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You guys are making it seem like there's no AA, no rudder shifting, no angle adjustments...etc.. I personally have been hit by 4 torps max from a USN TB only once over the course of 100 games in CV. And that was when I was lightning a joint and not paying attention to the screen. Otherwise, it's fairly impossible to get hit by much bigger load, since the minimap is my primary screen and when I spot TB coming I turn away from them as I'm running CV on full speed and with -20% shift rudder time upgrade, and slow down only when the planes are landing if I'm not under attack, then the time the TBs have to catch up with me and get into a position from the side is greater and my AA usually manages to shoot down most of the planes, resulting in having to face only few torpedoes on wide spreads most of the time. As for noobs, I understand they make many mistakes and its easier to take them down, but I don't consider noob gameplay relevant in trying to figure out my strategy. I always consider the enemy to be very skilled by default, and only if proven otherwise during the course of battle I adjust my strategy accordingly.

Let me enlighten You, about your misconception of equality and sameness. While all beings are equal, they're not the same. Equality is about your freedom going as far as the freedom of another person and it relates to the plane of existence as such, not the artificial construct of society, its laws and moral codes within which we function. We often forget the equality while imposing the sameness onto others.

Some adults do not become psychologically mature ever. The thin ice is eternal and spans across all age categories. There's no cookie cutter to 7 billion individual cases. It's an exercise in futility to try to find one.

Sorry about that, I'm quite good at derailing stuff. Apologies to those that care about any other race division than that of humans and want to seriously discuss more subtle categorization.

I understand such experience adds to one's bias and I'm not holding it against you,.. as I said, you felt the need (in your perspective) to report me, that is absolutely OK with me, because I accept your life's experiences are such that they give you the perspective from which you do not see any other option as viable. But I still think, as you could have witnessed throughout this thread, and also believe that the best prevention is open and full education and discussion not denial. Instead of saying "this is bad, you must not do it" we should explain what it does and under what conditions in relation to the strength the given substance has. We'd fare much better if we could openly talk about these things, go to a doctor and tell him that you wanna try some drug to get an experience with and he would do all the necessary checkups to confirm you're OK to take it, dose it for you properly, or even watch over you while you undergo your experience and after all is said and done and you're back, you go on with your life. Much better than scaring others, since they're only gonna get secretive because they wanna get the experience anyway, and as they figure out soon that most people are against drugs they will have hard time discussing it with anyone (thank God for the internet at least), which leads to situations like overdosing. Fear of being caught, fear of being punished, fear of being ridiculed... fear fear fear...how about we switch to trust instead. So I trust the kids might get to read this line as well - please, educate yourself as much as you can about anything you wanna experience in life before jumping in on it. I trust you are wise enough to do that.

But then again, anything in life (anything in sober state) has a potential to make you either a better or worse person. It only depends on how you at any moment relate to that thing you have come in contact with. Every single thing can be considered a stimuli...and then it only matters what is its degree and proportion towards your physiological and psychological system. Your dilemma is unsolvable. It's like standing on the side of a road and wondering whether to cross it or not, because there are cars going both ways and any of them has a potential to kill you if you miscalculate your crossing. Just as soldiers pick up guns and know full well that when the duty calls they might get shot and die. I pick up drugs and know full well that when I mishandle them I might overdose and die. Pick your fate and be at peace with it.

If it's my fate to get reported and banned from forums because widespread ignorance, so be it. But in my world, I'm not *promoting* illegal drugs... I'm *sharing* my personal experience... pulling away the veil of ignorance that the world imposes on these substances by classifying them as illegal (which is a ridiculous adjective to use - since all humans are equal - no one man has any right to rule or order a life of any other human being, hence it's impossible to forbid a conscious person from living the life the way they want)....and if you wish to call those substances drugs then be it. But don't forget they are about the kind of substances you get prescribed by your doctor... everyone drug you can overdose with, 'cept maybe weed, it's all a question of degrees and proportions. But whatever, don't forget to fear-monger the kids about how these substances are dangerous. Just don't play ignorant fool and also tell them about the dangers of other freely available substances like coffee, nicotine, alcohol, and chemical supplements used to fake many food products. Also, tell them about natural tendency of people to be ignorant and stupid, those are mass murderers too. Keep fighting your fight for the better world by denying knowledge to it. You puny troll.

Define actual world... what is it? What are you? Bones, flesh and blood? Or a specific order of atoms ? Or is it all just one huge vibratory field of various wavelengths and frequencies bumping into each other hence experiencing each other through their sensory channels ?

