ThinderChief

Game became real memory heavy with the previous update, after today I saw some improvements, not by much but better, i'm waiting for my Corsair DIMM shipped from Taiwan today...

Thanks! It was meant to be one of my tX, I think i'll stick to N-C and play Des Moines in tX.

​Agreed, I depends not only on the ship's guns but also on the map, on some it is real hard to hit anything consistently from long range, (what your team needs is constant and as intensive as possible fire support) on some it is much better suited to doing just that and not getting ambushed by BBs or DDs. When I comes to guns, I chose the US line because of their gun characteristics, like I did playing tanks with a Chinese medium with (from stock) average gun accuracy, I maxed out my crew skills and the gun itself have a hell of a pen/damage capability, it works, on the other hand it won't take much punishment not even from other mediums. I play my North Carolina the same way, I figured it can citadel nearly anything at range because of the ballistic and weight of the shells, but same here, while it's not always bad, it's not the best ship for close range especially vs those German BB who will torch you with secondary HE fire. Understand, it is a choice I made based on the way I like to play, choose the gun, ship and develop from there, since i'm new obviously it's very much touch and go and I learn the hard way but what I do is deliberate and planned, for as long as I can put shells on target soon after reload I am doing my job, the only issue i find with max range (other than unsuited maps) is speed, if the fight progresses forward, you're slow to regroup and your team misses your gun for as long as you're not back into it, it's a question of feeling the game and how it evolves, anticipating. Then comes de Des Moines... You can also eliminate campers invisifiring and spamming HE from behind irelands or smoke screens while you're a it, many doing so because their gunnery skills are rather low otherwise, if they dont carpet bomb they can't hit anything. Different set of skills, different ships and guns, different game play.

I can remember playing DD and engine boosting to a spot which is normally safe when you have support, guess what? Of course there was another DD, the red one, from WoT I have some 1vs1 good skills, I could have dispatched the guy especially because I was in a position to fire my torps and he wasn't but first we were there exchanging gun fire. Then TWO Cruisers appeared to support him, I got hit of course before I could torp the guy, I was hitting F7 like mad at the same time, NO support, so after they finally got me I blow a fuse and asked W.T.F were you? I ended up been accused by some over-rated genius that I "ran into a torp", well done. I was stationary in the smoke screen, if they had engaged the two Cruisers we would have got the position. So the blah-di-blah about "how to play" stops there for me, in reality they do what the hell they want and expect you to follow their ways, give THEM support, MUNCH up the threat, soften THEIR targets to get their kills. Me? I play support role, with a Cruiser like the Baltimore I stay around BBs when there is a carrier to provide AA, I chase DDs to help ours, engage whatever come our way in the same way, so my stats and the lectures I couldn't care more, been told "you shouldn't have been there ALONE", sorry I understood YOU SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED SUPPORT BECAUSE THE TARGETS WERE THERE.

​I don't need your pity nor your opinion on my stats or my play style, if I did I would have asked for it, which I did on topics of the ship I use and frankly you're out of touch with reality, I develop MY play style after choosing the right ship for me, I don't need to be told off by you or your buddies do you copy that? Now pack up the stat lovers attitude and figure out that not everyone is YOU and that I certainly do NOT want to be YOU and if possible at all to play like you, i'm big enough to make my own choices and considering how irrelevant your advises are in regard to how much egoistic you are when you play your games, sorry i'm certainly not going to join your club. Have a nice day. And for the record, I had Air Force flight instructors, one ranked Air Region General and Flight Test Center Chief pilot I can tell what it takes to make a good one, you guys doesn't have what it take, you're not the right material and take yourself WAY too seriously, you are much to narrow-minded. The world doesn't evolve around YOU. I pass you a tip I got from them: The day you stop learning you die. So get on board today's lesson, you DONT know everything or "how to play a battleship to the full extend", they're ALL different and need to be played differently, it's ego-tripping and kiddy's plumbering comparison here, wrong topic.

