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It's slow but packs a huge punch, 203 mm at tier 5 is god like. Think the Sinop at tier 7. It's the master of hit and run. It will surprise all Cruisers, making sure that you always get the first shot off. That, sometimes, is all you need. And when supporting a DD, the HE will cause chaos. Heal for laughs and takes a beating considering it's amour.

And the Smol doesn't have a spotter plane? Doesn't effect that ship what-so-ever. It's going to be very strong.

Or i can get it free. Hummmm, i know which line i will be waiting in. Grind or Free XP, i can choose and neither cost me a penny. Mid tier economy is hardly taxing

I never understood why people do that. For a prem camo on midtier ships? Really.... But i am looking forward to the line though, will just see what tokens/ships i get for just playing.

Yup. They are beautiful . Really beautiful. I remember spending about 10 mins just looking at the Hood when they first come out and some of the Italian cruisers are such wonders. Love the Roma. You see the guys in that department can go about their wonderful job and not feel the cold hand of the marketing department around their neck. But if i wanted to see a visual ship, or only buy one to sit in the port, then i wouldn't by a computer generated one. I would buy and build my own one with AirFix ect which i do and paint. I finished off the HSM COSSACK (remote controlled) 1 month ago. https://www.model-dockyard.com/acatalog/info_DM20.html (that's the example model, not my pic) It is beautiful and the kids love sailing it! Not cheap though and took me 8 months to complete. You are one of those players. Rightly or wrongly. You will happy spend 35,000 dbs on the PR or any ship. Now that is totally up to you and you can spend your money as you want. You pay money so i can play this game. However....MY personal view is i will only spend money if i like/ support the company that i am giving money too. I can not with a normal conscience support a company any longer that does stuff they have been doing. Because every bit of money i/you spend is actually encouraging them to do more stupid stuff in the future. i've spent my share of money on this game, until i knew the direction there were going. Just the same as WOT. At the end of the day, how many ships do you really need to have fun and play the game with. We are so obsessed to get the new in-shop ship, and WG over blow them to make them the "gonna have". One of the hardest thing in life is to be content, take that bit of advice from an old dog. It was only a matter of time. Things don't last. Have a break and continue to play the game. It's still a good game and the only one really. But if you ask me? Don't spend a PENNEY on this game until WG show some ounce of respect for it's players. The only way they will ever listen is when the shareholders come calling. But i understand that people DO like the way WG are going and that is why they spend stupid amounts of money on things like the PR. Personally that is a weeks worth of family shopping but everyone has their own needs and what they consider value for money. At the end of the day, people have different levels of concuss, morals and views.

Chaps, it wont be long until you can part with your money. Chill. Only looking forward to the British Heavies.

Looking forward to the line to be honest. I love the Exeter and if they are like that, could be my new fav line. But i feel sorry for the other cruisers that will get a nerf because of them. Also make sure you grind them quick before it gets nerfed when enough people have them. I cant really say much about them until i actually play them. But being able to pen 50mm with HE sounds like another Henri, i wonder why that's getting a nerf then? Hummmm.

I mean that is the DD world according to Redcap There are far better DD players than me as it's the last ship class i ground. But i went from actively killing them in the old RST CV's, to joining them because i knew then as i do now, that DD's win games. Why do you think my first target was always DD's? I got VERY good at killing them in the end. You strip the enemy of it's eyes and no bugger wants to push.

No. People like Klebers because it's a DD killer and can run circles around cruisers. They are HARD to hit and can torp rush BB's from their max concealment. They can devastate cruisers with AP and cit ships like the Des......easy. They are the ultimate "seat of your pants" ship and i have seen Kleber players do some crazy things and come out on top. Light cruisers are NOT awful. They are better then heavy cruisers at the moment because of reasons..... Only yesterday I totalled a full health Henri with my Smol using AP only, not even HE... Getting cit from half-way across the map is the USERS fault 8/10, not the ship it's self. If a BB is trying to hit a Light cruiser, then it's not hitting more important targets. You also have the "overpen" advantage that heavy cruisers can only dream of. If your getting spotted then you are either taking a calculated risk or you doing something wrong. You use 2 DD's to go to one cap then you run the risk of losing to points. You also run the risk of losing 2 DD's instead of one if it's heavy radar-ed. I mean it's IMHO, because that is how i personally play DD's. But if i want to support a DD, i would never pick another DD to do it with because your actually handicapping the team. You are depriving a set of eyes for that side of the map for your team and knowledge is power. Now CB's are TOTALLY different.

