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FP. HE spam meta and has been for ages now. You will always use it every game.

CB's is the only thing I'm looking forward to. No CVs this time so tactics are back on the table thank god. Randoms are simply shocking and ranked isn't any better, but I do like the newer system to be honest. The sea of red players is eye watering at every tier. The average player has gonna be 46-47%. Seeing even a yellow player is getting rare now.

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So.......Reason? Even though it's kinda a rhetorical question. Community no longer has a say and they can do what they want with it. We always knew WG hated them for not including CV's and promoting it. Especially since subs will be coming out, something else the old KoTS wouldn't have added into the format. WG "There are no plans in adding CV's into the gamemode". Humm, when have we heard that before? That's right COUNTLESS TIMES. It's a get out company comment which basically means nothing What can possibly go wrong? Yet another family butchers being taken over by a huge supermarket so they can continue to own the narrative.

When they wouldn't allow these to div in 3 whilst testing tells you what kind of a stupid idea it is. How it is any good for the game? It isn't on either side. The ones receiveing a wall full of torps and the ones losing them when spotted. Either way It's Bad! Just like HE flame throwers are and every stupid desision they have made for the sake of money! They don't care about gameplay. 2 of these things cross torping an area of the map??? Who is gonna wanna push in groups in Randoms? 🤑

Enterprise U.S.A. 414 124 53.15 % 0.94 59 526 1 859 6.47 5.24 August von Parseval Germany 377 579 50.84 % 0.82 57 994 1 677 4.51 3.83 Indomitable U.K. 92 326 50.56 % 0.82 62 810 1 808 4.52 4.07 Kaga Japan 490 930 50.08 % 0.78 59 853 1 660 3.81 3.69 What do you notice about the top 4 CV's at tier 8? Farming doesn't win games. Killing targets quickly and effectively does and the Enterprise has no peers. It is the perfect CV to deal with ANY class of ship on the map, not even including the quality of planes it has to say the IJN. And you lost.. Using my own stats as an example and being transparent. 14 Conqueror 10 U.K. 56 51.79% 1 152 101 643 0.77 1.7 Details ^^^ my stats when I farm. Good damage, low WR. Bourgogne 10 France 65 60% 1 418 128 833 1.46 4.25 Details 8 Georgia 9 U.S.A. 66 68.18% 1 825 98 069 1.39 3.11 Details 22 Massachusetts 8 U.S.A. 188 69.15% 2 026 82 838 1.31 6.13 Details ^^^ my stats when i outright kill ships in one or two salvos. Low damage, high WR. Smolensk 10 U.S.S.R. 172 62.21% 1 830 96 296 1.24 3.4 Details If i did nothing but farm damage in a Smol then i wouldn't get a 62% WR. I can tell you that. The reason I get a 62% WR is because I murder in cold blood enemy DD's. THAT is what wins games, not farming BBs from max range. I never understood why players do this in a Smol. It's a DD supporter so use it like one! Like i said, farming doesn't win games, killing tactical ships quickly does which are normally DD's and Cruisers. Hence why the Stalingrad was a joke when it first came out and is still one of the most OP ships in the game after how long now?????? Stalingrad U.S.S.R. 1 231 546 56.01 % 0.91 88 257 1 996 4.29 1.60 Plymouth U.K. 12 752 55.03 % 0.88 70 459 1 983 3.11 1.74 Petropavlovsk U.S.S.R. 668 106 53.14 % 0.78 73 844 1 895 5.00 1.42 And some die hard WG fans in this very forum said it would drop after a few weeks/months when more people own it, lol, clowns.

As for Deadeye? No, nothing wrong with it at all. I can only take half a DD's health in one salvo (by the end of that scene shot) with AP shells from 15 km distance with one of the most inaccurate BB's around? I wonder what I can now do in My thunderer with HE shells? Marvellous. And you wonder why Cruisers don't wanna support. I mean it was hard enough in the past, but it's just pushed them further back. Not to mention the skills you can give them which sets them even futher at the back and spam!!! Cough Henri and Hindy. They have completely screwed the meta up for the worse. The good have got better and the worse have got worse, if that was even possible.. However, in the world of business (and WG know this) change is always good £££, so here we are.

