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For now. If they prove to be too unpopular because of their lack of DD hurting, they might change that.

I refused to play that tier after weegee changed to matchmaker to favour their most expensive ships balanced the matchmaker.

Dude, relax. I really had no intention of attacking you in one way or another. How did I change your quote btw? Anyway, it was the quote itself I had problems with (and not because you particularly said it, I see it going around quite a lot), mainly the part "better/higher than RTS numbers" - which was according to weegee the main reason to do the rework. What I mainly detest that is that in the RTS days they nerfed the tier fours (did away with manual drops), because of excessive clubbing. Well, the same is happening now (for how long now?), but they refuse any hard nerfs now, cause that would make their overall CV numbers plummet, as well as the """"success"""" of the rework it represents. Also, ironically, you were better off with your AA modules and captain skills before rework, cause even if there would have been less CVs, the optimizations at least did something. Now they are purely decorative :) For your other (good) questions, I once again try to summon mr @El2aZeR, who, IIRC, has already made detailed analysis of such graphs & numbers before.

Yes, if you account for all tier, which is heavily misrepresented by glorious clubfiesta at tier 4. If you look at the high tier charts from Pete, you can see that the rework as a goal to make CVs more popular was a major failure (not to mention the other aspects). I'm quite sure @El2aZeR can fill you in on more specific numbers.

Nah, I don't believe you. WG would only bring out CVs in cb if they were perfectly balanced, and since they have taken over a year to do that, with so much time to only make carefully and fully deliberated decisions, that certainly must be the case now.

OK I'll bite for once. Why do you lay the burden on us? Why is it not up to you to defend your choices? In this case: why do you/does WG think it to be necessary to have yet another weapon to heavily punish cruisers? (you know, that class that used to be balanced around being able to fend off planes?)

Don't forget about "spreadshit says smolensk/cv/... is fine"

You could ask a 36%er for new ideas to implement in this game, and there's a high chance it would be better than most of the sh1te WG special ed team has implemented for a year now. Otherwise, there is zero point reacting to this. They don't care anyway.

Wow. A collection of misplays, almost from the first minute. Expected better from a reroll. You didn't have the match under control. You could have stayed with your shima from the start, which would provide better angles, some protection from the carrier for your shima, where he would have spotted possible torps/dds, etc. Also the hinden & especially bourg would have died faster. Instead you go off wandering off alone in the center, when there's an unspotted DD and a carrier in the game. The only reason you were alive past half the game is pure luck, bb masterrace idiot protection and the enemy CV's extreme incompetence. That alone would have made clear the cv was a total nonfactor. I won't even discuss the situation with the smolensk. It's like you did intentionally your best to throw the game to him, by placing yourself where you couldn't hit him, turning your turrets wrong, etc Let's make this perfectly clear: the only reason you won this game was a the red cv and your shima's. Not you. If it was one of them who flamed you, you quite honestly deserved it.

That's why that smolensk has four kills, and yes, that's all of the kills that team got, and more than double the xp of the CV eh? Maybe you felt that inside all of that anger from the chatter there was a point of validity and came here searching for validation of your own...?

In ranked it could be, sure. With XP nerfs for CV on losses, you'll often lose to the HE spamming thunderer/bourg.

Why would any cv go after BBs? They have the best AA, especially if combined with fighters, they have the health and the heal (on all tiers) to absorb a high amounts of damage and eating some planes while doing it, most of them are far enough from the game to have no real influence, etc etc Instead you can go after DD, and get him killed in a minute, or make him waste precious smoke. Or attack cruisers with balanced AP bombs and instablap them, especially the ones that were a totally no-go zone in the olden days. Or get both classes killed because they can't go stealth in time. See? The reworked CVs are already balanced like that, by design... /s

Audacious is fine. She only seems subpar cause the two others are blatantly overpowered, where Audacious, by grace of being a reworked carrier, is merely broken.

When playing a game full of edit* and you get triggered, go to the next game and: - take out your favourite greifing class ship (i.e. carrier. I wholeheartedly recommend Enterprise) - pick a target and start the greifing - wait for him (or her, we are no sexists) to start venting in chat, and report for misbehaviour in chat - tell them that WG said that "they just need to adapt and get better" - see more ranting and hope for other players reporting too - go back to step 2 See? It's all about spreading the love. Edit: Language please

All in the same game, I (in a smolensk) met, on the opposite team: @lup3s in his lexington, and in a div, @asalonen and @HMS_Kilinowski in DM/shima Alas, it didn't help - smolensk prevailed. As it should. I serve the soviet union.

Yea. "optionally"... The right answer is CV + whatever, preferably not a DD

Izumo is a fine ship these days. Problem with tier 9 is that it is infested with bowcamping tardships like JB & musashi and teams that always give up most of the map so those ships are never in a crossfire threat. In such a meta you need overmatch or smt that can spam HE. (or even better, some nice skypox, which loves bowcamping reversers, especially when they start raging)

Da tovarish. Stealth radaring cruisers with fast loading shells that hit DD easily because extremely high speed. Good good. DDs have been having the easy life for way too long now.

Don't care about the nationalities. Do care about them not having smoke - which is the same reason I never went for the french DDs. I see a lot of ppl saying that carriers aren't that big of a problem for them in those dds, and maybe I have a wrong picture of CVs by playing them myself (and seeing the likes of @El2aZeR in action closeby), but as a matter of principle (and sanity) I refuse to play a game where the balance is a result of pure RNG (i.e. the chance of there being a cv x the chance of said cv knowing what he's doing). It's garbage game design. Also seeing them in action on streams I can't say I find them attractive.

You had enough freexp to do that? That's around 3.5million freexp.

Yes, indeed. It is remarkable that nobody in Star Trek TOS even mentions 9/11 anymore...

The Surrey (t7) and if I had 10 tokens more, the t6 as well, though that doesn't really matter of course. Surrey seems decent at first sight.

Maybe you should start trying to carry eh, scrub? Nice work from the atago though

1. People refusing to play the game, ending in zero'ing out. Which should be punishable cause that's toxic anti-play. 2. Total roflstomps. My first game today: I have serious questions how people uphold their averages in certain ships (cheers to @MementoMori_6030 btw, I couldn't say hi back, eternal chatban) 3. (edited) goddamn bowcamping meta

Easy to see. They had a bb that saw he was one of two top tier BBs, with barely one DD threat and only a mediocre CV threat, and said to himself: this is my chance to shine. Your top tier BBs meanwhile went searching for glue or smt. Looking at that lineup it's hard to imagine how they could be that useless (huang he outperforming both of them...) I see it all the time. My last game had one tier 9 BB on both teams (and everything else t8-7). Their soyuz was the last ship left alive, hiding near some island, where he had been sniping all game I guess. When the matchmaking gives you (and I mean, bismarck & north cal) this kind of present and you still fail to deliver, that's very very sad. But the general player has zero awareness of his own role and rather waits for someone else to do it for him.