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What's worrying ? That I have become more loving, compassionate, understanding towards others and open minded about everything than I have ever been before? It certainly is worrying to anyone who wishes to oppress and enslave people. People who lust for control hate free thinkers and free spirits... I don't want to drop heavy topics like Hermeticism in here, because I assume it's too much for most of the community that comes here to discuss a naval game of pixel fun, but if you wanna get some interesting and mind-boggling perceptions into your life then read a bit of its teachings.

Are you saying that the chemical reactions that are happening in your body during the sober state are in some way more relevant than those that happen in you under the influence? How do you know what you perceive sober is really real...and not an illusion? If I see a wall melting, maybe the wall is not melting in reality (that we all know), but my experience of seeing it melt is real nonetheless. And it will be added to my subconscious and from there on influence my perception of the world I have around me with the fact that perhaps "there's more than meets the eye". And maybe it wasn't the wall I saw melt, but some different plane of vibration ever flowing and in my limited understanding I could not have done anything better, but to associate this flow with the wall. Apropos, heat or cold can go through a wall, you cannot. What is the wall to the heat or cold then that it can go through it, it MUST be something else than it is to you. Than how can you ever be sure that what things are to you is what things really are? There's a danger of ignorance in assuming that the world is black and white if you were born colorblind. Give a blind person sight, give a colorblind person color, give a healthy person Lucy or Mary Jane or DMT and all of them will go wowzors about what they will experience As for puny humans, yes, I feel like that myself in relation to the rest of the universe that surrounds us, hence assume the same description for the entire race bypassing anyone's arrogant superiority complexes of which I have plenty myself. We're really little and should be more appreciative of the opportunity to even float on this rock of a planet in the vast space of the universe.

Well, I guess it's in the non-apologetic approach I take that I get the attention I want. In game, I only write in CAPS, and I fire into chat right away, WHICH SIDE? then *pick the strongest ship on your team and call him out to* MAKE A DECISION, I SUPPORT YOU!... or FIGHTING BY YOUR SIDE TILL I DIE (because I mostly play support roles CA/CV)... etc. I guess people feel different when you ask them to make a decision instead of telling them what to do, which I could. But I prefer the team spirit over bossing. You show a sign of trust - that's important. People want to be believed in, it's always nice when someone else believes in you - trusts your competence. It gives you courage to make decisions and to take active approach towards the game instead of the fearful one, worrying about that you might die and what not. And when you know someone is going down for you, regardless of whether your decision turns out good or bad is so empowering. Then the conversation usually catches on and people begin to actually communicate and discuss strategic moves. I know that if I don't start the chat, in 80% of the games it will be just silence for the entire of the game. But I can't stand to silently watch my fate go down the drain... in the words of a famous poet - Dylan Thomas I must... Rage against the dying of the light.

420 more, rage less. Solution to everything. Ultimately, there is only 1 race on this planet, can you guess which? Everything else is nonsense. European court of confused trolls has no relevance in the grand scheme of the existence. It's hard for me to get into these kind of discussions with puny human perceptions, because I've seen the time stop, I've seen the world warp into dimensions beyond belief, I've been one with the universe and I've touched the eternity. To conclude, they simply don't know what they're talking about.

And @OP, please understand the difference between xenophobic nationalism and racism. A nation is NOT a race. The misuse of references is irritating to watch.

Eh, no? I've had many instances where the communication in team chat helped to win or draw the battle? Even tho' I've been talking to maybe only 2 or 3 people during those game, it was enough to make a meaningful impact on the results. They could implement the option similar to WoT, where you can turn off the chat, but then again you're putting yourself into a strategic disadvantage by doing that anyway. As with anything, the chat is a feature to be used, we shouldn't ban chat because people might verbally misbehave, just as we don't ban water because people drown in it, or fire 'cause they get burned, and we should absolutely remove the bans on all drugs, because again they're all just a substance which is subject to misuse and doesn't cause any harm to anyone by itself... It's always people that are to blame for anything that happens to them. Pretentiousness (to be more than we - humans - are) and ignorance (of that fact)...will guide the downfall of the mankind.

Of course! There is no way to apply any reasonable filter. That's just insecure childish perception of the world thinking there is. There's nothing to filter in a sentence like.... "Noobs, bots and siemkas on my team again, why is it always mein kampf?" ...and yet, I managed to send some folks into uncontrollable rage with that from both, my and the enemy, team, even to the point my own DD sank me in base, haha. Most people didn't even mind the noobs, bots and siemkas part, which is there only to help build up tension for the peak of the sentence "mein kampf" anyway...

Ultimately, WG didn't create this game to teach people manners. So it's more like dragging an injured horse on a long journey along with the caravan.

