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Hence why you play a ship to their strengths not the enemies. You give a Neustrahimy one option, and that is to smoke or run. You cant spot if your in smoke (Z52 and Daring territory), you cant run being chased down by a French DD and burst damage and the outspotting game is hard with a Shimmy. All about playing to straights and not letting the enemy do theirs. And the Groz ticks the utility box more than a Gearing IMHO. I love the Groz. It's a great ship no doubt and good captains can do great with here (hence her stats), but it's not one that is hard to counter if you have an understanding on what it's good and not good at. it's just having torp range the same as Radar range and that lack of DMP (i'm more of a Gunboat captain) plus it being steel when silver DD's are just as good is something that puts me off. but i might get it in the future, i have nothing against the ship and love using 130mm. If it wasn't for the somers, then this might be the next steel ship for me. But the Black appeals to me at that tier too. Lol

The stats looks solid enough. Neustrashimy U.S.S.R. 14 779 57.16 % 0.98 51 553 1 915 3.28 2.14 In fact, considering the number of games it's top of the chats. Personally i don't know what to make of it. The stats are sweat but it's just everytime i come across one in a Groz, daring or even a tier 8 KIDD, i simply murder them as their DPM is pump. Like the shimmy, avoid the torps and your pretty safe. 0.6 km means little when you speed into them and have RPF. But i think i would like the ship. It just doesn't fill me with any sort of dread on the load up screen like a well played Kleber would.

Wow. If i did that with the 2 hours say, I put in a night after work and family then i would have completed that in about 3-4 months. Take it you don't work. It's not a dig but it's interesting to know who this is apparently free grind is aimed at (when they stated it's "dodable"). i admire you but also feel sorry for you at the time time, no disrespect. I hope you are alright.

Wow, good going mate! Not a single booster brought too. I cant but just admire the work you have put in even though it has stripped your flag supply. I am not even gonna ask how much time you have put into doing that and how your eyes must be bleeding. You are gonna need to sleep for a few days after all this. Lol But well done, i really hope you finish it and click that "complete for money" button! My i ask, and if you don't mind and i understand if you don't answer.....Do you work?

No boosters (not a chance) and by just playing about 1-2 hours a night if i was on, finished directive 3 and got that free ship thingy. A ship i had no intention to get or even play to be honest. However, i got the Haida in one of the free Santa box (end of directive 2). So in the end i got 2 free ships. One is quite good at tier 7 and fun, the other i have no interest in. Involved in a tournament at the moment so training battles don't give you XP. lol Cant complain about getting things free from this whole PR grind. But the way they have done all this is shocking.

I don't think you seem to understand. Biases Vlogger? Wow, really? Here we go, insult time when people arnt happy with the way a conversation is going. Tut tut Insult you? Again, wow. If you don't understand now, you wont regardless of however many times i attempt to explain it to you. Sometimes I take Flamu with a pinch of salt, but I do agree with him on this one. Oh and I will never know about your PR and Alaska stats because yours is hidden. what is the odds..... Enjoy your apparent Ferrari, it is the best thing since sliced bread i'm sure. Lol As long as your happy, that is all that counts.

So I've got round to grinding the line.... What a crock of a line so far and at the Trento. Tier 4-5-6 are awful. The tier 5 was crap. Did WG decide to put everything that is bad onto these ships? 1) For a cruiser with only 8 guns, the turret turn is truly soundly bad. I mean a new level in my books 2) Gets spotted from the Moon. 3) SAP so far is.....Crap. Give me fire damage any day of the week. Fire SAP at light cruisers? Yeah right, AP does ALOT more. 4) Turns like a brick 5) For a crusier with only 8 guns again.....WHAT A SLLLLOOOOWWWWWW reload. 6) Armour is paper 7) Those SAP rounds are sooooo floaty. 15 sec lead time at 13km? That is bad. There is truly nothing good about this ship and looking at the whole line, until the tier 8 (maybe). Oh and smoke? Yeah, great until you fire from it and you get spotted from the moon. Rant? Maybe, but I just wanted to voice that so far this is, in all the years of players this game, the worst line yet for me. It's painful. WG you really need to look at these low-mid tier ships. Best piece of advice I can give is free XP till at least tier 7. Really.

