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I agree with your disagreement, but the point was the actual reward system put in place by WG. I don't think we are talking about individual altruism and sportsmanship, you see? Although I would love to have players who think like you for team mates, every single game, you can be sure of that mate. What matters is WG preaching to the masses with the rewards system. The damage and kills are presented as the very apex of your performance, as far as the game's feedback after every single game goes. Many thousands of times for a lot of average Joes out there. I can only imagine the effect on gameplay this repeated feedback (I would even say conditioning) has. But I don't think it's particularly surprising either. It's the case of every class in the game. WG is just balancing it - putting it in line with their grand narrative of damage über alles. Why should one class be different?

Apparently, it is. Discuss (or don't). Original Post:

An exert from 0.8.4. patchnotes: "The individual fine-tuning of the ships is out of the question for now. For example, first we need to find the optimal balance of air defense and aircraft losses at each tier, and then, if individual aircraft carriers lose too many aircraft, we can individually increase the survivability (or, if the air defense of individual ships is too weak, it can be strengthened)." I do appreciate the honesty ( I really do), but this is pretty grim. I know balance takes time, but so does building a rollercoaster. What serious enterpreneur would send their customers for a ride on an unfinished rollercoaster? What's the reason the rework was rushed so hard?

Yeh, Willem's lost twin who wears beanies exclusively.

Oh boy! The game is playable so everything is in order. I see it as a grim issue as the game balance have been turned inside out, mostly unintentionally (at least that's what I read from the official WG responses and Q&As). If you admit that you just can not fine-tune ships, because the game's state doesn't allow for it - that doesn't scream "cheerful" to me. I used to be an optimist regarding WG's actions. Slowly but surely, my optimism immolated and I have risen from the ashes as Negative Nancy, the pesimistic nagger. And not even your avatar of Daniel Defoe in a beanie looking slightly perplexed can't cheer me up.

Excellent. that is .... acceptable. I Indeed missed that change, thank you guys :)

It's super simple: You just have to make a typo and there you go :D

Could be. Still, I don't see this as a reson to rush the rework. I have been wrong in the past, I have to admit :)

I guess I would still take it if it was 7,5% instead of 10%. I think the area grows exponentially if you increase the diameter of the circle, right? So even a 1 km worse concelament means the actuall are from which you can be spotted is pretty hug,. Correct me if I'm wrong (geometry, and math in general, were never my strong side.)

Well, this makes sense. Although I still think way more work could have been done - balance wise. Do you think they just couldn't see how strong the Hakuryu was at the time of release? It was pretty obvious to most CV enthusiast from what I've read. Anyway, thank you for your input, very appreciated.

Hey! Stop harrasing this precious millenial individual! He is just living #histruth

Noted and fixed. I see where ou're coming from but... I don't think rushing the update makes much sense then. Who would want to buy a clearly broken product? The only way this makes sense is if there's too much pressure from the marketing department (which could very well be the case).

Or, and please bear with me this is just a crazy idea, we don't. Lately I get more joy by playing with wooden ships while taking a bath (which is pretty pleasurable regradless, tbh). I don't think a want to be beta tester again (now without any reward, on contraire mon ami, I even had to pay for a respec and demount).

Legends and WoWs will never be merged. WG also discarded this notion some time ago.

Smoke is supposed to work on planes? How did I miss that meeting? I should get up the speed it seems.

I guess your planes have been spotted by someone else? You should not receive any AA damage while unspotted, right?

I was just about to post the same gif in reply to the exact same post. I see you are a man of culture as well.

Oh I see. Thank you for cementing my opinion.

The reason being?

Yes, keep adding more proof of your poor, undeveloped character please. I am getting more triggered by the minute. On topic: Yes, I was aware of the change, but it does not mean I always act on it. Three years of gameplay under my skin still gives me false sense of security regarding plane torp spotting.

Very good metaphor. Very good mental gymnastics.

Being a part of the vocal minority, I do agree. I also appreciate every feedback we get from the WG PR, and staying respectful within the bounds of communication is imperative. But I don't think we can get away without passionate criticism. Can you imagine how would the game look like without these "dramas" happening on this forum, and other social channels? Remember the Graf Spee Christmas? We were about to get spoiled hard if it wasn't for the (righteous) fire that broke out on the EU cluster. I know opening old wounds might seem unnecessary, but you know what they say: If you forget the past you are doomed to repeat it. I care immensely for the game - thus all the energy and time invested in this forum. The point to all this is: if a certain change (in this case the GC rebalance) is a deal-breaker I sure do everything in my (very limited) power to not let it happen. It's not a popular job, but someone has to do it, right? Or maybe you feel completely differently, and you're extremely satisfied with the path we're treading.

Seems cool to me. I don't see any ad hominem remarks, unlike in your previous reply. Anyway, to stay on topic: Your idea is bad.

What? You have been schooled heavily by @Bear_Necessities and he kept a cool demeanour at all times - but feel free to giggle away. To quote General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay Melchett (born 1845): "If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through."