Blah. How to according to your bunch is worth a full tanker of laughing gas m8, you base your "expert opinion and analysis" on your own experience, you're not me and you dont have MY set of skills but yours. So i'll take it as it is and keep doing MY thing according to what I CAN do not what YOU would like the rest of the world doing. None of you uses aimbots? You're kidding me? Not only you're one of those stats believers but on top of that you take people for idiots, sorry, cheats exists in this game too, been there, ware the T-shirt, so get over it. And something else if I want to improve anything in MY play i'm not going to ask for YOUR opinion and advises, I hope it is clear enough to you first time, you want a clear reason for my stance? READ your own comments. "how to play a battleship's role to its full extent". How arrogant is THAT? As if you would play efficiently every BB the same way. Get a life. Yes cooperation is an issue, they can come up with every example they want NO ship should end up isolated, those who follow the guys who knows the guys because this guy have high stats can pack up their opinions, when I see an isolated ship I go for support whenever possible, what am I supposed to do? turn away (like some do) to try to regroup with the pack? When I see a target I engage, it's seek and destroy for me, I didn't know camping behind a cloud of smoke or an Ireland, carpet bombing an area with HE required more skills than manoeuvring to snipe at 12/15 km, not my cuppa, sorry. I expect the same support from the other team players, it is often not the case, so lectures on how to play, de grace, I know where to ask and it's not from guys who are going to play the ship I chose for their guns/shells characteristics and manoeuvrability like they are the most armored in the game.

That's plunging fire, if you want to cit'em you need range and on the USN BBs it works very well because of the "weird" ballistic of their shells, i'm a newbie and the highest I've been is a North Carolina and Baltimore, but both have this long range citadel hitting capability, with the BB heavier shells you should be able to pen them from whatever angle. ​It doesn't make much sense since it's in plan over the 3D XYZ axis, your shells are gonna come at an angle closer to the vertical, lower velocity at the end of their trajectory increases it, it is even visible with your naked eyes, you can fire passed this bulkhead in these conditions. Reduced combat range? How so? If you keep your target between max firing range and detection range you're already in the bracket of lower velocity of the shells on any US ship, at 12 km they're on their way down with angle increasing fast, so yes it does exist but not with every gun/shell, it depends on its velocity and weight. What I have figured out as a newbie is that aiming makes the difference. I tried the water line, It causes little damage, but if you aim a bit higher, so as to get your shells to hit the deck then you pen it and with a number of hits, if you pen you will get through to the citadel. In fact, it would be interesting and perhaps very useful to have some extra details on stats, such as: Who kills what, how many rounds were fired, how many did hit on this particular salvo, from which distance, what was hit (damage/module). Then people will be able to maximise the efficiency of their gunnery. (if you could suggest that to W.G after testing btw it would be most welcome). ​Same conclusion here, exactly the circumstances and same ship (NC). I recognised the ship and remembered that I had learned to my depends that i can't pen them at the bow so i tried to hit the front turrets and it works but of course you need to keep them beyond 12 km range if possible, when they are broadside it works even better.

​Exactly my point, some ships are not designed to get close to anything because they do not have the secondary or armor, like tanks, different vehicles, different doctrine of use. It's like some WoT players calling AMX30 players "campers" because they snipe from a distance, but they only reflect the way the tank was conceived in the first place, fast positioning and long range engagement. In the case of USN ships in general bar perhaps DDs, plunging fire is more efficient than any other form of firing and it requires range and more skills than most players have to be effective, I like gunnery, it's my thing ship or tank, accurate gun or less accurate I snipe and with a good team can get results, so I chose the ship/tank for the gun and work at my hit ratio. Too bad some Cruisers can't reply, they don't spare you when they can spam you from behind smoke screens/irelands and set you in fire, I bloody hate this sort of play style but I don't write numerous topics on the subject or call them campers, which they are by definition. btw, as a BB you do not have the right weapons to support DDs, it's our Cruisers jobs, it's already hard with faster firing guns at closer ranges...

