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That's why I said t9-... And be sure DDs gave me nothing but the 80ish for the win so they actually drops the averages earned from BBs. The easiest way to get achievements are the British BBs, followed by ships with highly accurate mega alpha strikes then secondary builds. Even in a lost game in Yamato I remember doing 300ish just from achievements and kills.

Oh, we are on the right way here... Now exclude t9- and take into account that 3k is not what I've ended up, but rather something I can prove and you will realize that an average potato like me, can actually do 200-300 points in t10 BB.

Oh, you are a stats guy... Can you explain me how exactly you got my recent T10 BBs or even T10 general winrate and kills? Do not mix stuff from grinding and playing T10. And your calculations miss few additional components like missions, achievements etc. P. S. I do not care for your answer. You can check my t9-t10 stats for the 4th day of the Victory competition + a screenshot in "your biggest achievement today" thread with mine 3k points completion. Grinding points for the event in T10 BB is easy as walk in the park, but how would you know.

Could you elaborate why?

You doubt that t10 BB can dev strike, first kill and get Dreadnought or you doubt that I can do it?

If I play t10 exclusively - average is 200-300 per game so every 2nd or 3rd game is 500ish.

https://wows-numbers.com/ship/3551409616,Neustrashimy/ Looks like the sells are not going well.

You are right, but this intensified a lot after the CV "re-work". It is like 3-4 times more often now. I rarely see a game after 0.8.0 where a team is spreading influence all over the map. At best you have a split, once one flank collapse the other is doomed. It's very sad to see 9 ships wiped by 4 and those 4 charging your flank when you hold 3 vs 8.

I do not have problem with the CVs either, but I really dislike what they did with the gameplay - players clustering and lemmings trains of long range spamming morons. Ships should have counters to planes - the panic effect for instance was great.

BBs are least class affected by uptiering in t8. CAs are the most affected as they lack all: healing, concealment, range and DPM. P. S. Wanna play planes - go World of Warplanes and leave ships alone.

Actually that proves that CVs have no place in game. MM is fine more or less. I get fair amount when i am bottom, mid or top tier when I play t6-t8.

Yeah, I think I will buy few more premium containers so I can get Lazo today... They also gives nice flags... The early preview missions is of less importance... But it's a nice bonus if you get them.

Which proves that most of potatoes stay with honour and some of them just stay with the winners. Unfortunately, I saw even CCs switching sides yesterdays... Something I couldn't understand as this guys usually make way over 3k points and the reward for a win cannot compensate 77 more tokens given in extreme difficulty

Wrong, you do not need to switch 3 to 3 days. People just need to select one team always all of them. Yesterday Glory won with slight margin just because of 300% point boost and because people decided to jump on winning side. P. S. There would not be a chance for glory yesterday if 80+ % players stayed with honour. Even 300% bonus wouldn't compensate that. We saw it in Go Navy!

500 points are one good t10... But yeah slackers gonna slack.

Works for me - one day I will get a lot of tokens in a lost. But I dreamed for a while that the average population will figure the benefit of just ignore one of the sides.

I would personally preferred if honour stayed on max difficulty - we would get almost x3 reward for normal one. Yesterday got 121 tokens but today the slight increase for glory do not worth it. If one of the teams stay at extreme difficulty we will get a lot more of tokens even if you can't do the 3k it still worth it.

121 tokens today :) How many team Glory got?

Lazo then containers. Permanent camo would be option but their look... Hard pass.

Do not matter - honour is at extreme difficulty. You can earn 120+ tokens. Even if you do half the tokens you will still get more than full reward for glory.

That tactics solves carrier problem but it's counter productive to your win as clustering together at large groups just reduce your influence over map control.

Agree, but it should be attractive enough to spot them so ground ships could nuke them.

Carriers in current state can amplify or reduce the chance for win if they are good or bad. In RTS form they were able to decide games alone The main problem with them is that the CV have no real counter. The AA model is insufficient - it is either stay in cluster or die. Even other CVs can barely scratch them while they can torment any isolated ship at max range.

They may stay but this will be a mistake. And do not worry once DD popularity goes down the CV state will be addressed. This ships needs serious reconsideration on concealment and anti-air capabilities as currently they are virtually immune to other CVs.

Yes, I should agree the rework fixed a lot of RTS CVs but ultimately this class still have no place in the game. P. S. A lot of arguments is valid though.. Having good or bad CV in your side still decides the outcome of the battle.