Kenliero

Hitrate is very bad indicator.... with some ships, like Murmansk or some Soviet DD(My hitrate with Murmansk is only 28%, but winrate 66%), it is actually very good trategy to burn enemies from logn range, which automatically results to bad hitrate, even if you do good job and get results, you will miss a lot anyways. Then again BB with bad hitrate indicates "sniper", who most often is bad player, so no... I would not base anything on hitrate.

After long consideration.... I decided to drop the whole line... I want to play class that does damage... playing Soviet DD's is just not fun at all... If I wanted to play bad Cruisers, I would just play normal cruisers with massive nerfs... so... better stick to Battleships and CV's that actually damage ships.... Well, at least this supernerf made sure that tiers 8-10 still remain only battleships and CV's, and they are not getting more DD's anytime soon(Which also means I am not going to play tiers 8-10 anytime soon)

Oh, looks like you are better than average player. "I thought you whined because you always fail".... lol... yeah... well jokes aside... you are right, it is NOT fun to play it... it really is like playing bad Cruiser... You are visible all than time and the damage is just not there.... Like I said before, fire chance nerf was just too much... If it actually would lit up fires often, it would actually make sense to TRY that long range invis style, but now it's just not worth it... you rather just go and brawl with Cruisers like poor Cruiser (And you can't even touch BB's really... or you can try to burn one for 10 minutes...)

Lol, sorry.... but well, you know sometimes you get "those teams"

I'm serisously starting to believe that in ranked battles, only the best winrate and damage players should have rights to speak, and they should automatically be captains in their team, in a way that others should actually do what they tell. I have had so many battles today, where I tell them what we need to do to win, but they just camp somewhere in the edge of the map and never do what is needed, to win.... It's so frustrating to endlessly play matches, when 6 other [edited]have no idea what they are doing.... That is also the biggest flaw in ranked games. If you start late, you are stuck with bad players, while the good ones are already progressed to good ranks. There are only braindead people left around ranks 17

My greatest achievement today... was to help my fellow "Forumites"(Fi_8_8_8_8 and Troublemaker) to win

I have now died so many times in my DD, when I lose my engine, but the game does not tell me that right away. There is massive delay, until it shows it. In fast action against other destroyers there is no room for delay like that. I just see my ship slow down and I keep lookign what is wrong, until then it shows engine problem, but more often than not, it is already too late, when you lost all your speed. I could easily press repair button, but how is that possible, if I don't even get any announcement that engine broke!!! The delay is too big between engine breaking and game announcing it. Fix UI lag WG!

Actually the icon below comes quite fast, but announcer sounds comes with quite a delay

Yeah damage is not bad in tier 4 and below, because you are still slow, but after tier 5... your role sort of changes and you go where you are needed, but while relocating, you are not dishing out damage... Of course, you can remain in one flank all than time and get some more damage done, but then you also lose more... I don't know, it just seems it has no role at all... except DD hunting... and I guess that is main reason damage remains slow?

Yeah, you can still do things to earn wins. After 18 games with Gnevny, I am running in 78% winrate(and I actually have done a lot of things to bring win for us), but average damage is STILL only 22k... damage really needs a buff. The role that these things are "meant", is not happening, now I just brawl Cruisers from close range and use fast maneuvering to get things done. long range firing?... nope, not working. FAST relocations to protect for example your carrier / prevent enemy cap -> 10km range and citadel hits to Cruisers = win.

I have noticed it with Soviet DD's and I recently installed Aslain pack, so could be one of those too. I am not talking about 10 second delay or something, but still several seconds. it is not instant.

Thanks for this add-on to my Firefox. Looks like I have been Divisioning 13%. My stats are almost exactly the same, but that is because I have been divisioning with good player(He should be around 60%) and also "not so good" player(His solo games are 43%), which brings it to middle. I do more damage and XP in solo, but winrate is slightly better in division, by less than 1% though... Now... if I would only disivion with this good player, I could statpad like mad!!! haha

Looking at your stats. Are you free XPing every ship? I mean you have just few matches in most ships Also your results varies massively. With Kiev you did 67k damage and won 3 of your 4 matches, while at the same time with Farragut you played 46 matches, did 22k avg and won only 34%. Also, 14k average damage in Benson? What?!?!? How come you suddenly make a lot of damage with Soviet DD's, when they are not even better(Better RoF yes). Your USDD stats are really really bad in comparison.

But damage and KD etc. depend so much on what class you play. I think the best indication is to look at specific ships and see how they work, combining Class, Ships, Winrate AND damage, and then draw conclusion on overall performance.

and that is exactly I have tried to tell those people at WG to increase profit in (mostly lower tier) premiums, because you can do the same credits with CV.... but then again, everyone doesn't want to play CV.

Lol the percentage part.... but to be honest, using premiers is kinda must in this game, because everything is so crazy expensive.

Ok, Now you forget one thing... some people actually "Lose" winrate by playing in division. For example me. Every time I get to division with "certain person", I tend to lose much more often than I would in solo. Also, my friend plays a lot of divisions and he is running "only" in 54% winrate, even by being one of the top 10 damage guys (in USDD) in Europe, simply because he is divisioned by another player(our common friend, lol), who drags his team down. So, it works both ways...

Yeah, they are good in hunting DD's and carriers, but they do not make good damage. In this screenshot of yours, you had only 93 hits, which is actually not even high. Would of been nice to show the actual damage screen, because even with 6 kills, I don't think you did a lot of damage, getting only 1967xp from the game(Good results anyway, thumbs up). You can get many kills by killing DD and low health targets, but you won't do a lot of damage with these ships. That said, these ships are FAST and they are very good in capping and controlling flanks. You can get a good winrate, even without making a lot of damage.

*Updated Concealment Expert 10% bonus "while shooting", which increases concealement even more, when using 5th captain skill

Yeah, I also remember that from his video. I did not take that into account in my calculations. Getting all those skills is a lot of work, and I can see that helping in high tiers, but then again.... USDD's still have much better concealment AND torpedoes?!?!?! So what are these Soviet DD's about? Not fire damage, because fire damage does not work anymore, after they nerfed it. Quite frankly I don't see any reason to play these ships anymore, so I went back to my battleships. If I want to play DD, I would play USDD, because this gunship role is just better in them. My point is, with pisspoor concealment they have, it is just better to play Cruisers instead, because most of the time you are going to be visible anyway

Actually, now that I realized you actually get flags every now and then when progressing in ranks, it is worth it. The ranks where you get prizes are: 18,16,15,13,10,8,6,5,3,2 and 1.... so that is pretty nice. That is a lot of flags. and you can grind ships in ranked as well. Some ships like Colorado are much more fun in ranked, than against Iowas

Unless there is spotter aircraft 11km from you (you would not see it yourself)

I noticed that with Izyaslav, damage was "okaysh", but winrate was horrible, but when I got tier 5 Gnevny, it turned around. The ship became fast, caliber went up, but effective damage went way down. By being fast, I can make big difference in the outcome, unlike in izyaslav, which results to good winrate (73%), but having few guns and short range torpedoes(4km), the damage goes way down. in tier 5 you can not just sail extra 3 kilometers visible to torp something.

I expected a lot from tier 5, but was disappointed in damage(22k average), even though winrate was good(73%). You can make difference in the outcome, but even then damage is lacking, because you can't really use torpedoes in tier 5+ and they nerfed fire chance... By looking at what kind of guns are coming, the damage is not really getting any better at all when going up. Caliber remains the same. It looks like Kiev in tier 7 should be decent because of good concealment, just like Tier 5 is decent, but others... they don't look good at all and good concealment doesn't give you damage...

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