By doing this you also take away one of the strong points of USN BBs and to tell you the truth, with the number of German BBs now in the game, I tend to keep them at this sort of distance and engage with plunging fire, trying to avoid being hit, I score more than one citadel this way. I killed a couple of them close-in, but generally with the amount of secondary they have they will win, even if I start the engagement with a lot more HP, so my position on the map depends on that of the adversary, if they are very aggressive and take the initiative and positions, then it's hard not to be seen as "camping", in reality I engage a longer range. I play North Carolina btw... ​Because according to you, taking more damage than necessary is "doing something"? Well when I play aggressive and get killed by all those you mentioned, including HE spammers, invisifiring spammers, and the rest of them spammers, i'm a noob, you guy need to make up your mind. The reality of "firing at other ships that don't have the range to shoot back" is called sniping and is a lot more useful than the solution you propose especially against a good team of those no camping campers, because from my humble PoV, camping involve seating in one position and spam amo at targets that can't get to you with return fire. EXATCLY the list you brought forward. So I don't see WHY firing at target (and actually hitting them which requires a lot more skills than HE-carpet bombing and area a mid range) is less useful for the team and closer to the definition of camping.

I laughed watching the Dunkerque video but for the record, at more than 10.000 KIA/week, the French army didn't exactly fight backward, at least not on their own, remember Dunkerque.

​No unfortunately I failed to get the hang of it, at times I preferred other options but I understand that it can be useful and will try again. For the moment, since the last patch I struggle with technical issues because I believe that it is a lot more memory hungry, while previous to it I could play with low ping and lag and reasonable frame rates. So i'm stock playing tIV in Co-Ops while my North Carolina and Baltimore are rusting in port, unplayable, I am no genius but always manage to bring some damage to support a team when the game runs smooth, right now i'm mostly killed on the grid without even firing a shot, looking at the loading screen, it doesn't help the team, costs me and is very frustrating. So Corsair DIMM it is (hope the support doctors didn't diagnose wrongly and that it is not a file corruption, server or broadband issue), I have to wait for the postman. Thank you all for your insight, I started to develop a "supporting" play style mainly due to good guns and excellent AA suite of the USN Cruisers, so I try mostly to stick to that, offer an AA cover to my team mates, mainly the most vulnerable, chase DDs and engage whatever bigger than that comes in range. With gun skills I develop in lower tiers at the moment, I apply what we call a "yoyo" tactic in flight sims terms, or repeated hit and runs, trying to keep my target within my max detection range and max firing range as much as possible, and get in range to shred those bombers if needed, when the game was smooth for me I managed more than a few citadels this way so I think it works, we wont mention AA, you know what it can do. For the close up fights I will have to learn later and your tips will be very useful. Cheers and long live Baltimore and Des Moines.

I think this new release is a lot more memory hungry than the previous. I could play games all day long without problems before even with a "marginal" specs system, but now, i'd be lucky if I can play a tIV game in Co-Op without lag at a reasonable frame rate, good thing i like playing my Danae that much and need to train her Captain. So OK, I need to splash some dosh into some decent amount of fast memory but it is an issue that perhaps W.G should try to asses, so as not to force players such as myself to spend more than might be necessary if the game wasn't that tad heffy... For the ret I think it is one of the best games I've seen so far, when it runs smooth, graphics are fantastic and play gam is great, pitty I can't enjoy my North Carolina and Baltimore until I get this Corsair DIMM from the postman.

If mm was working this way I wouldn't be below 50% win ratio, or perhaps i'm good but teamed up with bad teams if I follow your logic?