His video there was one big lazy circular argument. Pointless. "He who pays the piper, picks the tunes"

Smoking? I haven't smoked since joining the mob. You need to open your eyes mate. 1) He gets constantly invited into WG HQ, all expenses paid. Including all the sub-branches. 2) Jets off, all expenses payed to around the world conferences. 3) He gets a lot of free things, ranging from merchandise to in game content. Not to mention HIS OWN merchandise and channels. 4) He gets all the new stuff from them. 5) He even has a captain in the bloody game. He is, in all intents and purposes a WG employee.. On the books as we call it or a very doubtful credible witness. In order for someone to give a completely neutral opinion on this game you need to be unbiased, which Jingles certainly isn't by any stretch of the imagination. Hence everything he says, take with a massive pinch of WG salt. He said "just adapt". Didn't point out once that their was a problem AT ALL. I WONDER WHY?? I'm not saying the guy isn't a nice bloke, all the vids and such I've seen him suggests he is. But yeah, on the books big time so don't throw that "what you smoking" crap. Stop being naïve.

First... I don't trust a word a WG employee. Jingles is one such man. Might be a lovely chap in RL but he's a WG employee (in their pocket), don't forget that. Second.. The game you just seen sums it up. Look at the positions within 8 mins, the Slava isn't even pointing in the direction of the enemy. 2 thunderers are in Snipe run away mode leaving the cruisers running around like headless chickens dodging shells. The Slava only took damage when 2 cruisers had been obliterated. The top 4 ships at the end of the game are....Battleships. Who would have believed that? The top taken by a Deadeye Slava! Regardless, it's screwed the meta right up. Funny how he didn't mention that. Jingles, you sold out long ago mate. Nearly all the streamers have sold out, only a very very few left that haven't. Too much enticement from WG for them not too. Who wouldn't like free all expenses paid holidays!

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This ^^^

The line is a big bag of crap until tier 8. After that they are good. Even with the Ven nerf, it's still worth it. It was THE meta in Clan Battles not that long ago..

Agree and just wanna add. I have now got round to grinding the German DD line and currently at the Z-23 (tier 8). The whole line has been a big bag of "Meh" at the moment. They go from torp boat to gun boats back to torp boat, but mostly keep their horrible concealment, slow speed and turn and massive target for enemy guns. They have not been enjoyable. Each time I play in one, i always think of like 4 other better DD's i could be in. Are they THAT bad? No. But they give up alot for their gimmick. Too much for my tastes. The only ship that I have enjoyed is the one i'm currently on, and at first I HATED IT! "oh no, another German DD feel"....Until i did one thing which changed it for me, I gave it the 150 mm guns. Not only did it totally change my play style but it made this DD alot more useful and fun. It's basically a Heavy cruiser in a DD's body. Unlike say a Harra which is like a light crusier HE spammer in a DD's clothing, This 150 mm German DD plays like a heavy cruiser in DD's clothing. So what makes and brakes this playstyle....SMOKE. German DD's are not good at all at kiting and spamming in the open. Not at all. They are too slow, slow reload, large, turns like a brick and no heal. But being able to relocated and provide good solid fire from smoke, 4 times a match makes it work very well. Whilst your not doing that your doing your usal torping and capping. You can also creep up on cruisers and smash them with AP, which hurts. Now if you said that i would be playing this ship WITHOUT SMOKE? Nope, not all all, forget it just like DFens has rightly said. And you give them less torp range too AND take away it's Hydro? This line is dead before it even had life with those stats. You need to give it smoke at the very least.

Ops, didn't see that mate. Your spot on. And to add to that Cruisers are in a very bad spot now. Very bad spot.

Deadeye made good players better and crap players worse. Simple as that.