Well got the tier 8 now and..... Sooooo much better. Only had ONE game in it and already you can tell it's something much better, well to be honest it could hardly get any worse. Better armour (for it's tier), workable guns, flatter arcs (thank god) and more guns, yey. It feels like a cruiser, handles like a cruiser with a purpose and the SAP doesn't hit nothing but dreadnoughts. Amalfi 8 Italy 1 0% 2 615 129 394 1 0 Details A loss i know (the team was completely....yeah that) but defo the best ship bar far far far in this line. So my advice is 100% skip the line up to tier 8 (skipped tier 7 Zara, really couldn't handle another bad ship) and save you playing some pile of crap ships. I will get round to playing that free tier 7 PR grind one, but not this side of the year that's for sure.

Monahan: But i really don't know if it's good or not?? A ship that I still have no idea what it is meant to be and how to use it. I have used both builds and still i don't have a clue. I have no idea why i still have it in my port (got it from a super container). All the other Premiums I own I would classed as "good to great" or at least usable. The biggest surprise Premium was the Sims. Got it from a free mission crate some time ago but ending up being my go to DD. There is something about flooding the sea with a constant stream of sea mins and hitting things 10 mins later. Well, until i got the Haida which i am having bags of fun with (free on the PR grind, big xmas box).

Like it less with the change. The AP pen was perfect for cit cruisers. Now it's over pen after over pen and bounce after bounce. Don't play it now. The shan is still the king at killing cruisers, hands down.

Could not stand the Moskva. Love the Grad. Playable? God there are so many good tier 10 cruisers right now, some stand out ones too (OP).

Are the guns the same? You might wanna look into that ???? *cough* The Grad and Mosvka to name a few? And trust me, the PR is not the new Grad by a long shot. it's a tier above. Perspective remember. Please see almost every other tier 9 and tier 10 above it. Does that make them better tho? Hummmm. Not even taking into account the Gne has like 6 guns less (unlike the 3 guns less of the Alaska) but the HP is almost double! Not to mention it's amour layout and currently has an average damage output of 35,000 difference! Now the Alaska has only 10,000 HP difference with a current average damage sitting at 4,000????? 4,000 more and it's a tier 10 ship? Hummmm.... It still has 27mm on the front like the Alaska and fat (so massive damage). It still has that unprotected deck amour cit which AP bombers LOVE to hit it with and Yam shells and STILL it can only fire with 6 guns when bow-on, just like the Alaska. No, the PR / Alaska is alot alot more closer together than those awful examples you just gave. I could have given you better ones. Of course the skoda is the better car for my needs. Is that a rhetorical question? I have a wife, 2 kids and 2 dogs. See, it's all a matter of perceptive, not just out-right stats And for the vast majority of players, when you put those 2 ships together and add it all up taking into account cost, value, stats at it's own tier and reputation, the Alaska to many (including myself) comes out as better. Cost accounts for alot as it's value for money. is £50 compared to £90+ value for money if it only has 4,000 damage, some armour differences and 10,000 HP difference? To some, yes but to many no. I am not saying the PR is a bad ship as she certainly isnt that. Like i have said i think she is a good ship that will do alright but she is currently smack in the middle of avg damage and only just in the top 1/4 with WR. That isnt good for a new ship that has attached this much negative attention.