We already have a major mm issue with W.G, between the pros, the semi pros, wannabe pros, stats lovers, and the rest of them with a special mention for bot users and HE spammers specialised in invisifire because they can't hack it with gunnery, newcomers have a hard time, be it with WoT or WoW, it's like one can't play a F1 game because the front grid complains they're too slow. W.T.H??? The attitude of some is quiet arrogant btw "noob", "troll" etc they blame whoever they can for not winning it or getting themselves into a trap when the red team is equally good or better (yeah cr@p happens to those guys too) and behave like they know it all. At times it's plain funny, the guys who knows the guys follows the guy, and the guys who knows the guys who knows the guy does the same, everyone is behaving like they lack initiative and imagination and you end up with everyone but you and the other newbie on the same side of the map, "your fault" of course if half of the red team is waiting to pin you down, two easy kills, NEXT and yet another loss. So my attitude toward that is I.D.G.A.F.F "stats", it's a game, I play it, end of debate.

Well, I don't know why so many are spamming HE to torch you then, I always say it compensate for the lack of gunnery skills...

Engage. It's a game, you wont get hurt, only your pride might when someone stoopid throw your "stats" at you if they are below average but I personally don't suffer from this syndrome and I don't care much for stats. In one game I was teamed up with a DD between two Irelands vs 3 other Cls and another DD trying to kill him to take the position, we lost him and I but we stopped them flanking the rest of the team and killed the DD and a Cl in the process reducing the threat and health of the two other. All the guys coming to the rescue had to do is to finish them, two Cls can well do the same vs a BB, so sure it didn't look good in the final result because I didn't last long enough but it was way better than let them flank us and take the spot altogether, they failed doing both and we won. Some calls me noob or troll whatever, I'd engage a BB on my own if I feel it will help the team, sure I call for help, if the guy is not stupid he is going to try to get me and you can only dodge as many shells, if he took the choice to respond to another threat, then i'd give him a run for his money, after that i'll keep him busy, basically out of the game. If you're good with a gun or have long range torps you can do it.

That's what they do. Compensating for the lack of gunnery skills? I guess so because apart for carpet bombing an area with HE, they generally are not so hot with guns. Note that I had a LOT of fun with the Black Swan due mainly to the excellent guns it have and enjoy the Caledon almost as much, I have nothing against British ships, only the way some guys are playing them, spamming HE like mad, a game spoiler if you want my humble opinion, and yes I agree if W.G changed their mind about it then it's a commercial coup, does little good for the game itself.

Yes but absolutely non officially and mainly by the retired vets, I sailed with one and it is some kind of affectionate nickname, the French Navy is and stays Marine Nationale.

I figured that the freezing, out of game throwing and the rest of it might occur for particular ships/tiers? I have been unable to play my tVIII and tIX, namely North Carolinca and Baltimore, killed "on the grid" a number of times etc and it got worse since I followed Support's advise on re-installing the game. So I tried Co-Op battle back to tI with the Black Swan, ran smooth and fast, high frame rate etc, tried tVI, same thing although a Russian tV caused me trouble as well in my last game but not to the same extend than higher tiers, which became unplayable. Then it though OK i'll give it another go, went back to Random with the Baltimore, wham bam again, TOTAL black out from start, I was left with only the loading screen to watch and breaking sound, the only ship NOT in the game after 5mn, I had to reset my PC after I eared the sound of the ship sinking. So since I've done a complete check (broadband, virus, graphics, drivers, apps, defrag, etc) I know it is NOT coming from my PC, now, since I keep throwing dosh at this game I would love it if those issues were sorted so I can enjoy the game with my best ships and keep progressing. Right now, since the last update it's hellish, I can't learn anything by looking at my screen and not being able to play. Note that I also tried to play twice the same tIV ship, once in Co-Op then went back to random resulting in TWO totally different games, the first was smooth and fast, the second froze after a mn into it, files might not be the only issue in hand here... Is WoW going to support any time soon? Thanks!