Massa Hybrid build: That is also with Secondary Mod 1 for accuracy and range (20%) and secondary mod one so they last longer (100%). 127mm encased tend to last a lot longer than most. Is it the 100% best skills you can use on a BB? No, not really but it's not too far off. It's still good and the whole reason for this is fun. I refuse to fully tank this ship like I do with most BB's, It's the bloody Massa for god sake! It's got secondaries in it's blood and are still useful, but a lot less now granted. DD killer it isn't anymore, but still causes problems for larger targets. Reasons IMHO IF you are gonna use secondaries on this ship, even half spec, you have to get that fire chance up much as you can as you now hit less and the pen was always poor, only DD killing good regarding direct damage.. 7% is not to be sniffed at every 3.4 secs (and that's not including AR and Brawer activation 10%). For one point, IMHO, it's worth it on this ship for this build. I always fight in the Massa at close range so CQC comes in handy. I look for bottlnecks and plant my ship where it's gonna take time for them to chew through me. It has the lovely fast heal, tankyness and AA with Spotter plane to do that (at a pinch). I rarely shot at the back in this ship so concealment isn't an issue as i simply don't need it. Deadeye is wasted as it's already got bad sigma at long range. It's a Short/Medium range brawler. Always like faster turning guns when fighting at close/medium range in BB's and the extra heal (which i always use when i go invis behind islands) comes in handy. FP is required as HE spam is everywherea and AR still helps but costly now. Massachusetts 8 U.S.A. 188 69.15% 2 026 82 838 1.31 6.13 Details ^^ It's one of my three favourite ships in the game since the rework. I go into battle with the Massa with a different mind set than i would in something like a Bourg or Thunderer. A Massa should never be sniping at the back, be worried if you see those in your team that do. It's a ship that you feel safe in a tier 10 game and there isn't many ships you can say that about. It's a great "road block" BB. Battleship Next level: Super Unicum (+4.8%) 60.19% Unicum 100% Super Unicum + 0.05% 75% Super Unicum + 0.09% 66.67% Super Unicum + 0.11% ^^ Since the rework and using those skills i've mentioned from the start. The Massa and Bourg are the only 2 BB's I have been playing since the captain rework as i'm grinding 21 point captains. I outright refuse to spend anything on it!! The Bourg is a joke with Deadeye *slow clap WG*. Just my 2 pence on the Massachusetts.

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Hard to use and hard to hit anything going at speed from distance, hence why most players stay away from it. Doesn't have the gimmicks like say a Smol or Frelands does and lives and dies near islands. One" fire and you spotted" mistake in it could be your last shot. It's quite tanky as far as cruisers go though. Used to love this ship, but not played it for a while now. Simply put, it's old hat and it's armour works against it at range (which this game is now played at). Far too easy to Cit from range. Too many Harder hitting BB have come out since this has and it shows. However, it's still a good ship, HE has baked in IFHE and when it DOES sometimes manage to brawl it does well, but it's getting long in the tooth. Good mino players are excellent, bad ones are some of the worst you will get in the game. I have never been a fan but i know players that own that snizzle in it. It's hard mode playing the Mino (try radar, it's fun). You cant get jack of all trades more than the gearing. But it's old hat again and other DD's have better arsenals and gimmicks at their disposal. It's very average which isn't a bad thing. The shimmy is easy to play, hard to pull games with. Most you see swan off and damage farm. Gets owns by all hunters DD's and hybrids. Oh and CV's, it really doesn't like CV's. If you like torp boats then it's great, if you dont, stay away. As you have the halland, you might like it. iI prefer the Sommers however... So my friend. None IMHO. My picks would be (and in no order): 1) Des 2) Pedro 3) Nevsky 4) Daring 5) Venizia

Sir, With all due respect, you seriously don't. Matthew 7:5 springs to mind.

So just like you steaming into a cap in a BB then... What is the difference? Before you slag off other players and plays that may or may not have happened, I would consentrate on your own gameplay first.

Fun for you, not fun for the team your in as you throw your ship away for nothing. They then have to work harder to get the points back you threw away dying.

Div up lads. A mixed well though out Div is worth it's waiting gold. A CV with picket ships. A close support smol with something like a smaland. A Boug with a Des and Daring. There are so many good combos where you can help eachother out. Smoke and spot, tank and flank. Split and dominate. As for caps...Humm. There has been games where if it wasn't for grabbing all the caps, we would have lost. Praying for the points to tick up faster than your patatoes die. But certainly there are times (more) when your team just dies anyway, regardless of how many caps you hold. But I know where @Rautainen_Biisoni@ is coming from.

