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You are comparing Carriers to Artilery and this by itself is a mistake. At higher tiers my Lexington at tier 8 loses 1 squadron on a perfect approach towards an Amagi tier 8 BB. By perfect I mean no mistakes and the torpedoes are aimed well. Usual result is 1 or less than 6 bombers returning. I tried torping a Yamato, but sadly all my bombers died before I got close enough to drop the torps. Situational awareness is all you need to deal with Carriers. Lower tiers are there to teach people to play Carriers, to teach Destroyers to aim torpedoes..... and most importantly to teach players to evade. At the higher tiers Carriers are so screwed by the AA buff that was given that the amount of active Carriers is SAD. From tier 6 AA is decent enough. Unlike Artilery, You have ALL the power to prevent the Carrier from sinking you. You don't need to look at the planes all the time, but you have to be aware of them. If you are playing a BB ALWAYS know that you are a target, if you are a Cruiser always know that the Carrier will target you if you put yourself in a position to be vulnerable. At the lower tiers you will die, but you will also have to learn how to prevent the situations that killed you. You are inexpirienced, the same way there are Carrier that can plant 10 torpedoes in you, there are BBs and CAs that can evade ALL of the torpedoes(I have been on both sides) .

As this may sound as a whine thread, I asure you it is not. Whit the big AA buff that BBs got, what I can notice as BB player at the moment is, a bit of imbalance in roles. While before i'vs seen CA's with 20-30 planes shot down, I can now in an Amagi get that as average result and I know AA get stronger with the tiers, but now I can easly take one 1 TBs squadron out before it drops it's torpedoes and damage the secong squadron. When I was playing my Ranger I did lose 2-4 planes on a solo BB, but this is a bit too much. I can be effectively attacked by Lexington and Essex captains as an Amagi captain. I think that the AA buff should be toned down to 50% of what it curently is. Cruisers should keep dominance in the AA department.

Hold Ctrl and select the squadron you want to target.

I had to read this twice. Carriers are capped to 2 per team, with any setup Carriers are capped to 2 Torpedo squadrons. 2+2=6?

The game is a bit over a month into Closed Beta, there are plenty of guides that cover all that you need to know. You chose to complain while having very little knowledge about the game.

Learn to play! Lower tiers are Torpedo spammy, but also a good place to learn how to avoid them. They did make AA effective to the point where higher tier games lack Carrier players.

Langley is there for people to learn how to play them and for the others to learn how to evade. From tier 6 and on AA gets very strong and cruisers get the panic skill. On a Battleships your best fighting in ranges of 7-14km if you want to score decent amount of hits and be able to evade incoming torps. Or you can stay at max range and "snipe" if that's your thing. Your expirience is of a low tier player meaning you are commenting on low tier and generaly bad ships, up the tiers you get more secondaries, module, skills, etc. A Myogi may not be able to hit anything with secondearies, but an Amagi will kill Destroyers without you knowing it.

How well will you enjoy a match if your main role was of a spectator?

One thread to whine for all. +1

My point is you are nowhere near expirienced playing a class to call the thing that killed you OP. What everyone that makes whine/nerf threads and complains is that they preceve themselves as the most skilled players and what killed them is OP or a cheat.

You have less than 100 battles in a BB and 0 in a CV and I'm damn well sure You don't get 1 shot in a BB much less a CA if you pay attention. As a CV I know that if someone is moving in a straight line even tho my bombers are on top of him, he will DIE. As a BB I know that if I tunnel vision and not react to the bombers I WILL DIE.

The problem is not with arm time, but reaction time. I KNOW you see the Torpedo Bombers form 5-7km away, but you wait for them to drop the torpedoes before you start evading. Before you call anything OP, try and see what you did wrong and what got you killed.

As I have said before, it's not a BBs job to evade everything, but to minimize the damage taken.

No. It has everything to do with skill, because if you are turning while the bombers are coming he will have to reposition the planes for a good run all while under AA fire. Also a good CV player will see right trough this and drop the torps in a way to hit you. I've played up to the Amagi and I know how manual torps feel and if you are prepared to evade you WILL evade them. This is your mistake mate. You wait for the torpedoes to hit the water and then turn the ship. The moment you see the planes from 7km away and closing you start turning in towards them. Looking t your profile, I can guess that you are very inexperienced, so go out and every time you die analyze what mistake got you killed.

You have a problem with skilled players. As a BB captain your job is not to evade all torpedoes, it's to minimize the damage taken. Same way there are skilled CVs, there are skilled BBs that evade damn well. You have to start turning as soon as you see the bombers coming your way, NOT coming for YOU, but coming in your general direction.

As usefull as it is, it won't pay the repair bills and sure as hell won't make any money.

Cruisers are meant to have strong AA, DDs I'd guess are still a non factor for a CV captain. And I am repeating myself like an idiot, the problem is that BBs now have the same AA as Cruisers before the buff. A BB can now move alone WITHOUT any Cruiser providing air cover.

No one is talking about scouts. The problems is that BBs are now destroying the same amount of planes that Cruisers were destroying before the buff. All a BB has to do now is stall the bombers long enough for the AA to destroyd them, not EVADE torpedoes, but DESTROY. The only problem was at lower tiers where there was no AA and CVs can circle around ships without a care in the world.

Cappy play is not WG's fault. You play well you get paid well.

This was a fight 5 minutes ago. Amagi againts Essex. Almost all of the time I was alone, that's a tier 8 BB and tier 10 Carrier. Talk about placebo.

It's not a placebo, because i have played CVs and now that I am playing BB I can copmare the expirience. As a Ranger captain i used to lose 4-5 planes attacking an Amagi, but now as an Amagi captain I destroy 2 squadrons easly. Going from 5-6 downed planes to average of 15-20 is noticeable. It's a good buff, but I think that it should be toned down starting from the Fuso and going up the tiers, plenty of AA starting from tier 6.

I had 3 turrets blow off by 1 salvo. Have the turrets been tweaked or something? Notecing huge increase in the amount of critical hits on turrets and haven't had many games where I don't lose a turret.

If this is not banned is thing going like this: I'm gonna take this aiming tool that negates all the skill that is needed at ranged gun fights, then I'm gonna take this e-peen measurment tool(XVM) and I'm gonna beat everyone over the head about how "good" I am and how much better than them I am. And whine like a baby and insult everyone when I get killed.

I have played Carriers up to tier 8 and not once have seen my planes do the attck move on the ilistration because they have set distance they have to travel before they drop the torpedoes. What happens in the picture is possible is the BB captain is moving in a straight line and the CV captain gave perfect lead to the Bombers. Please do not question my skill with CVs when you have 0 games in one.

As douchy as it is please You and Djerin play few games in a Carrier before you tell us how they can do impossible and unavoidable attacks. Any player that has tried Cvs knows that this is crap. You need to play the class you bash, because you need to see how it plays before you make up things.