CptBarney

He made another vid on it.

Yeah no they aren't you, can complain all you want, but CV's are broken by definition no matter how you spin it. The Thunderer is a stupid ship to go up against but like everything single ship in the game it still needs direct line of sight to engage it's enemies unless teammates are spotting it and if its spotted then it can be shot back, CV's on the hand get the luxury of choosing who they attack and when without ever being spotted. Amazing how people still deny this basic fact, but then you only have to look at the world to see why. Basic cognitive dissonance at its finest. The thunderer is like georgia, good at flanking and the middle range scenario but tends to get shut down if focused by more than 2+ ships. Take away the stupidly good HE and see what that does then move on.

At least you can defend yourself against a thunderer, can't do that against a CV unless its incompetent. Rather face the former than the latter, the ship isn't good (promotes bad play heavily). However i wouldn't go as far as to say CV's are a better option at all. The ship has very good guns, coupled with very good mobility and good concealment along with better heals, but has a poor amount of armour and low team play value if you spam HE all day (good for carriers i guess). The game would be better if HE actually worked how it was supossed to and be useless against anything with remote medium thickness armour and above. But due to an outdated engine and arcadey mechanics and the ship being very consistent that won't change.

Besides kiting and sitting behind an island, there isnt much you can do. Just the ship you have is limited in what i can do. Blame weegee for their pen mechanics and also armour schemes as well.

Too be honest, weegee will never change the system since it works enough for them to get lots of moneh (apart from cv's at low tiers which judging from forum posts are driving peeps newer ones anyways away, but i could be wrong). So whatever works will stay, especially if no more than 10 peeps at a time ask or rage for a new mm system. We could change the current ranked system into a proper ELO system, but im not sure how popular that will be at all and with such a small playerbase im not sure if it will be worth it. It's why gaijin keeps to its BR system despite it creating lots of powercreep (due to the systems restrictiveness and questionable vehicle placements by gaijin). This thread is like the CV reeeework thread, it will never get looked at and is just a bin for weegee to shove anything related to into the relevant thread. Maybe the odd employee reads, but reading and the telling people about something are two different things. Dunno if the guys on world of tanks would be more receptive due to a large playerbase but its been 2-3 years since i last played so i have no clue.

Still a dumb reason as this isn't real life and you will face various ships of different designs from different nations so trying to do the whole 'counter this one ship/line thing' doesn't make any sense in a supposed tactical competitive online shooter. It's why in csgo most weapons in the same class pretty much do the same thing unless stated otherwise for whatever reason and have slight variations to each other (except sniper rifles being the biggest example of divergence in that game). It's clear that they were made to be stupidly easy when they still had underwater citadels and miss conqueror could sail broadside give the finger and not lose 1/3 of their HP in a single salvo and print a zao off when things got a bit dicey.

True, especially with KGV, but then i would of put her at tier 6 or simply, give her 381's that she would of gotten latter on like monarch did in game. But then you have lyon with 12 guns and a smaller caliber than KGV so maybe its just peegee doing it wrong again. Then give monarch more accurate guns, with slightly better deck armour (more resistant to HE) and maybe better secondaries and less conceal and do the same for the lion and conqueror and also make their guns more accurate (not too much though). So they could of been slightly more tanky than american ships but still less than German ships. Makes me wonder what prince of wales will be like. Oh well, i can't wait for british BB hulls in UA:D anyways.

Too be honest the entire british BB line should of been AP focused, not sure what peegee were smoking when they thought giving those BB's stupid HE shells coupled with good conceal and enhanced/super heals was a good idea.

Shes loike georgia, strong when not focused and a somewhat above average team but unlike georgia has worse armour despite very good guns. makes me wonder if weegee will add a 508 version at somepoint.

Sample size is still too small, im not the one who can't accept reality for what it is. And they would as more players get their hands on it, the inevitability of bad players playing her and playing her lots increases dramatically.Reducing her stats overall. Basic statistics really. Although thanks to her, tier and probs from CC's she was never really that attractive anyways.

No the stats sample is still too small.

Sample size is still too small. Doesn't look promising i suspect it will sit between iron duke and konig probs.

I forgot about hizen, also got miss georgia not long after her release as well still my fav ship. I was expecting hizen to be great so once hes got georgia and doesn't have thunderer go for her next or straight on to miss pommern.

Georgia as she will probs leave at somepoint soon, so then you can save up for pommern.

so what did i miss then?

I forgot about those, although i suspect they want something a bit more modern. Maybe idk.

prob's peeps who want to play a really weird version of ww2 naval wars. guess they will have to wait till warthunder puts in alaska and other supercruisers and battlecruisers or UA:D once the campaign comes out and is more fleshed out.

Except shells cant magically fly around the map and strike you and also most people in this game fail at map awareness and using their brain. And yes planes have HP but its not like you have to fly in an extremely linear and limited way, planes can bypass and will bypass the above by either going around, going at a different angle or striking certain parts of the ship. Hence why we have OP prems, we have a game mechanic that demonstrates why surface combat died in naval warfare. Due to people 'wanting something more' instead of wondering if it would be a good idea. Its why CV's are my highest winrate and damaging ships out of all the ships i play, because they are that much more flexible and easier than other classes.

was expecting this thread to reach 200 pages now pittyful lads. otachan needs to eat.

Well biscuits did get a very large hole in her fat rear, but the ship in question was anything but smoll. Never understood why they didn't simply take her out with her sister and the two other smaller bb's and form a task force that way. Oh well. Makes me wonder what kind of battle that would of been. Pretty sure miss Kamchatka herself could of taken out her stacks while screeching about torpedo boats.

@Sunleader we could do with a more uniform class hierarchy for ships doe. Makes it easier for peegee to balans, and also allows us to categorise ships easier. Might design a modern light cruiser after i’ve done some of my other 3d modelling projects. About 22,000 tones (going of by how fat dd’s are nowadays almost like they cooralate with something else lol). Ill give her gun turrets as well, seeing as no one has a clue how well these systems perform in actual near balanced engagements (or similar). oh well, bbv’s and ccv’s (i think) will be interesting. was expecting battlecarriers but not this early.

I loike bumpers cars. Ill also ask weegee to add in miss pitty pittsburgh too.

Gib pls, so i can has tier 10 Super georgia 'w' Or Witichas dispersion if weegee gets a bit angreh.

If yorkie was here i'd get you to swap entywee for yorkie.

Dunno some peeps might just like her in-general. Kinda like how i would take monarch, charles martel, algerie and few others out a lot. Or if it was tier 9 mostly georgia and saint louis.