How many games have implemented such approach throughout the years? And what did it help - nothing. Their communities are still toxic, there's so many ways to go around filters by swtiching chraaacetrs in teh wrods oyu chosoe and it'll still get understood, the meaning will get across, the butthurt won't be stopped. By any system. Also, thinking that someone (there is noone like that on this planet) will implement a system that will make YOUR problems with things go away is LOL.

Fail. More policing, more cameras, more NSA... is exactly what the world does NOT need. Not in the real world, nor in the virtual one. Where do you get the impression that those controlling the means of control are heaven-sent saints that only have the idea of the brightest future for the world on their minds? Learn a thing or two about your own, human, nature finally. And understand that the approach you're proposing, and that the world nowadays seems propelling, is cancerous to creation of the great, peaceful society we'd probably enjoy much more than the war-hoin', greed-loving and hate-spitting one we live in today. How many of you have enough strength to confront those that rage in other way than that of silence or the similar raging response ? I doubt I could find a handful of people on the server at any given time that are capable of rising above the situation and being able to respond with enough maturity and calmness. It's literally thousands of emotionally immature kids shouting at each other or just ignoring each other, pretending to be grownups. What we need is less policing, more common sense. Less condemnation, more compassion and understanding that the perspective of those that rage is such that it inevitably forces them to rage, because it is impossible for them to figure out or justify any other reaction. You can't think of things you don't know. And because we're talking about emotional hurt, not the physical (where you might need guns and weapons to protect yourself from evils of others, where you might need to be non-apologetic in your ways and even kill others in order to protect yourself or someone else, because it's simply too late to talk), we have an opportunity to greatly improve our own approach and eventually the society. It's like a playing ground where the only harm is the one you assume. I'll say it again, on the emotional plane the only harm is the one you assume for yourself. Or in other words, it is a matter of perception. We should do the exact opposite of what you're proposing and help people mature emotionally. Every rage has a reason and it usually is the misunderstanding of the subject one rages about. Providing the understanding fixes that. I have the experience first hand. I rage too, I can rage in ways most rages of other people would seem like baby innocent talk. Because with expanded consciousness and awareness also comes the ability to construct spiteful comments so devastating they can crush souls. Funnily enough, the most evil remarks/acts are those that use no curse words but are formulated in a very serious, cold-like and calculated manner. In that respect, we are lucky on the internet and in the games especially. Because the rage is usually the result of emotional explosion and can be seen as temporary. Each and every person has a potential to be good and evil. As good as one can become, so evil he can turn too. If you have potential to do 100% good, you unfortunately have potential to do 100% evil too. It's with one's own conscience to pick the appropriate response for the situation, sometimes even evilness brings more goodness than goodness alone would. If you want to be strong, as you say, try understanding your own nature. You will then understand every single human being regardless of the settings, status, talks, masks and pretends it's all wrapped up in. And you will see to the core of things. Then you can help others, simply by being a man of understanding, to let go of their rage. To advise them in a way they would have never thought of and to impact their lives for better. The ignorance you're proposing is the act of weakness. There is no difference between those that are moved by emotions like fallen leaves in the wind and those that force themselves to ignore them. They're both acting in an equally evil way with each of them wishing for their evil to become the superior one.

A jaka je cela pointa vetsiny statistik? O lodich toho moc nevypovidaji protoze jsou renderovany pres urcite spektrum player base. Ze 90% lidi jsou lamy at uz se jedna o jakoukoliv oblast zivota, je fakt overeny minulosti, pritomnosti a stejne tak to bude pokracovat i v budoucnosti, protoze lidska podstata se nemeni. Ani statiskity hracu kteri jsou na vyssi urovni moc toho nereknou, neb i mezi nimi jsou porad dost velke rozdily. Pritom se staci podivat na specifikace lodi, a z jejich porovnani se da jednodusse vydedukovat jejich nejefektivnejsi pouziti v kterekoli mozne situaci. Zabyvat se statistikami ve vztahu k balancovani hry je jako varit polevku a porad z ni odlevat, protoze je voda moc slana a prilevat tam vody ciste, aby tolik slana nebyla, jenom aby clovek za chvili zase zjistil, ze neni dost slana a musi prisolit, cimz zase dojde k presoleni. Jednoduse proto, ze kazdemu chutna neco jineho a tudiz se vzdycky najde nekdo kdo se nad polivkou rozbreci, aby si ji prisolil.

