GrossadmiralThrawn

give the torpedos Shimakaze damage... when they are so slow that they are near impossible to hit consistently their damage won't matter. with 25 knots and a long minimum drop distance, it's not unlikely that a moving ship will relatively easily get away... or just get into the minimum distance and laugh as they are just swallowed...

the Z-35 MIGHT be worht Tier VII... if, like the Z-39 it keeps the Tier IX Module slots... MIGHT be worth it... unlikely...

actually, they hope that Players want the modules but are too lazy to regrind. So that they spent money on dubloons to convert Ship XP to FXP and then waste their FXP to skip the grind. Maybe also buy some credits on the side to buy the ships to get teh RB Currency

das sind derzeit afaik die offiziellen Werte von WG "Ihr wolltet unbedingt Deutsche Träger":.. ja ich sehe soooo viele die dt. Träger wollen... so viele mehr als DD, Kreuzer oder BB/BC Split... wäre Typisch WG tbh

yeah, but they won't float around for long. Proper mines would float there til the end of the game

proper mines would be more useful... you could drop them in front o the enemy and have him just cruise in... or just use them as Area Denial...

i like her as well, hence me saying "good" instead of some of the other stuff that i've read about her were "useable" was the best rating she got...

The Z-39 Is good, but "excellent" is imho an overstatement. And the only reason it is is because they didn't change a bit of it when they moved it from Tier VIII to VII...

jup, und dazu steht da auch noch "Tier IX", könnte also das gewesen sein, als sie für IX geplant war und mit dem Runter Auf 8 haben se nochmal... umkonzeptioniert... Die 13.700 Torp DMG sind ein schlechter witz...

Wouldn't count on it though...

no, both of that is compensation for hte high Torpedo DMG. See High Damage doesn't matter if only 1 plane survives to drop and the torps are easily evaded!

nachdem was ich im Englischen Gelesen hab, scheint sie 13,700 zu haben, warum auch immer da 38k steht... dem letzten würde ich eher glauben als 38k Alpha... zumal die 13.700 perfekt ins bisherige Bild passen da 700dmg weniger als normal... außerdem ist das jetzt ein 8er DD

1 Million credits... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

hey, i'm not really a DD player, though i like most of my Prem DDs i really need to grind the german, US and Japanese lines further..., and as Tier IX Freemium i had planned on purchasing the Z-35... and now that it ain't Tier IX anymore and with those crappy stats? WG could put all the code of it on an USB stick and throw it into the garbage can for all i care.

it should be noted that 13,700 is 700 dmg less than normal German Torpedo damage... I could KINDA undestand 6km with an INCREASED Torpedo Damage and maybe higher speed (70knots?), not 7.9km DD concealment and more gun alpha... kinda funny... German DD's overall... pre release: CC and Testers: "Good ships, not OP or UP!" WG: "NEEEEEERF!!! ON RELEASE!!!". Z-39: Planned as Tier VIII DD. wasn't good at it. Instead of buffing the stats they turned it into Tier VII... fair enough. Z-35: Planned as Tier IX DD. Stats are seemingly atrocious and it seems worse than the aforementioned Z-39... now Tier VIII with still crap stats. Potential german Tier X Prem DD: Stats on Tier VI niveau?... It seems WG went: "T-61 is actually good?! We need to screw over the rest of the german DDS!"

Z-39: Tier VIII geplant, auf Tier VII runtergesetzt um zu funktionieren (gut man hätte vlt. auch die Werte hochdrehen können...) Z-35: Tier IX Geplant, schnell auf Tier VIII runtergesetzt "um zu funktionieren", mit Werten unter aller Sau. Dt. Prem Tier X DD: Tier VI Werte. Wird schnell auf Tier IX runtergestuft

friendly reminder of the German DDs... Pre-Release: CC/Testers: "Ships are great! Fun to play! Not OP!" Wargaming. "LETS NERF ON RELEASE!!!"

Theorie: WG hasst die Ju-87

Slowest with the SECOND highest damage... which won't mean much if it's extremely hard to hit anything with them because even a 3 legged donkey with 3 crippled legs can dodge them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o7dkC8XWJ4 WG: "NEEEEEEEEERF!!!"

6km Torpedos... aufm dt. Zerstörer... mit immer noch "nur" 64knoten.. noch den Rest überprüft... OK das ding scheint ein Fall fürs Abwracken zu sein...

keine Ju 87... aber ich wette die Soviets werden nahezu unzerstörbare IL-2s kriegen das kann ja was werden...

wrong. The comparison is wrong. Wrong. wrong. wroooong. As you may have noticed: it's "Graf Zeppelin" and "Admiral Graf Spee". It's not "Ferdinant (Adolf Heinrich August) Zeppelin", or "Admiral Maximilian (Johannes Maria Hubert) Spee". So the Tier X would need to be called "Freiherr Richthofen" or "Rittmeister Freiherr Richthofen". Or like Tirpitz, Bismarck, Gneisenau, Scharnhorst, Derfflinger,... simply "Richthofen" and from what I've seen so far, and those planes are not helping the case, WG should've let the CVs on the drawing board and given us a DD, Cruiser or BB Split for the Kriegsmarine... don't worry tovarish. Stuka Never existed. But invulnerable IL-2 will be THE Bombers of the Soviet CV! yes. it looks like extreme crap... too bad, I was kinda excited for a German Tier IX DD... for Free XP I'd have taken it... but with that stuff I wouldn't take it for FXP on Tier VIII, let alone Cash

Abgesehen vom Einheitsmaschinengewehr 34

356mm Vierlingstürme.