Kenliero

It is not the same as in Gremy. Gremy has normal(old) penalty when shooting(+3.9 if I recall correctly without 5th Cpt skill or camo), unlike the rest Russian Destroyers(who has +5.9km). Gremy was not effected by last minute nerf, so Gnevny is WAAAAAYYYY worse than Gremy. This is how it works, if AFT still works for main guns after 0.5.1 patch with captain skill tier 5 Gnevny: Detection range: 7.0km (camo+captain:6.11km) +5.31km when shooting=11.42km vs Weaponrange 11.9km(AFT: 14.28km) = Invisibility 2.86km without captain skill tier 5 Gnevny: Detection range: 7.0km (camo:6.79km) +5.9km when shooting=12.69km vs Weaponrange 11.9km(AFT: 14.28km) = Invisibility 1.59km so for Gnevny, it is possible to shoot from invis and tier 5 is actually best for that in the whole line.

TO answer OP. You play them for a very very short time, and then you realise that they didnt work like you thought they would...

How is it higher winrate in carriers? For example IJN carriers: in tier 10 Montana, Gearing, Zao, Skimakaze and Yamato beats Hakuryu in winrates tier 9 Udaloi, Fletcher beats Taiho tier 8 Tashkent, Hipper, Amagi, Mogami and Benson beats Shokaku tier 7 Kiev and Myoko beats Hiryu tier 6 Ognevoi and Fuso beats Ryujo tier 5 Minekaze Murmansk better etc.... the same story through all tiers... So, I don\t get this logic of yours..

Pretty much my experiences as well. I would choose Colorado for Ranked battles, because of the small ranges, battles happening in small area near caps, where brawling is the thing... but Nagato is good in general maps/modes with many players. Colorado feels too slow for random battles.

That said. I agree that in Izyaslav, the guns work, even though ship is reeeeally sluggish(they will buff it). Tier 5 guns are "ok", but in tier 6 it's just bad... really bad

What I find extremely hilarous, is that you think that doing 20-30k damage is somehow op, when you can easily make average of 30-50k with all other classes in tier 5....

thanks for info... Strangely though, it does not show current rank?

Yeah, actually I have to agree that Kiev is better, since it gets 2 more 130mm guns. Those 2 are the ones that somehow "work" in that line. Tier 6 is the most horrible ship ever.

It will haunt you.... you will never find out... who.... and why...

Best advice for playing Myogi, is to "Get Kongo"

His winrate was propably bad because he has Atlanta... That is an excellent ship for ruining your stats

If you would increase the amount of credits Cruisers make in tiers 8 and above. It would encourage more Cruisers to high tiers. More cruisers burning battleships from long range, should force BB's to close range. You would solve 2 problems with one strike

2x2 turrets in Ognevoi does 120 000 damage per minute. 4x3 turrets in Cleveland in same tier does 288 000 damage per minute. You lose just one turret(where you lose 2 guns) in Ognevoi, and it does 60 000 per minute... 60k vs 288k? How do you even.... aaarggh... and you lose those glass turrets in every game. Why on earth would you play Destroyer, when you can play Cruiser and do that much better?

I don't know other than this one: http://worldofwarships.eu/en/community/accounts/531174385-SkybuckFlying/#tab=rank/account-tab-ships-rank

I've also come to like Ranked Battles, since you can have more effect in the game. I just wish I had more time to play them. Now after 55 battles I am rank 14 and I wonder if I have time to reach 1 before it resets.... I also noticed that you get a lot of flag rewards when you go below 18, which is nice

Start by watching these

Maximum damage that you have ever done with Gnevny, is 78861, so yeah... BS revealed right there... The XP and credits indicate that it was the game you just showed us. around 78k game would give those numbers in the screenshot... and maximum damage you have ever done in Ognevoi, is 58483... so... oh and please don't start about how you did it in ranked battles... there your maximum damage with Ognevoi is 27042... OMG NERF IT!!!

So.... how much damage did you do?

T5 is playable, but T6 is just worst of worst. You have total of 4 guns in 2 turrets. If you lose one turret, you can't do any damage really. If you lose both, you dont have guns at all. With 4km torpedoes, they are completely useless as well, when you should travel several kilometers, completely visible, to be able to use them... and even then, enemy only needs to turn away from you and outrun those torps, because they run out of range so quickly... Ognevoi is the worst ship I have played, and I have played ships from 7 lines... absolutely ridiculous PoS

Good advice, and what comes to modules, take everything you can to fight against fire and maximum repairs you can heal all fire damage.

I completely agree, and I have said for long time that DD's need a serious buff, but maybe there are just so many bad players that it sort of "balances" it Here is the screenshot of that Colorado game

No, if Mexico would of not run from me, I would of "raped" him much sooner, and their shots were not about them aiming at me, it was about me angling towards them. Even when I was fighting DD, I kept angling to Mexico. Angling in PERFECT TIME, when they were reloaded and only showing my side when they were reloading(or behind island). These things are something that most people just don't get. It doesn't show my speed in the video, but the biggest reason they kept missing, was because I changed my speed almost all than time. In fact I think I was very unlucky to not get any good Citadel Hits on them... but yeah, they should of engage me more aggressively

Thought I'd also post a gameplay with Heavy-Slow-And-Sluggish Battleship.... Same player(me) as Murmansk video, this time using Colorado's strengths in Ranked Battles(Running 67% winrate with Colorado in ranked). Good example how the world's slowest Battleship can completely OWN a fast Destroyer if you know what you are doing, and your TIMING is right. It's all about timing guys... but it needs to be learned first. It's mostly about mindgames, timing, and using your armor.... you mess with their mind... angling and then you do something they would never expect... like stopping your ship for no reason.... but then not really quite stopping.... stuff like that ;) Just check my speed while you watch this match... Also a very good example of how you should not be talking garbage in the chat... so, don't insult players for nothing. They might be the ones carrying your team to victory... Advice of the day And get Murmansk for practice. You also make good credits with it, which you will be needing later.

getting close helps

I think it is part of Aslain mod.... but you know... most of his icons are so weird that I don't even....