_HomTanks_

Exactly.

That's where you need to improve yourself. You gotta know what's in the box without opening it. Joking aside, they treated you as if you bought boxes and then regretted buying them and want to return them now, NOT as someone who wants to return them because of the false advertising which they will never admit because admitting such a thing would have consequences for any company. Best they will do is "Guys, guys, you created such a sht storm over the weekend and it is really baseless. We don't have a short list, for instance (let's make it up) X amount of T61s and De Grasses dropped from the crates while Y amount of Makarovs and Z amount of Californias dropped that are much lower. We are really sorry that some of you had inconvenience with the Santa Crates. We checked our system and spreadsheets and everything is working accordingly. Please note that we will be following up this topic and let you know once the Santa Event is over." Meanwhile they will keep selling sht tons of rigged crates. This is my guess of their possible response although I hope i am wrong.

This dude dropped Makarov on his both main and alt account from the crates. Although his alt account had only Tirpitz as a premium ship, he just happened to be too lucky to drop Makamaka out of 106 prems and then California and then an SC just because he re-rolled the three prem ships out of 107.

From my personal experience of Snowflakes since the first time they were introduced, didn't get a single ship all these years. Prem time, dubs, flags, camos, etc. but not a single ship. Snowflake crates have extremely low chances of giving ships in the first place compared to santa boxes or other real money paid crates. From this perspective i'm sure the amount of people who drop ships in snowflakes will be much less and hence not enough sample size to compare results.

"We understand some of you might have gotten these ships out of the containers but according our spreadsheets this % of getting said ships is okay. We can't show you our spreadsheets now but you need to believe in us".

Orkan, ochakov are not low tiers. We know what you are saying and it is different than what this thread is about.

Going through the correction path would be not only very costly for them but also admitting publicly they did false advertising (or whatever the technical term for this is). This crate RNGs is not as simple as "Oh sorry guys, apparently our coding is messed up, we will fix it asap". Program delivers accordingly how it is scripted. Hence, they will 99.99% deny it (since no one knows the crate scripts but them).

Yup, good point. I had all those ships except California, Ochakov and Orkan. Yesterday morning before this thread and Flamu's video was up, i bought 20 big crates with some of the doubloons i have and guess what ship i got? Yes, the one on the short list of big crates, Orkan. Besides getting it, i played total of 16 games with Orkan since yesterday. I was gonna play a couple games only initially but as kept having CVs in the game one game after another, i went on playing it. This afternoon i reached 16 games straight in Orkan and all of them had CVs (one game with double T8 CV). I will continue playing until i run into a non-cv game because this smells fishy to me...It's becoming too many of games to be a coincidence.

Because they used to inform public about the possibility of crate drops before and then start hiding this info for the last three years and now it's exposed?

Sure but in the meantime they don't put a hold on to the box sales which they could until "they will address it asap next week" anyway.

I didn't watch the game at all, only the chat!

Not removed and link is below; https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/sales-and-events/we-are-many/

Guys, one thing though. Some of you are breaking the forum rules by using profane words and sharing customer service responses which will prepare a base excuse for getting this thread locked all with 20-30 pages. Keep it within the limits, don't give them any excuse for locking threads.

I noticed the moderation includes many bots deleting messages quickly that include certain words in their filters like makarov, yudachi, santa, crates, etc. But if you write m.a.k.a.r.o.v or mcarov or mc arov and keep playing with the words, they don't get deleted

They don't wanna hear anything about Santa, crates, Makarov or other ships. Feeling guilty apparently.

Got you! How dare you write about crates infidel!!!

Someone wrote "world of censorships" and it got deleted immediately (wrote "message edited by the moderator") lolol.... EDIT: So, i watched the stream like 10 minutes now and around every 5th-6th message was about rigging, makarov, yudachi and others, all these messages got deleted by moderators. Gj keyboard warriors, keep trying to shut people up. EDIT 2: Stream chat has been like this for long time, many messages are being deleted, even the ones asking question about crates;

Because someone from head office needs to tell them what they should tell to community but it's weekend. I don't think they can come out to public and say what they want without getting an okay from the HQ.

I had 13 games straight CV only games in Orkan. You had CV in 15 games out of 16. Well, that means either everyone started playing CVs all of a sudden although i didn't check the weekly stats or there must be another explanation (other than that 0.00212312431243 statistical percentage). EDIT: @DFens_666 Played 3 more games with Orkan and all had CVs again. Total 16 out of 16 games had CVs in Orkan, mostly Tier 8 CVs followed by T6 CVs and only a couple of times T10 CVs.

Played 3 more games in Orkan and all had CVs which makes it straight 13 games with CVs. Let’s see when it will end.

So I got Orkan yesterday, yea unsurprisingly a short list ship, and played ten games with it in two days. All had CVs, one game had even double T8 CVs. I’m not sure anymore that the MM is totally random.

Same here. I also owned Duca d'Aosta, Yudachi, Vanguard, Admiral Makarov from past years. This year bought 20 big crates and Orkan dropped which is on the short list of big crates, rest were flags and camos. No other ship, no prem time, no coal, no steel, etc.

In 2017 WG informed what one would get out of the Santa crates for almost 100% which means they pretty much confirmed or gave away the odds of getting a ship out of a crate. In other words, they informed that the crates are rigged and leaning towards these certain ships mentioned in big-mega boxes. Buyers didn't complain about this announced rigging because they knew what they would get out of a crate. https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/sales-and-events/we-are-many/ They didn't inform public about their rigging anymore as the info about which ships are to drop in crates more likely than others disappears in '18-'19 and '20 pages. Thus, you can't say it was always the case. They left you in the dark. You don't know if it was always the case or not which is a very shady approach by WG. However, as you noted people noticed more and this year specifically it is exposed and became obvious that WG kept their short list since 2017 but didn't inform public about that. I don't know the legal sides of it. What i can tell you is this is a very dishonest approach and once again it confirms people's thoughts that they are unbelievably greedy.