Supporting DD's rely on a numbers of factors: 1) Concealment 2) Fire rate and accuracy 3) Tools 4) Pen/ammo 5) Turret angles and turn rate Let's take the PR here shall we. 1) Concealment. Not good, 16.5 base is not good, so say 13 km max if you really wanna go full CE with cammo and such. Your radar is 10km and your concealment is 13 km max. That is a big gap, unlike say the Des with 10 km radar and 10.8 km. You have ALOT less flash to bang happening. you can supries your DD enemy alot more. There is no way on earth you can surprise a DD unless he is being played but a Muppet. He will have buckets of time to turn around in a calm and collected manner and trot off. The faster you are spotted, the more you are focused in the initial salvos. The more you are visible and more you are shot at and the PR deck armour is not good against BB AP shells that dip (already spanked one from a YAM). The Des has the same unprotected cit under it's deck. You are a supercrusier designed to kill cruisers and BB's? So spending time behind a rock radaring a cap with the use of only 6 guns isnt gonna set the world on fire. It works with a Des, not a the PR. 2) Fire rate and accuracy You need a bit of both, but if you don't then you at least need fire rate. You need to hit the DD in the shortest amount of time. The longer the reload, the more you rely on RNG to give you the perfect hit. You don't use a GPMG to double tap your enemy, you use it to put down suppression fire and win the fire fight with the sheer amount of rounds put down. You are less reliant on RNG to get the job done, quantity has a quality of its own. Remember, you have a limited time period when to kill the DD (before it smokes or runs). You miss that well aimed shot because of RNG you might not get another chance to. Ships like the Smol can get mutipul rounds down with good accuracy (pound for pound) so you are less relyant on RNG and can even change your aim more. So the PR has BB dispersion and has a slow rate of fire. That is not a good DD killing machine. Ships like the Smol, Kleb, Harra, Mino, Colbert and Des are much better at putting rounds down and are more accurate to boot. 3) Tool What does my ship have to kill DD's? So 1) Smoke to get you within the kill zone to support the DD in question (Smol, Mino, Harra) 2) Radar to spot the DD up 3) Hydro to knife fight. The PR has radar which is good right? Well do you see that many grads steaming close to the caps to support the DD's at the start of the game? No. because the first thing the enemy would see from the moon is the Grad coming into view. And that has longer range radar too, the PR has 10km with bad concealment. Not only that but the Moskva and Grad has bless stalin approved shells with out of this world accuracy, arcs and speed that can hit a DD from 15 km away easy. 4) Ammo You know why the Venezia is good at wracking DD's in a single salvo? SAP. It's also has creeping smoke to get close too when a DD is spotting. It also has much better sigma and a whopping 15 guns to use. Deadly. The PR doesn't have SAP and AP will give you over pens every day of the week. HE with hurt, but repairable when he is only receiving rounds every 20 secs, unlike 5.5 secs from the Des. So the Venezia, which kinda suffers from the same problems at the PR (long reload and concealment) makes up for that with tools + accuracy (SAP, creeping smoke, more guns and better accuracy) 5) Turret angles and turn rate You need to get as many guns on the target as possible if you have a slow reload. So you need to turn to show you back guns right? 25 is bad. That means when you turn to fire all your guns, any BB will be able to Cit you. The grad can still fire all guns and remain at an angle when he can still bounce. The PR cant. Summary I am not saying the PR CANT* kill DD's. Anything can. But there are like 70% better ships to support a DD then the PR. The accuracy, concealment and rate of fire doesn't make up for the only thing in your favour, radar, to kill a DD. You will be totally relying on your own team to take him out on your behalf? Which is always a risk ...Especially when you have now committed your big turn like a brick ship into the front lines of the battle. And with the stigma the PR has attached to it now? It's will receive all the fire in the world from not only the enemy fleet, but even you own (which should not be tolerated by-the-way). The Alaska has a faster fire rate, is more accurate and doesn't need to show it's sides to unleash it's full potential. It also has better concealment to boot. Stick to what the PR is good at. And that is murdering cruisers in cold blood and working at medium range. Flank when you get the chance and use that lovely AP into sides of poor ships and burn the decks of Grad with your HE IMHO anyway

