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You forgot a bazillion quotation marks and a few trollfaces

What now? You are not joking? Not just out of entertainment, but also just curious, why would you say Russia has better ships & subs? I mean, I'm not that knowledgeable about current state of affairs in that regard, so I guess their subs could still at least be dangerous, but their surface fleet?..

You could ask for an exchange with the G Cesare? That ship is way more balanced...

Pepsi probably?

1 Can you knock it off with your obnoxious remarks about my or any else's (presumed) lifestyle. You don't know me, at all. You are both pretending to have the moral high ground and giving that kind of intented insults... "Sad", wouldn't you say. 2 It's also quite "deplorable" that you automatically presume I'm not capable of transcending my own view point (though by now I really get why you would think other people to be like that (too)), by assuming I am defending my own "subgroup" (or whatever) vs "athletes" etc. I couldn't care less, neither about gamers, neither about athletes. I'm just making the point that you could argue that both have the same claim to merit/fame/whatsoever, and that there is no objective ground to differentiate them. 3 "I actually pity such folk:", "it's really rather sad" There we have it. It is just about your feelings, and that was all what it was about all along, as I said before. YOU FEEL one group (athletes) being better/more justified to X/.. than the other. YOU FEEL the other group (gamers) being deplorable sad idiots with whatever sad lifestyle you implant om them. That's all it is. The only way you can try to "objectify" it, is, like you do, involving other people's feelings too, where you involve "society"' (or at least your phantasied version of it) and its feelings towards Ali. Might be. But what if gaming, which is by far the biggest entertainment industry, just keeps getting bigger, and for the next generation some gamer will have the same fame as Ali? There's already now large groups of younger generations who will be more familiar with their gamer of whatever niche than Ali, maybe don't even know him at all. (news flash - yea, Ali too will be forgotten. You think the 19th century didn't have someone of his calibre?) 4 You bring in Trump/Brexit etc. and even state "actual facts" (which you, of all people, should really not do) That's cute beyond belief. You didn't even bring in one single fact since this started. Not a single one. You brought in your feelings, and some personal anecdotes to ground those feelings. Reminds you of other people? Trumpers/Brexiteers bring strong feelings and grave insults onto the table. (It's frowned upon by most people btw) Reminds you of someone? And lastly, the most defining aspect about "trumpers/brexiteers/a whole of other S in our society" is people to divided to even momentarilly suspend their own belief system and listen. I did listen to you. I recognized your feelings, said they were just that, and brought real arguments, ie "actual facts". You ignored that (you didn't even try to read the article for example) and just retweeted repeated your feelings, and threw in some stupid insulting remarks as finishing touch. Remind you of someone? Not that it matters. This will all just bounce upon that nice big wall you have built around you, in which you can just keep repeating your own point, telling yourself "but I'm right anyway, cause I say so" and that everyone who disagrees is a sad sad f*ck. But come on, you can at least give one more snackfood reference, or something about basedwelling, or some other nice stereotype? Show us how you are the one that isn't "sad", or "to be pitied". It's extremely impressive how you can be so blind for all your BS, and at the same time blame other people for doing it. Did you also box and have your brains blown into mush?

Well this response was on my list, but I hoped you at least would try to articulate some kind of thought. By the way, technically, you didn't continue anything, you just repeated yourself. As you did with the denigratory remarks, couldn't even try to find some new wordings there?... Also, I'm hoping I'm not the only one seeing the irony in such denigration, coming from someone who is assaulting other players for their so called sense of superiority and entitlement...

Dear god indeed. Let me analyze your response: --- [Expletive, rhetorical purpose being indicative "there is no talking to these people"] [Repeating the point [ie your FEELING that there is no difference] I just argued against] [Personal anecdote that has the rhetorical purpose of claiming some kind of authority to your feelings] [Denigrating remark about one of the groups of the point, handily also rhetorically used against me/other people here present involved in the argument?] --- You see you added nothing new, right? You already stated earlier you felt there being no difference. I gave arguments against that. You ignored them, and just repeated your feelings. Not to mention your denigrating attitude. Nothing new of course, people here "arguing" without even making a single argument. Only interested in spouting their personal feels ad nauseam, immune to every rational criticism. The only thing you did is worsen your case I'm afraid, cause at least you gave some criteria to fulfill, though unintentionally, i.e. "hard work" + "dedication". Here, this is literally the first google reply I could find. Have fun. https://www.theverge.com/2014/7/21/5919973/inside-the-life-of-a-pro-gamer So where's the difference now? (hint: there is none, it's all in your head) (And if you were to response, I'd be careful, cause I know what you are most likely to respond.)

Quite sure the Phoenix was never hated as such. Probably the stock version is, because, well, it is utter garbage. If I remember correctly, you have to have it fully upgraded to have the gutboat, which can be quite a chore if you just start the game. Fully specced the Phoenix is better (tier/tier) than the Omaha, because of protected matchmaking.

