IamTroublemaker

IJN DDs (high tier) are the Arty of game (and maybe Midway/Essex). Why you ask? Well. Lets take arty as an example: 1) You cant see it most of the battle 2) It has a slow reload 3) When it hits, it hits like a train and if its aimed properly, you are dead 4) People always have to think you are aiming for them Now, lets see IJN DDs: 1) You cant see it most of the battle 2) It has slow reload on torps 3) When it hits, it hits like a train. If aimed properly, you are dead (any ship). 4) People always have to think you are aiming for them As for Essex and Midway, well, you see their planes, you know you are dead, as even a 100 rated AA on a T10 BB (I know rating doesn't mean too much) won't kill a single of their TBs until they have dropped the torps to you and are going back. So basically, just like the arty, you cannot fight it unless you kill its ammo (planes) but since almost no planes get killed on time, you are screwed.

There is noting on the EU website yet, and traditionally, we get updated a day later, so I'm guessing we are getting it on Wednesday?

+1, definitely a nice idea

The only reason I replied to you because I am not a type of person that is gonna let someone diss me for no reason

Not really, I don't know whats happening lately, but on some DDs, especially RU ones, you can penetrate them somehow. I've done that to other DDs and other BBs have done that to my DDs. Don't know if they changed the armor of DDs or what, but AP can certainly do a nice amount of damage now.

I am one of those that prefers saving credits, instead of paying 3 mil for something I don't need I don't mind the empty slot but its definitely getting filled after 5.2

I've read enough

Do you mind if I save this somewhere? Who said I was 10 km away from them? Also you just contradicted yourself by saying shooting CAs at 10km is a waste with a BB (Izumo), I thought they were just 1 random click/kill?

Still, if my cat was randomly walking on the keyboard while playing with Shima and had a BB 3 km away from him, I assure you the BB would be dead. So yeah, that Shima failed hardly and you cannot take that as an example. A smart BB cannot always know, not if the DD hasn't been spotted for a long time. Of course you are gonna change course every few seconds, but you cannot avoid torps easily as you say, or you are maybe the best torp avoider in this game, I don't know, I'm just saying this from my own perspective. I had games where I avoided all the torps, but also had games where all the torps hit me. The player (me) is the same, but its the environment and opponents that change so it not always fully predictable. And please, don't exaggerate by saying "randomly clicking on the screen and delete a cruiser with each click" I really cant stand somebody saying stuff like that. DDs also "randomly click and destroy everything they hit", CVs also "randomly click and destroy everything they attack". I am playing CAs as well, as I said, my current one is Yorck, and it is said it is one of the worst CAs in game, but I'm not having many problems fighting BBs in it because 1)I don't rush them 2) I stick to at least one more teammate. Same thing is with BBs. If a BB is alone he will be destroyed easily. Just today I met 3 cruisers and my Izumo, it took them a minute and a half to two minutes to kill me, while all I did was overpen them because they were playing smart.

That Shima is an idiot then... But if you get a smart DD that will make himself "invisible" and make you ignore him and then strike when you least expect, then its impossible to avoid them, especially if the DD actually knows how to aim those torps. EDIT: Then you are playing CAs wrong. As I said, I can dodge most of the time if I stay at max ranges, even with 11 sec rudder shift time on Yorck.

Actually for a long time CAs along with DDs were my main class. I started playing BBs the last. You can easily avoid shells with CAs as long as you are playing smart. The heck even a bad CA with bad rudder shift time like Yorck can avoid them as long as you stay at certain ranges and don't sail full broadside towards BB like a noob. "If you just accidentally tap A or D once (because I know that none of you BB players use keyboard, left hand too busy stroking e-peen while you look at the dmg counter)" - Really? Funny I was never able to do that, are we playing the same game? You are going with an assumption that a CA is 5 km away from BB when they are fighting while a DD is 20km away from BB when they are fighting (well at least when the DD is firing torps), and normally it should be exactly the opposite. If a CA wants to take on a BB, his best chance is to stay at max range, while its the opposite (really a gamble) when a DD is trying to do the same.

