mid-late states of the battle and mainly concentrate to maintain strict aircontrol and spot for the team. Second, perhaps little longer run but also bolder option, is to sell my Essex, get Shokaku back and start thing with a totally fresh boat. Shoka has rather painful stock grind but I think I could manage it. 2-2-2 loadout hasnt been my favourite but I have to learn it at least for the future Midway... This option doesnt even crap my Essex stats. Allthough I dont care that much about them anyway. Or maybe option C that I havent even thought? Get Independence or Ranger with AS loadout and strafe the s#it out of everything?
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What I've seen from AP bombs they seem to be very situational and/or inconsisted. KM BBs shake with those but with any other nation BBs effect is much smaller. And you dont do well against cruisers and DDs with them. I have to experiment them myself and decide which ones to use. T9-10 Essex and Midway bombers also get option of 1000lbs HE bombs or actually Lexington gets them at T8. And they also hurt like heck, you can drop them on any target and you also get good firechance to do damage over time with TBs. AP bombs are alpha only. Actually I expect tears of blood from high tier DDs as well. Midway gets 2-2-2 loadout as sole option. T8 TBs but with tight torpedo spread and option to crosstorp is deadly combination. At the same time you get air superiority with 2x7 fighters and then HE/AP option to DBs. Have you tried or thought what 2x6 T8 TBs do to a T8 BB? With careful drop you hit 10-12 of them...
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I think AP bombs are pretty inconsistent. KM BBs are your primary targets. I have no idea why... I think PT Essex/Midway AP bombs are more powerful than AP bombs at T8 Enterprice. It should be intresting. When the 6.14 is scheduled to hit live servers?
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Well I think my thought on CV sniping are pretty similar than yours. I havent spend that much thought not to mention gametime to even experiment it that much and most attempts have been by half accident (going for strike, spot CV and change target). Then next question: How do you counter AS CVs? Bad players are easy. You can run their fighters around the map wasting their time, draw them into friendly AA or use your CV AA. But what about the decent or good ones that from some reason still play AS? How do you counter that?
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What do you think about CV snipes? I mean sending full attack on enemy CV and try to kill it off. In which cases do you try it? I am a poor CV sniper. Havent even tried it that many times and (hence) dont have that good experiences from it. I know it takes time that might not be worth it, you might lose all your strikeplanes at once and you have to pull it off 100% (sink enemy CV) to make any effect on the game. I just started wondering this because of all those AS loadouts out there. In proper hands they kill your planes for breakfast and you dont get much done in the actual "frontline". So after you notice their loadout would it be viable tactic to kill them off? Basically two reasons: They deserve it for their loadout and secondly you really dont have anything else to reasonably strike... Naturally at higher tiers you need DoT to do it since with Def AA propably on you dont cause enough alpha with one strike. I've countered such strikes many times. So basically TB+DB first hit and then 2DB followup or TB+2DB initial and DB followup...
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I checked the stats for him. Impressive. ~74% WR with CVs in over 2400 games. Even if raw damage numbers werent superb PR and WR are so this player surely makes the right moves. But sure. Even 74%/2700 WR/PR superunicum cant win them all. Its still "only" 74% so even them lose about 1/4 of their games. In some cases its just not even possible to win if rest of the team sucks hard enough. And sure, even unicums screw things up time to time. Stay too close to front, get spotted and nuked by enemy team etc. And also some of the "unbelievable" players (from stats) are just veterans flattening out a second account. I've seen CV players way way above 3000 (3300-3600) PRs and I dont think its even possible with all the learning process at lower tiers. But surely they are also good. I've seen some incredible stunts from them. You strafe out of dogfight and enemy fighters strafe to same direction from the same dogfight and demolish your fighters... For example. I know this might sound strange but I'd like to see some "not so great" gameplay from our unicum Youtubers. Strangers, Flamu, iChase... I believe they "potato" it sometimes too and it would be great and encouraging to see even them blunder things time to time. After all we are all only humans.
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I am not afraid or even been. Played few intense games with him. Of cource there are lot of good CV players out there, others just have more PR (Public Relations) value and name than others. If you see "strangers123" or "Flamu" in enemy CV you pretty much know what to expect but I am sure there are plenty of better CV players out there that outplay them and dont have high profile name in internet.