Not far off. It will be on the same lines. We have the RN Heavy cruisers coming out which many streamer say is the "New Henri". Which i tend to agree with because of it's the HE. Chaps... This is the same crap WG pulls every time, why are we all shocked when it happens? Really, why are we all shocked? They need to nerf lines that have run it's course so you will grind new lines. Get the new funky ship and spend £££££. The Venezia will be next when enough people have it. The only spreadsheet they care about are shareholder spreadsheets and which ships are being ground and not. If too many people have the Henri then it gets a nerf. When enough people have the Klebber, it gets a nerf, when enough people have the old hindy, it gets a nerf, when enough people have the YY, it gets a nerf and i bet my mortgage, when enough people have the Ventezia, it WILL get a nerf. WG does not make money if you are happy with the ships you have. They make money by getting you to grind new lines. So they nerf or change ships. Can anyone really say that the Henri is over-preforming? Really, i mean really??? It's middle of the road stat wise so it definitely isn't stat driven. So it's all about getting you to grind other ships and making other ones "more appealing". This has been going on for 4 years now. WarGaming needs to get a grip of things, they are bring things like this out after the PR Armageddon? You have to admire there sheer discontent of the players and not living in the past ay. Lol In fact they can no longer get a grip, it's gone and we have to except that.

@The_Chiv I think his name is in his money ship (PR). Everything just burned but a win!!!!! I mean how much fire do you want in a game....

Or instead of having 1 cap, you could of had 2 if your friendly DD didn't follow you? So it all depends on the situation, caps, amount of DD's and radar. Oh and CV of course but that can works both ways (for you AND the enemy). Now RTS CV's are gone, DD's require the most active quick thinking brains. To input everything, from ship knowledge, concealment ranges, ship radar ranges, even down to the position of hills near the cap (so you know you are safe from radar, or likely spots). DD's have always been teamplayers. How I personally see DD's are: 1) First and most importantly, grab the caps. 2) In doing the first, you have 1/2 done the second…….Spot for your team. 3) Murder the enemy DD So a DD following a DD is BAD for the team IMHO. It means that you will lose more map control, visibility for the team and single cap domination. If you wanna play "support the DD" pick a LIGHT CRUSIER lads. Please. Plus there is nothing worse for a BB player and even a cruiser player not being able to see anything because your side DD is swanning off to another cap. Their blind. And most damaging of all is that they will naturally follow you! So choo choo lemming train. They wont push anything if they cant see anything and they don't wanna be constantly spotted by the enemy DD who desidded to acctaully cap on their own. I love seeing Frei and Harra's in the enemy team because I know that I will EASY get all the cap's whilst their farming HE damage. When they realise they don't actually have any caps, they will flap (or their own team will flame in chat at them) and try to retake the caps. Hook line and sinker, you have them as their not cap contesters but wanna be light cruisers. You always play a ship to your strengths, not theirs. Oh and completely random, how is this MM! Last fun game of the night! Sooooooo much Fire.

Ok... DD play is a game changer. If you are a good DD player you can alter the game in your favour at many points during the game. 1) Kill the enemy DD Subjective hat on but when a team loses it's DD, they 9/10 lose the battle. 2) Grab the caps Grab the caps to ease the pressure off your team. The more pressure you put on players, the more likely they are to do stupid stuff. 3) Try hard div Div/clan player? Pick a supporting cruiser, it's golden. Italian Crusier, mino, des or smol, doesnt matter but it's the difference between you wining and losing quickly. That accounts for cruiser players too. I straight the way latch onto a DD player i think is going in. Even if he dies the worst that can happen is they trade because i was there to help him. Better that than die alone. 4) Risk, it comes with the job Caps are your bread and butter IMHO. Use your tools and concealment and weight up if that cap is worth it or not. 1 DD, 2 radar and 3 caps? What is the odds of the DD going to your cap or the radar ships being in range before you can cap it. Do the maths in your head at the beginning and go for it. Task a risk so to speak, but a calculated one. The daring. The first thing i do is bring my div mate and steam into the cap. i couldn't careless who is in there because 9/10 he will die. I then grab all the caps. By the time a Z-52 or black smokes hes already dead because he has received a face full of SAP and auto bounce AP from a 2.2 sec reload daring. DD's win games.

HoI4 and CK2 are 2 games i can just play, without frustration. They have DLC's but it's totally up to you if you wanna use them or not. No bloody lootboxs or units that will brake the balance that you NEED. All companies go the same way, it's all about money. The bigger they get, the most investors and shareholder need to be feed. That is when things to get out of control and the play-base is ignored. Star Citizen. I know, you have 2 sides to the whole SC. But it's a man and company i actually, as far as you can for a games company, believe in right now. But i wouldn't be surprised if he and the company too gets greedy in the end. But i have hope, just like i did in this game. They actually listen to the play-base and it's still an alpha.