I agree there. I guess making cruisers less prone to citadels would be nice, but at the same time, they should be able to invisifire then.

IJN DDs still have good guns, I cannot say I like them personally but I know at least one guy that does really good job with them

Exactly, it would basically make the game unplayable. Sadly, lots of people forget DDs have guns as well, and rely on torps solely, that is why some of them find the DD gameplay boring.

So you are saying that CAs get killed by one salvo all the time? Just click and shoot? If its just click and shoot and kill CAs in 1 salvo, why do you have 26k avg dmg in New York while cruisers have 25-35k HP at that tier? You are also saying BBs just need to use rudder to avoid torps but CAs can't use rudder to avoid shells? I really don't want to discuss with people who think this way.

Well, each squadron has a key assigned to them (you can see it at the bottom middle of your screen) and that is how you select them and use them. I really do not understand your question fully...

It depends on the setup your carriers have/can have. From what I've seen you have the Bogue which can have 1/1/0 (fighter/torpedo bomber/bomber), 2/0/1 or 0/1/2 set up.

I believe the bulges just lower the overall damage torpedo can do, but not the flooding chance. It's just an assumption so I could be easily wrong.

I do not think it has, its just RNG.

Congratulations on rank1, you deserved it

Again you go with the story how I said BBs are bad. I NEVER SAID THAT. All I'm trying to say that, making DDs like Shimakaze reload every 30 sec would not just BBs bad, but the whole game, it would be really unbalanced as well. Feel free to compare my 1st post to your post where you quoted me and check who started acting like an a-hole first. Again, you talk about something you don't know. Turning takes quite a long time, especially on high tiers and especially after the next patch where some BBs will have up to 25 sec rudder shift time. Yeah, I play all classes and I don't remember the last time a BB got a devastating strike on my CA. You know why? Because I actually think while I play and try to expose his weaknesses instead of exposing mine Anyway, this is going offtopic.

I agree that it will be an important module. But name me 1 ship (I don't know how to say this in English correctly so read carefully ) that has a good use of better camo now, but will be better more torpedo acquisition when that module is out? That is basically why I asked my question in previous post.

How about you read it twice before trying to diss me? Damn braindead. I have never said battleships are UP. and DDs can EASILY kill a BB in 1 torpedo run! Just yesterday I got killed (full hp) in my Montana by a Fubuki, which says something (yeah, I was stupid enough not to see him). WHERE THE [edited]DID I ASK TO MAKE THEM STRONGER? Point me where please! All I said was that, with the current infestation of DDs, BBs aren't as OP as everyone says and more torps with their current flooding chances will make BBs really unplayable and DDs are able to kill a BB in two salvos, just like a BB is able to kill CAs. I enjoy playing CAs at the moment, even though a lot of people say they are UP, all you need to have is a tiny grain of brain and not rush BBs like a lot of people do. I even managed to do more than 30k damage to a Yamato (strongest BB in game by far) in 5 salvos with an Atago, and cause more than 5 fires. Nobody ever mentions that... For someone who doesn't have many battles in BBs, and doesn't even know how it is on high tiers, you really got big mouth. EDIT: To sim2k: Essex and Midway (while Taiho and Haku can't do it in 1 run, they can still do A LOT of damage) of course, and I get them every battle in last 8 battles I've had in Izumo, and I got sunk 7 times by CVs, in 1 run, even though I was doing my best to avoid them, also don't forget that you gotta show that juicy broadside to all the other ships sometimes just to TRY to avoid plane torps, even though they are nearly impossible to avoid with their speed. I'm not sure if you played many high tier battles lately, but all I see is CAs and DDs, with an exception of max 4 BBs per side (happened once only).

why would you be? :S and why would you want to switch from concealment to target acquisition all of a sudden?

This is the first ship I hope many people will buy, maybe WG will really realize then that more people would buy unbundled ships