And lets put that into perspective shall we. It's a tier higher ship. All of my clan mate who have BOTH said the Armour, HP and heavier shells are slightly better but considering the Alaska is a tier 9 ship, still has heavy guns, better accuracy and hits further, costs less and gets put into the same MM, the Alaska is the better ship relatively speaking. One of the biggest complaints actually is the PR guns struggle to cit BB side armour from mid/long range

Chaps. This is a good proactive good clan. The You VS Me tournament being one of there highlights which is growing strength to strength I highly recommend them Red (CG)

Thanks for explaining that mate Remember it wasn't a dig and it sounds like the chips fell into place nicely for you. 40 for a tier 10 ship is good. I forget people actually buy crates. I personally don't touch them with a barge pole.

Well don't forget the recent Earle Gray screw up. The Muppet bragged about getting the ship in REDDIT and putting his feet up. What he didn't say is that he used 3 boosters (prob from WG) to get it.

So only 5,000 was technically free? The rest was obtained via money. and you brought the Gorizia before the event? You can tell me to get lost you know it's just it's interesting how many people have spent getting this thing and how many. In my clan 2 people have brought the whole thing out right ( i know) and 2 have brought the 3 boosters and ground the rest, which they now have. By the end of the whole thing, i think 2 other people will crack (that had brought either 1 or 2 boosters and don't wanna go to waste. So out of 48 people, I can see 6 of them having it by the end.

Only going of what i have seen in randoms and talking to the chaps in our clan that have them (they get stick as well from everyone ) It's nothing special, but it's a good ship. It's having a hard time penning BB armour from the side (where ships like the Grad and just cit it) and it takes quite alot of damage on it's nose. It still only has 27mm and not the 50 mm (some of it) and slimmer profile of the Grad. it also burn. It can get 8-10k per HE salvo and hits cruisers like a truck (just like the Alaska) when a cruiser shows it's broadside. But it's accuracy can be so-so, unlike a Moskva and Grad and if the enemy cruiser is angled well, they burn it down. It's got great utility like US cruisers do but shorter ranged radar and defensive AA is, well in this rework, means nothing. But this ship doesn't put any fear into me, like say a well played Smol, krem, Grad, Thunderer, soms, ect... I think its a good balanced ship, but there is no chance in hell i'm getting involved with the PR crap. Sooooo not worth it in time, stigma, principle and money. Such a shame for a balanced ship.

Massa and Lenin. Massa is both fun and very good that can take on anything. However you needed a dedicated captain for it. Lenin is a one-way street BB but is very good at what it does. Both can do alright in a tier 10 match too. But i would recommend the Massa first, it's also more forgiving (slightly). Like Crackteackerflack, i haven't touched the Alabama since and i loved that ship (full AA build back then and div with a cv).

The thing is that half the BB's are Cruiser killers and the other half are BB killers. So depending on which target you wanna get out the way first, depends on the ship you pick.

Hands down no contest regarding tier 6 premiums. T-61...Boom As for BB? It's a hard one because they all have their strengths and weakness. There are no stand out ones. All depends on what you what to do and how and what you wanna kill. Do you like Tanking or Flanking? Do you like close and personal bawling or mid range? Do you like shotguns or sniper rifles? I think they are quite balanced at that tier the BB's (praise be to god). But if you asked me personally which one i liked and is better for my play style at that tier?...Ummm....Arrr...... I CAN'T! Ok then...Izmail and Normandie. No wait the Bayen....no the Warspite....

But you already had the gold for the first 2 boosters? Where did that gold come from? Free from creates mate?

I played it before the buffs and move. God i hated that ship.

And i totally get that. The whole reason for this grind is the Venezia. It's a great ship which i have seen time and time again do well in Div's and the clan tournaments we are currently in, including brawls. We have a deadly combination and the Venezia is one of those ships. Higher tiers have never been the problem (well, looks like it anyway), it's these lower tier ones, that i have actually played that need some attention. I just think it's a shame that most people just free xp the line to tier 8, but i can see why. What a waste of time by WG devs.