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what the hell? That's two unicum DDs as top tier and you lost and even got stomped? Cause almost all of the stomps I see are because of either team's DDs getting obliterated quite fast (or being useless), having mostly shima's is bad news in that regard - sometimes because of vastly superior CV in one team. (Not a guarantee though, ask @El2aZeR ) edit: just notice the rest of the comp. Both teams only have one top tier BB, and yours was useless, which probably prevented scaring away nasty red cruisers - especially red balti might have had a bad influence? Just speculating here.

Sounds like something straight out of Sun Tzu. We might have an unknown genius among our midst.

Well I'm watching as we speak for the NA vs EU memes. Theres 13.5K viewers on wows channel, close to 3K on flamu. Not gonna check other numbers. For WoWs standars, those are impressive numbers.

Good player from an old and respectable clan giving up on the game for now. I for one am glad people in his situation make it public with a statement, cause imho a lot of decent players already said "no thanks" to the t(a/u)rd meta and left, but we don't know. Given what kind of big and free attention WG gets from things like KOTS, which is solely by the "elitists", they should better try to give some more care for the "normal" everyday state of the game (i.e. randoms), and make sure those players don't get driven away. Followed of course by uplifting comments of that kind of people who for some reason don't like people attacking said t(a/u)rd meta... Yeah what a wonder.

I have a hard time understanding how and why so many people voted no. I agree with the OP, it is unappealing AF. Every high tier game, whatever mode is campfest galore, but on standard it reaches new grounds. Given that most of the time I can join a game any moment of the day almost immediately, I wonder why WG is so resistant against experimenting with the matchmaker - in this case: giving people the choice to opt out of certain modes. AFAIK that's possible in WoT. @MrConway ?

??? You call minekaze okay and fubuki & akats total trash? Whatever went wrong with you? I'd say either fubuki or akats is the highlight of the line for me. Only one I didn't play is shima cause I threw yugumo to the trashbin where she belongs. (I'm taking matchmaking into account here btw) Fubuki has 300 meters over her higher sister, but akats also has decent firepower on her guns. Both have 3x3 torps, which are vastly superior to any 2 times x format, and have little over a minute reload. That together with the regular tiers they see where not everyone and their mother is reversing 23 km away, makes them quite fun. Minekaze on the other hand is the poster child for "midtier trash".

song? what about a suicide note I leave just before I blow up myself in whatever mental ward/sewer/... the shima playerbase resides...

Sure, you'll do that once and all games thereafter he'll be borderhugging. Have fun wasting 10 minutes to go after them then.

About the same feelings tbh. Did both the boats (how do you have more than barracuda and gerluwhatever?), and I found it boring in the first game after around 3d minute :/

I'm not saying I'm playing her as a capping DD. Haven't played her that much yet, so I'm still trying to figure out what she is supposed to be. Can't say I'm a fan of having role switches in the same line. For now I've been trying close range support for capping DDs. So you would advice besides that to play her as being in the other ru dd line then, just stay long range, speed/dodge evade and be an annoyance/deterrent?

I haven't played it a lot, maybe not even 5 games. I like the amount of shells, which compensate German (tr/l)olshells, but oh lord, that maneuvrability (or lack thereoff) AND the amount of side you have to give to shoot your shots... Though I didn't immediately dislike it. But as with all german BBs, she has the meta against her, bigtime. Quite weird that only with the GK in my possession I came to appreciate the Freddy's agility. No dodging a full set of close range neptune torps with GK... I know radar has been discussed too much, but I'm not of a fan of the radar flood, and until it gets fixed (together with BB AP) I am barely touching DDs. I'm just doing the Ruski's cause I need to finish the line. I think I like it even less than ognevoi, which I quite hated, but you can still spot/cap with 6.1 detection and spam them "questionable" 55knots torps everywhere. But Udaloi has 8km torps, and gun wise it's ok, but everyone and their mother is spamming them new IJN and Brit DDs, which just rape you. And with bad stealth also no influencing capping with udaloi :( Had a shima recently who I thought I'd support at the cap. Of course he kept sailing behind me all game... The game had me made pink after that for some reason.