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God dammit. I am so close to stop playing Essex until the next patch or straight away sell it and go for Midway. Four battles this morning. One of them was decent with close encounters with enemy CV which ended up sinking both but overall 135k and victory. But the game before that. Sweeeeeeeet MM with few T7 BBs, too many DDs like usual these days (some mission?!) and enemy Essex with ok average overall CV stats. Then I checked his Essex stats. 50k damage, +33 planes in each game. Sweetest possible MM and some players start crying right at start how T7 BBs get overrun with T9 CVs. My azz! Full AS loadout Essex, spreaded planes across the map, knows how to strafe. Totally useless. Enemy team roflstomped game fast, I sunk myself to save time. Enemy CV last in their list, me second last. What a superb battle such MM. Boy this frustration. Chatted to that Essex player and he said prefers this setup so he can assist his team the best. Sure you can spot but you are just as good your team is since you cant do much yourself. So you win or lose with the team. No solo warriors there. PR around 800 or so, maybe 50-60 games played so propably went straight away to AS loadout. Vaya con dios with that. Ugh!
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Could this actually explain why some IJN CVs have better WR than their USN counterparts? In many games the team with most DDs in the end wins. DDs spot, cap, evade... And IJN CVs definitely are better hunting down DDs. I think Aerroon made some CV videos about it some time ago...
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Sure, I understand. I just mentioned those things. Let me know after you meet Blogis in his Saipan and let me know how it goes. And I bet he has got better after my games with him.
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I actually like playing against good or even excellent players. They have correct loadouts and normally focus on their own gameplay instead of playing 0-0. Allthough I have to admit I met one superunicum few days ago and he was plain rude. I dont know why. Calling names, making rude remarks on others gameplay... I try to be kind to everybody. Say gl all to both teams at the start and actually might even apologise from someone if I just mess them up real bad. Like one North Carolina other day. Just fixed fire and I struck TBs in cyclone. Dude flooded max time. Didnt sink but game was surely ruined. So even while you are superb compared to others - why be rude? I guess being rude and rage about would be normal for those poorer players. What is the reason to rule the game and still be rude to others? About the stats. Here are the bottom of the bottom in Wows Numbers. I deleted player names since I dont want to advert their nicks. Few <100 PR at the previous page as well. And those are all players that have played more than 30 games with the ship.
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Yep. I've seen two digit PRs T8-9 - under 100. I cant understand how do you do that. Can such "success" be enjoyable at any level, even for a kid? And have you ever thought how much headbanging it takes to get into T9 with that skill level? It took me little over 180 games with Lex to grind the Essex and just a few games more (hence better success) with Essex to grind off Midway. I've seen Essex players with two digit personal ratings at +900 games... Moment of silence. Think about it. Really.
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Yep but I refered to totally abysmal gaming experience to weed them off.
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Both looked like point-click types. Lots of dogfights. Better for me, Myoko AA cant handle Essex strikes. I think those fixed loadouts start to remove those nobs out of the game or at least from top tiers. You cant overmatch skilled player with point and click if you have same number of fighter squads. Its strafe in - strafe out and pretty soon their stats are so poor and all fun gone that they realise they are in the wrong league.
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You definitely have a point there. This is why I've been considering to run 2-1-1 loadout on Essex. More control, more spotting, less brute force. How personal rating and "how good you are" stats are defined? Planekills, WR, damage, kills, spotting damage? Which is most important? Mostly played Bis and Myoko today but witnessed something Ididnt expect to see: Two AS Essexs banging heads in T9 match. Simply breathtaking.
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Well.. watched that video too. I personally dont think he did anything that any other good CV player couldnt do. Basically these exceptional results are result from multiple different factors and players actions is only one of them. Overall I tend to think at least some of my games later on but havent actually started analyzing actual replays. I guess you could improve your gameplay like that. But overall its very easy to be smart after the battle. Especially with CVs while we all know how chaotic actual gameplay is. You could always do something differently, spot something, strafe something, strike in different order etc. And maybe that would do some good to final results - or maybe not.
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Yep. Saipan is the all-manual option. Propably doesnt work that ell with autodrops and point/click.
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More and more. One Taiho seen so far, just got the ship today and flying 3-2-2 jacks*it loadout. Same with this. 60 games done and AS as h*ll. So what do you do after getting CV? Free XP to nearest AS loadout? Edit: And just to add the insult: That is sorted to damage done. So this players Essex is 21st most damage done ship. Incredible.