Kirasa

CV aren't going to be improved with 0.5.2 in any way, they just get a major nerf with the patch.

If you stay away from the front with your CV you are playing it wrong. 12km Detection range with it? BE at 14km from the nearest enemy.

Not really... Currently (before the patch) a BB can evade torps if no one else spotts them for him while not getting hit by one... BBs are WAY too agile atm.

Damit man nicht gefokust wird...

You will almost not feel the change to ruddershift. Also Torp Detection stays the same if you don't want to use the Concealment upgrade...

You will almost not feel the change.

And another one who starts evading when the torps are 300m next to his ship in the water instead of when he sees the planes on the horizon, when he SHOULD start evading.

So much wrong in this post, and that from a CBT player... CVs are NOTHING like Arty. BBs are Arty. So, with that out of the way, apparently you don't know that it's max 2 CV per side. From T4 up to T10. Hard to believe, but true. That maximum was introduced very early in the development for it's own reasons and has stayed since then. The same is true for why only one CV can be part of a Division. As for why there are so many DD in the matches atm and so few CV, you can direct your thanks to the BB and DD players. Anyway, as for the topic: Hiryuu is in no way OP compared to Ranger. The stats show those two comparable on all fronts. Ranger even gets more xp on average than Hiryuu. As for the IJN TB planes. Yes, those need a major buff. Does 0.5.2 bring them one? No 0.5.2 is a major nerf to IJN CV, the additional waiting time when a squad is destroyed is almost negligible for an USN CV, while it's a lot for IJN CV. If you can't work with the USN deck layouts maybe you should play the IJN ones instead? USN CV were AS CV in history too, that's why they have a focus on fighter and DB. But hey, that would mean you can't farm for the only useable CV in the moment, Midway, anymore, eh?

Ein einziger Spieler, der das Match wirft, weil ein Addon am Anfang anzeigt, daß sein Team nur 34% Gewinnwahrscheinlichkeit hat, ist einer zuviel. Solange das möglich ist, sollte solch ein Addon einfach verboten sein.

It's just that they don't HAVE time. If they take too long the whining about "OP" CV will be unimaginable, just because a) people are used to them being weak and any usefullness will be seen as OP and b) by then no one of the good CV players will have any desire to play them again because the next nerf is just around the corner to make them weak and useless again. And it's not like all current CV players would be able to make full use of how CV worked back then. That's the whole problem with the mess we have. At the start of the OBT only those with hundreds of CV matches from the CBT played them. Which made them look too good, even if it was just pure selection bias. Anyone with even a small clue of statistics would have thrown WG the stats of CVs into the face and told them to not look at those for at least three months after the start of the OBT before they even dare to think about changing anything (while completly disregarding anything CVs did in those three months) for balancing.

The squad death penalty is a major nerf and will lead to even less CV in the game. Nothing buffed there...

I had 6 Detonations happen to me in ca 900 random matches since the OBT wipe. So for me the rate is below 1%, which should be around the normal rate overall. If you sail mostly DD that rate can of course be higher due to the weak armor on those and the chance for even HE to hit the ammorack. Remember, most people shoot HE at you, so it's a given that that will happen in the long run. Also some DDs have open turrets, which makes the situation even worse, due to no armor from that vector. And it's historical accurate that your ships sinks from a detonation. It happened often, and was almost always a deathsentence for the ship.

You don't want to open this can of worms...

This thread has a table, the only thing missing is SN DD, which get 5.9km on top while firing: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/14258-basics-spotting-mechanics/

I wouldn't really say that Mirror MM works. We asked for it in the CBT with the fact in mind that IJN would have strong Strike Decks (they don't have those anymore) and the USN strong AS decks... Since one of the requirements for working mirror MM is not in the game anymore the whole MM itself is not working. They just should have introduced Mirror MM in a patch without even touching the strike decks and first look how that works. That's how you do balancing. As for targeting everything: That was the intendent role of CVs, if you remember what WG told us in the start. BB>CA>DD>BB, CV>Rest, Rest>CV So they were just doing their job. Either WG brings us a very big buff with new mechanics for the CV in the next few weeks (yes, weeks, NOT months), or they return to the 0.3.1 CV and start from the beginning. That's the only way to fix the current broken meta-game.

This is maybe true for Midway, but not for the other CV. Why do people always take that ONE CV into every Discussion about ALL CV?

Ich hab ja nicht gesagt, daß das mit 0.5.1 anfing. 0.4.1 war schon etwas, was nie in diesem Spiel hätte passieren dürfen. Und seit 0.4.1 sind die Möglichkeiten sich gegen Strike Decks zu wehren schon gewachsen. Warum sind die also immer noch nicht wieder im Spiel?

Ich hoffe mal, daß dir klar ist, daß du mitm BB mit CA AA Schutz durch die Gegend fahren sollst. BBs, die allein rumschippern, haben ohne wenn und aber in einem Anflug unter Wasser zu sein. Inzwischen haben selbst aber viele BB nen Jäger an Bord, selbst einige DD haben die AA Barrage bekommen. Allein durch die beiden Effekte schwimmt ne Menge mehr AA in der Gegend rum als zu Zeiten der Strike Decks.

Seitdem hat sich aber an der AA Front einiges getan...

Ich sag ja nicht, daß die ausm Gewinnerteam nen Stern verlieren sollen, oder die im Verliererteam einen bekommen sollen. Die sollen einfach dann auf ihrem Stand bleiben.

Du machst auch weitaus mehr Schaden als der Durchschnitt mit deinen CV, kannst dich also zur oberen Klasse damit zählen. Den Schaden, den der Durchschnittsspieler damit macht (und um DIE muss gebalanced werden, NICHT um die Pro Spieler), ist allerdings einfach mal lächerlich.

Das Problem am ranked liegt nicht an den Schiffen, die die Leute nehmen. Es liegt daran, daß schlechte Spieler im Siegerteam nen Stern bekommen, und die sehr guten im Verliererteam einen verlieren...

A CV players is only like 1/4th of the game time near his CV. The rest of the match he is elsewhere on the map while his CV sails around in auto-pilot. Maybe don't be 100m next to the CV so you can maneuver?

WG wird nicht drumherum kommen, die Änderungen an den CV rückgängig zu machen, inkl Strike Decks, Torpedogeschwindigkeit und Rückkehr zur kurzen Laufstrecke der Torps. Sobald das geschieht wird man auch wieder CV im Spiel haben, mit denen vernünftig Credits bekommen, und das Overall-Balancing auch wieder stimmen. Eine andere Möglichkeit das zu fixen besteht einfach nicht. Und ja, CV werden im Schaden dann wieder oben sein, so wie es sich auch gehört. Anders können die ihren Job nämlich nicht erfüllen, alles, was sich wagt kein Teamplay zu machen, zu den Fischen zu schicken.

Installier halt nicht das Tarnmodul auf deiner Yamato, sondern das andere, dann spottest du die Torps genauso wie vorher. Und sorry, aber die Wendigkeit der BBs war eindeutig zu gut. Der Nerf ist Monate überfällig.