It's EU4 that I'm playing (again) recently yea :) I also liked Hoi3, but that's a while ago. Hoi4 has become too kiddy friendly for my taste. Yes. They'd also probably advise you to use the ingame report system if you don't like something, because it's the same level of usefulness (hint: ALWAYS use the "misbehaviour in chat" one, even if the guy you want to report e.g. is AFK/killed a teammate or whatever, cause it's the only one that might have "real" results) (you're right about the new IJN line being retarded AF btw)

Especially on high tier, that's not how roflstomps are to be measured. Ships there have to much health/are too powerful to get regular 12-0/1 results, not to mention people often die to get some damage in when on the stomping team. Heck I do that myself sometimes cause winning with let's say 50k dmg is effing sad. Although that kind of results themselves are way too common. Stomps are more defined as the game being absolutely decided in a few minutes. Best indicator is one team losing all of its DDs, which in general means a (very ironic) "gg". Also some team positioning, you can find nice examples in the "sad and funny pictures thread". Another extremely good indicator is the team which has the most shima's, the quality of which has gone beyond the meme. Blobbing on certain maps has become so much more common than it used to be. E.g. having 4/5 of your team camping one of the retard islands north/south of C cap on sleeping giant (WITHOUT moving up even if the enemy team only has like 2/3 ships there); A cap on mountain range; C cap on warrior's path etc etc etc Or another thing that has become much more popular, (almost) the whole of the team blobbing just in the middle of nowhere, just waiting to be raped from the inevitable multiple angles. Sigh. Same. I was working on the German BBs, RU DD(-groz) line and IJN BBs. While in the end I didn't hate the Freddy anymore (it's not a bad ship as such, the meta just hates it, though I still went full secondary) and I got the GK, I'm at the Izumo and the Udaloi for the other lines, both are unappealing (udaloi in theory could be an ok ship, but you're dependent upon the other DDs, and the DD powercreep lately has been phenomenal) So that's all meh lines in addition to the tard meta, both of it makes Jack a dull boy... Only thing that keeps me going is I still got around a month of premium left, and it would be somewhat of a waste not to use it, though I don't even play daily anymore. For a game which has so much potential I find this very sad. Luckily there is another publisher that also likes its rip off schemes, called paradox, which has way better games to waste time

Most ancient threads get necroed because some chap doesn't realize it is ancient, and is genuinenely hoping to be useful in his/her respons/question. Should have known your reason would just be none/useless.

Meh, not broken enough to justify buying a t8 cruiser.

Correct. It's one of those things, the main thing in fact, that is killing the joy in this game for me. The game at high tier already is so campy and passive, and recently with the yamato/musashi spam (still so many ppl grinding yamato legendary? dno) you can't really break a lot of tactical stalemates with a reversing bowcamper on every angle. Add to that the (not that recent) addition of demo expert nerf and especially fire prevention, it takes half a game to burn anyone of those down, not to mention the BS battleship stealth that allows them to disappear. Like El2a said, carriers can't arrive fast enough to end this. Not only the meta, also WG's designs (that are then the "reason" for said meta) They wanted to make the front of BBs significantly weaker (even citadellable?), but that idea got thrown away before even tried because BBaby outcry. Then the addition of ships that amplify that behaviour - every ship with 2/3 of its gunpower in the front will just be used in this annoying way - and a lot of them are premiums which get played a lot - e.g. Musashi and Missouri. The Bourgogne will be exactly the same, just as a lot of Alsace players already do, not to mention the Jean Bart who has ALL his firepower in front. Those Frenchies have of course even something extra to prevent punishment above mentioned stealth and fireprevention, and that is with their speed they can reverse so fast that you'll never really outflank them. As if BBs needed more incentives to be braindead accessible...

We were on the same team doofus

No, cause "hints" are too subtle. Make it 5 times as big, with neon flashing, with text "BBs NOT ALLOWED" and that would be a start. When 2 bbs go anyway, thirteen bot midways should appear and launch their strikes at once.

Met @Earl_of_Northesk in a Richelieu, who was hoping it to be his last game in it. Was in a div with a @El2aZeR and driving an ognevoi, which I too could get rid off one game later. Good heavens cause that boat has nothing going on for it.

Cause idiots who literally want to sail into my guns with a passion isn't called carrying mister ;)

I took out my brand new Kurfurst (third game I think), we met @Excavatus and 2 of his davy buddies (sorry, don't remember your names ;) )

I understand what you're saying yea. I should have said: it's probably the most OP battleship tier for tier :)

Tier 5 cruisers in general are not capable of holding up against tier 5 BBs. That only changes at higher tiers. Especially julio cause almost cruiser dispersion and stealth. Julio = Julio Cesare, a tier 5 premium battleship. Probably the most overpowered ship ingame tier for tier. One of the ships recommended to you, but not for sale at the moment. Here is the list of ships playing sprint, listed to popularity. Oh no, what a surprise.

Battleships yes. Don't go cruisers cause they're just food. Best one is Julio, Texas might be ok'ish I guess. Only other option is DDs, but also only premiums. Cause balans. (this balans )