Except that @Bergham is right. It's not just "a" comparison, not even just a "valid" comparison, it is exactly the same. (Also, @GrumpyRolf made a valid comparison, but you guys apparently have decided for yourself what to accept as comparison, let alone a valid one. Let us know when you have rewritten the world's dictionaries and encyclopedia's) So many people in this argument will eventually go to the "this is a game" versus "that is the real world" argument. (which is arbitrary to begin with, but I won't go into that (cause some people might not understand. You know who you are Mister "if you disagree with me you have a mental disease")) Sport is just a game, simple as that. There is zero value in it in what you guys call "the real world". Sure, some might get real world rewards, media attention, etc, but that doesn't change the point. Usain Bolt runs. What can he do with it, "real world" wise? Catch some wildlife if he ever gets hungry I guess? We had a female boxer here in Belgium, she was a pro, earned titles and medals, but didn't earn anything really with it. She was still a cop to pay the bills. She did all the training and matches in her free time. Please tell me the difference between what she does and any other hobby? A decent stamp collector probably earns more. Sports are games. They have no value except what the sporter/gamer enjoys out of it (active/inward) and/or what other people enjoy out of watching it (passive, outward). That's why for a while now there are movements to propagate inclusion of "e-sports" into the Olympics etc. So to make the "comparison" complete, what we have here, are something like football teams who win an award, and bystanders getting pissed because they don't get one, even though they could have joined a team themselves.

But didn't it always have sonar already? (Not saying that makes it any less stupid btw)

There's been posts of people spending around a thousand. And that's only the few brave enough to admit that. Working exactly as intended. First time I could ever say that without an (implied) "/s".

Seen some of mine already appear Marblehead Nurnberg Hipper And last but not least Conqueror (What? Everyone does hate her )

El2a says you're welcome.

It doesn't, really. @El2aZeR can explain you more. You can launch ("spawn") planes, but AFAIK they'll just guard a specific zone. (or you can make the game crash, but that's quite advanced tactics) As in "an asset for the team"? It won't. CVs now will be what all other ships do, or what WG wants us to do, and that is to boldly go and farm damage like there's no before. Sure, you can send your squad for the DD, but if you'd rather farm other targets,... (so have fun when you have the CV that only wants to strike BBs, while the enemy one goes for the DDs first, keeping them spotted in the process. Good thing WG is working on the skillgap, right?)

The exact same reason I take her out so often. Play some "normal" ships, too much losses because sacks upon sacks of potatoes. -> Take out Belfast, who needs team anyway.

Some strange things here at first sight. So the total battles is for the last 2 months, right? That's way less belfast games than I would have expected (compared to fiji ones). What is the 7th column ("battles")? What is the 19th column ("agro damage")? Wiping the floor indeed, regarding winrate, an impressive 10% difference. I'd say a lof of the fiji players are less experienced (from looking at hit ratio and survival difference), no to mention belfast's exquisite (and perfectly balanced, da) anti dd tools. Also, kek at that double avg plane kills :D

as your post makes abundantly clear. Thanks. I didn't have a replay, since I switched to Linux this weekend, hence why I asked your colleague to do it. 10k battles, not knowing how the game works nor about certain rules. 10/10. Thanks for the admittance though. @MrConway?

Without offending anyone?... Don't retarded people have it hard enough without us comparing them to the average WoWs players all the time?

Then it was your teammate. I did not. I said "oh no a triple BB div", when one of you asked why I said "most 3 bb divs are braindead", which 1 is true, and 2 wasn't meant to your specific div (look up "most" in a dictionary) It was up to you to prove otherwise if you really wanted to take it personally. You failed. It was bloody Ocean map. You shouldn't be out of position to begin with. Not to mention if you stayed reasonably close to my lo yang, I could hydro'd any torp threat, and it would have been an easy win after I capped B. But yea... Anyway, if you think you have a point, send your replay to WG? Please? edit: Yea, that's not saying a lot... He spamming cruiser overpowered? I can find you a BBingo card if you want.

You mean the one where I was capping both A and B in my tier 8 DD, and pinged your triple tier ten BB div multiple times, to indicate to go in better positions than the map border? Which then, as you express it, "tilted" you, so you shot an HE salvo in my boat, dropping me to barely any health left and making you pink? Yes that was me.

Very true, but it's not only that. There is a substantial portion of (dd) players out there who aren't even aware of radar, seeing DD's smoke up in front of (spotted) radar cruisers etc. And those that do, don't calculate for the repercussions of it (sailing too close to (obvious) islands when the reds have multiple dm's/woosters) It's one of the things that depressed me when in another post the Z52 was indicated as the lowest wr tX DD, way after shima. Cause with my experience with it, I'd say around 20% of DDs are simply unaware of its hydro. Could be more, I'm guessing low.

It would be nice if you watch the vid before sidetracking this thread to a topic that wasn't the point of it, nor of fara's vid. Elementary politeness, no, to engage in a conversation only after knowing what it is about?...

wut? You didn't sell your clubfast after the unplayable 5etc km smoke visibility nerf? It was always somewhat weak to begin with anyway, lacking fiji torps and heal.

Been like that all night. Nothing but braindeads, in any shiptype. Had another one like that later, also in asashio, against @GarrusBrutus, where my missouri ran away from their mino.