It's not about sides. *sigh* If you think, really think that WG hasn't shown contempt for the players and streamers, been employing money grabbing shoddy schemes and blatantly lying then i guess we wont be pulling on the "same side" i'm afrade for a while. because if you cant open your eyes to that, everything else that follows is white noise. You either cant see it, don't wanna see it or your extremely naive. Your not a stupid chap, so i think you choose not to see it and walk past. I was gonna go on about the Hindy and how much of a balance cluster F that was to make other ships attractive and now people don't grind it, it's reverting back. Lol, big Lol. But i think I've lost the moment and one bad decision is just blending into another. We said don't do it, and WG did. And now your (WG) buffing it back up and nerfing the Henri??? Read the OP opening address. And how bloody right I and 39 other people where back then. I even mentioned on the first page how unnecessary it was and the reason why WG are doing it. Funny enough, they are still doing the same tactics now as they did back then. But anyway that is a topic all on it's own. Another topic that will get ignored anyway. Now here is man that can read between the lines ^^^

You tell me? You technically work from them don't you... Nor do I. It keeps a game fresh and enjoyable. A game that stagnates, dies. HOWEVER....It's the way you do it, and WG track record is shockingly bad, both with WOWS and WOT. New stuff, new content and new everything is good. IF IT IS ACTUALLY good. Changing LM to the crap re-grind, the atom bomb of the PR, nerfing ships when people have ground enough or a new ship/line is coming out are simply bad to the game ARE NOT GOOD CHANGES. They are financial changes my friend which is completely different. Good for the share-holds, not good for the players. Problem is @Allied_Winter, you don't wanna hear it. Just like those poor sods (mugs) that use the PT and provide feedback and WG simply ignore them. Outright ignore them. But fine, lets agree to disagree. But remember, being a moderator comes with a certain bias, i have no such shackles. But great, i am glad you brought up posting history! So as you know i was a big fan of WG back then. Proving feedback, helping players and taking about balanced ships, clans and tactics? Saying "well done WG" quite a few times and more then happy with some of the initial changes they made when the game was brand new. Oh how it has fallen, with WG marketing department firmly holding the balancing department and players by the neck. Shaking them until golden eggs fall out. Using really crafty and shady tactics (PR) to get that blood out of the stone. Bring out ships when they wasn't ready because the shareholders were getting restless (GZ). Nerfing ships when a new premium or line is about to come out (alsare and Borg). Going in hand over fist with STEAM so more money is required for the pot which comes from the players to keep shareholders happy. The CV rework was a game balance disaster and most of the ship coming out are re-skins. It's been a horrendous 2 years for WG, Maybe 3 i lose track now. It started to rear it's ugly head when the Belfast came out and box of gimmicks. I wish, i really wish i had more good things to say about WG. Ranked sprint has been the only one that i have personally said "thank you" to WG recently. Good idea, balanced and fun. We understand that WG cant get everything perfect but have "balancing" in mind not money in mind is a start but they lost that some time ago now. Bloody hell, moving LM to re-grind. Dear god how desperate are WG for people to regrind the line. Blind people can see it. Isn't it hard enough to just grind it for the casual player? Or getting it for free simply by playing isn't on anymore and WG wants money for it instead which they know people will spend getting it. Sad state of affairs.

I don't understand (at the moment) what the Yash will bring to the table? Can it tank? Yeah, but unlike the Yam it only has 4 front guns to the Yam 6. To fire off the only 2 other guns then you gonna show Yam style broadside. Not Kurf style, but Yam, easy to Cit Yam broadside. Can it snipe? Yeah, but not as nearly as good as the Yma with LM. And it's has less guns. Can it brawl? You never never wanna put a Yam into a fist fight surrounded by ships. You can tank, not brawl, there is a diffreence. And wanna use it for secondaries? You know how much you need to turn to get all the Yams secondaries firing? Far to much broadside given to get them all firing. Cit city. Don't see a use of it....Yet

Precisely, who know ay...Who knows why WG do the things they do? Who knows what will happen when WG say one thing but do another then try and sweep it under the carpet sharpish? Who knows which golden spreadsheet they are using to base their statistics from? What i do know is that there is normally a reason for things like this and it's nothing to do with balancing, that's for sure. Like nerfing ships when they have run their course to make new lines attractive. One of many many and many examples. Being forced to re-grind lines to get the LM that are worth it? Maybe because very few people are actually re-grinding the lines and I DON'T BLAME THEM! Why can i foresee a more heavily armoured ship coming out? But like you say:

Yet...

And this forum also has WG employees and sick-a-fans that will bow their head to any crap WG throw at them. They have been here from the start and will continue to paint any brown coloured substance pink. Funny world isn't it And did you notice that half the ones that are "negative" are the same ones that used to praise them? Wonder what that means.......

@OldschoolGaming_YouTube on our side in his Smol, me in the Daring. Pestered by the CV all game but manged to murder the other DD (some git kill steal with 500 left). The team most listened to the map pings and managed to get back to cap to kill the enemy pushing it.

You WAIT until subs come out. You haven't seen anything yet comrade.

God you poor thing (being genuine here). Your telling me you ground the whole thing out for free? And then you missed it by 2 hours???? Well comrade, pay 15,000 to pass go and give WG money. All that grinding and hours upon hours stuck to your chair over Xmas holiday only for you to hand over £40 in the end anyway (which you will, you know you will and WG knows this) I actually feel sick and genuinely sorry for you mate. There is a world out there.

@MrConway are you trying to encourage BB to push? Genuine question.

And on that day, hell will freeze over.