And the beginning, middle and especially end too. You kill the DD and it cascades down. 1) The cruisers wont go anywhere knowing an enemy DD is around as it's in fear of being spotted and blipped by some deadeye Yam or something. 2) BB's wont push anyway just because, but even more so knowing that a DD is in front. 3) Natural reaction to losing DD's. They camp and die like sheep. Ladies and Gents, THESE are the teams you get day in and day out in this game now....This is tier 9-10 games, there is no escape. A typical tier 9-10 match. Fill your boats, have a read and................ 1st player has the FDR and hidden stats. Guess how good he was? Not very...45% and came last in the game, just wow. 2nd player is all sorts of bad. His first game in the Georgia and will be a lucky gem for any team he get placed in. Next time it could be yours. 3rd player has 155 games to his name and has 4 x tier 10 ships with stats no words that can describe. I have more damage in my tier 2 DD. Roll up, roll up. 3rd player has an avg fag of 0.1!! That takes some going that one. Take a look at those stats again as seeing is believing at tier 9-10 chaps. 4th player is shocking but has least tier 6-7 avg damage stats. He is a keeper that one. 5th player needs no introduction, he's simply toffee. Thank god he's brought a tier 9 Georgia with stats like those to get used to the game. 6th player is confused again, misclicking a tier 9 ship he brought instead of going into a tier 6-7 game. 7th player is good. Yes ladies and gents, that is the bar in this game at the moment and I would be happy having him on the team. No really, I would be very happy in fact. 8th player doesn't disappoint with stats like those. 121 battles and has the Mino, what can go wrong and who is gonna die first? 9th player has a whopping 33814 games! Dear god above, wow. However he/she has learnt completely nothing. All those games and has 0.2 avg frag 11,425 damage and a shocking WR! Best player on the team by far, lol. 10th player has an average survival rate of 10% and he is in a DD ladies and gents. Any crusier wanna support that? I think not Jonnie. 11th is good. Ah, another average player. 22 battles in the Kit with a WR of 27% in it. At least he farms damage in the back with HE (which he did). And finally number 12, second to die behind the Mino and how spectacular it was. Drove out of his own smoke and hit a torp. 422 battles with 5 tier 10 ships. He is the kinda DD i want in my team! So how do you think it went? We butchered them and lost 2 ships. Now this might all sound incredibly patronising and elitist, which I certainly am not, but these are the kinda players YOU get in your teams..This isn't a one off screen shot, these are your norm. So when you think someone will support you, or tank for you, or smoke for you or simply stay alive to win on points.....THEY WONT. They have little understanding of the game never mind knowing what the spotting range of a Fletcher is or the Gimmick of the Z52. This is tier 9-10 ladies and gents. It gets alot worse the further down you go. I had to kill 3.1 ships per game in ranked to pull these kinda players over the line, kicking and screaming, to a victory and even then half of them managed to throw the game. They couldn't find water if they fell from a boat. Tier 10 is not in anyway shape or form the end game or where "Good" players hang out. WG themselves stated that tier 10 has no baring on skill. Tier 2 or tier 10, they expect the same skill. WG love it, oh they love it because punters and whales, kids and people with more money than sense will simply buy ships they are completely incapable of sailing. They don't know a thing about the game but here they are with a tier 9 ship. They then wreck the game for you, your team and any shred of quality left in this game has gone. But hay ho, WG gets to buy up all the property in Cyprus, including it's bank and milk their customers dry until there is nothing left. Their happy, they probably own the hotel land you will be staying in on your holidays. So, going off on a bit of a tangent there...Do not relay on anyone in this game but you mate. Learn the game, try to enjoy the game, div with a good group of lads, join a clan that helps its members and have a laugh. Red.

Really? You D$N% right i'm gonna hit that DD in a Thunderer, Conq, Bourg, ect ect. HE loaded if I seen it coming and did the DD vs DD spotting maths. AP will do if I wipe half it's health out! DD's win games. The faster you take the DD's out, the quicker and more likely you win the game. You've been playing this game for a while, you should know. 30 second reload for proactively taking out a DD in one salvo is far better than 4-5 salvoes at a BB. Kill the DD's/Cruisers first in a BB.