Exactly this. @ironhammer500 - At some instances your planes start popping even before you are in range for any meaningful drop. Not to mention you have to account for panic and widening of torpedo/bomb drop spread when you get a slap from AA, PLUS the fact that the enemy ship will begin to turn and angle towards or away from you when she sees you and you have to adjust the angle at which you're approaching her because you want to force a direct side hit if possible in order to hit with as many torps as doable. But that all takes precious seconds away from you, cause the planes can't teleport, and while the clock is ticking, her AA battery and probably fighter if not CV's fighters are just deleting you from the sky. There is a very effective way to protect yourself against squadrons especially at higher tiers. It's just that not all people have learned about it yet, so no wonder you propel the theories that you do.

Sorry, but no. The horde would have to be really big numbers, like 10+..and there's no CV setup that lets you send out 10 squads at the same time. Maximum is, I believe 8, but that's T10, it's a story I can't comment on yet, but at level 7, where I'm at right now, your all squads can get melted with ship's long range aa, ship's fighter and some fighter assistance from cv like ice on fire...you can easily not even manage to drop a single torp or bomb. Your planes just disappear from sky. You have to be very specific in defining who is it you are attacking. If you send your horde against 2 USN BB and 1 USN CA, it's game over for your squadron. The ships can pretty much become immune, where immune is a verb, an act of doing...through the combination of knowledge and its application you can build untouchable defense.

They should give manual control over planes, you could switch between them... press Shift for onboard view from the plane and show off your skills in the dogfight...like in WoP, then probably JP could start winning because their planes are superior in turns and can out-turn US.. They should also allow cross landing on CVs, why do I have to fly over the entire map back when my friendly CV is closer to my planes and could easily service my planes as well.

All this is my yesterday's experience. Although I played only 9 games with Hiryu (tried all setups)...I met Rangers on enemy team, 2 vs me was impossible, 1 vs 1 was also impossible. Nonetheless, they all played 2/0/2 and that was flipping frustrating. They had sides of the map spotted by bombers or roaming DDs/CAs, when I moved there, the fighters were there in an instant... otherwise they were hovering over the middle and their AA line of defense. Maybe those were just weird games, 5 minutes in and not a single ship was sunk yet was normal. They held their defenses well and accounting for many USN ship's insane AA defense you can't even engage a ship without losing half or all of your attacking squads. I have no idea what current "meta" is, if there is any at all, but 2/0/2 setup right now blocks the sky like a [edited]brick wall. Plus so many fighter planes, combed with 2 Ranger's fighters, and AA guns that begin to rip you apart 5km away (long before you can drop anything). On the other hand, in most of those games those Rangers were in a division with their mates...so that was probably their point, to take over the sky and let their mates win the battle. Of course if there's no 2/0/2 in the new patch for Ranger, it's gonna be easy for Hiryu.

Yea, except most of the above is nonsensical theoretical blabber of hypothetical damage on paper. The only time an IJN carrier player has a chance is when the enemy has spread too wide over the map and USN carrier player cannot cover it properly with fighters or the map is big enough to do a slide-by the edge to the back of enemy team. But if the map is smaller, or the enemy team sticks closer together as in a lemming train or some formation, or USN carrier knows how to scout properly with bombers (easy for any skilled RTS ...IJN carrier is easily rendered useless by USN carrier fighters, literally. Since USN carrier only has to protect the "body" of his team, he guards it on the inner perimeter, whereas IJN has to make a way around it or through.. And that is a stalemate situation...since going around takes too long and if spotted USN fighters will be there in a heartbeat. If a great Ranger player meets a great Hiryu player... the Ranger player will zone out Hiryu player completely. Resulting in naught-naught being done by either of them. USN fighters are too strong (and generally fighters are faster than td/tb), and because they protect against attacks from inner (hence smaller) circle, they can cover the area with ease. Before IJN bombers or tds can get anywhere near a ship, 2 USN fighters are already there... and you can do nothing, but withdraw. And if you charge forward with everything you got anyway you'll get eaten like the paper you are, and get to drop 1-2 torpedoes if you're lucky, let alone hit with any... USN fighters melt IJN planes insanely fast, plus a good player will switch his attacks between planes to cause all of them to panic and spread their drops wide... and then there always seems to be an insanely long range AA barrage coming your way accompanied by a ship dedicated fighter. IJN must look for a window of opportunity. Whereas USN must be sure in his ways of securing the perimeter. If you can secure the perimeter, there's no opportunity. And even if you expand all the scenarios by considering your team assisting your planes in getting through, if executed well on both sides, it's still a stalemate. The only reason IJN carriers outperform USN carriers on lower tiers is lack of AA/air defence on the battle field and people's misconception about the role and nature of both sides. I can only imagine the duel ultimately boils down to fighting with your planes over the area where ships fire at each other. Where the air is covered by both side's AA and who will come on the top depends on micromanagement skills and the ability to make a quick and wise decisions in a split of second.