I play the US line the most, torps are not as good as the Japanese but AA awesome, if you can stick to an escort and support role, hunt DDS and Cruisers, support BBs with your AA humbrela it's satisfying, they are fast, maneuver very well (Baltimore is real good for its size but it's a tIX) and gave excellent guns, USN lower tiers are also enjoyable to play. BBs will obviously chose you as priority target since you'll be easier to hit than DDs but if you keep speed and S.A high, you will be able to evade their fire and even give them a good run for their money but be aware, like DDs, a couple of hits will delete you. The reason why I choose the US are their guns, as I am not too keen on torps and anyway at higher tiers they have none, the focus turns to AA and gunnery.

I tried a game in WoT to see if I had any issue, not a glitch, it runs fast and smooth, this only happens with WoW now, I had such issues before playing WoT but they are long been solved. I was unable to play a single game for the past 12 hours without high ping, low frame rate (we're talking 10/0 fpm), total freeze (stock on one frame sometimes with no sound) when I was able to get into the game at all, the number of times i get my tVIII/tIX killed on the grid is ridiculous. I tried everything, 3 re-install, defraging, updating drivers, using optimised graphic settings (NVIDIA GeForce Experience) lower than those I used so far when the game was running smoothly at times, broadband benchmark, antivirus scan, increasing my virtual memory X 15, cleaning files in C drive to make more room, even over-clocking my graphic card (It's under-clocked from stock so it can take it well) etc. No luck, this game is totally unplayable now and I have thrown more than a few bucks in signals and doubloons, so what is WoW going to do about it? I'm seriously considering returning to flight simulation, but it's not going to be W.G and it's free, so guys if you want to keep your customers get this sorted please.

Yeah, reminds me of a DD rider complaining he wasted his last smoke for me when I was le last heavy in the game, he wasted it alright, literally on my bow, sorry I have no brake chute and I was trying to get behind an Ireland to avoid being torpedoed so I had speed, his action actually distracted me and I failed to spot the shooters. Some guys doesn't think straight...

Stats! like I CARE stats, you got no better to throw at people that stats? Two things, for one I do not use aimbots, AND I don't spam HE. Your due respect is relative to how much of that you specialised on, and someone with my gaming knowledge can't be made responsible for the lack of support of those making an habit of following each other like sheep because they have no clue what else to do or are prepared to let one side totally uncovered because they're afraid of "dying". So pack up your stats thing, I do not suffer from this gaming syndrome and when I see a target I engage, same for support, if it needs to get closer to the threat and I can end up cooked up as well but at least I try, if you don't and prefer to get your remoras to soften your kills spamming your targets with HE, that's your problem but do not bring stats in the equation. Now, I saw better players than you saying that generally, a game where everyone goes the same side ends up in tears, and so I saw too many of those, your point is nil, and my respect for guys who chose to offer NO support but follow the other sheep who follow the leader who might or not know WTH he is doing, is certainly not owned by this behaviour, nor the HE spammers who CANT pen or shoot straight and need to carpet bomb an area to get their stats high. Sorry, I don't play to brush up and bring up my stats, better Againcour a thousand times than playing like the English.

Got killed 5/6 times without having been able to even start to play today, after fresh install, once, 4 times in a row, it starts to cost me... I checked everything, W.G is the only connection i have issues with, it's NOT my system even though my Graphics are marginal specs from stock, i over-clock and when it is stable the game runs just fine. It becomes unplayable, lag of hell when able to start at all, one thing; camo and A-C comes sometimes after more than a mn into the game, i dont think it's my system doing this, there is NO feed from server.

It doesn't work, plain and simple. Following support instruction i DID re-install TWICE, but now, i have 5 or 6 times been unable to even start the game, last one i reconnected only to ear "the ship in on fire". Sorry but i have thrown good money at this game and not to see this happening repeatedly. You guys need to sort out your server issues because it is NOT coming from my system or connection, i only have trouble of this amplitude and frequency with W.G ans WoW in particular, WoT works fine and smooth.