Karasu_Browarszky

To me it seems the Pan-Asian commanders use whatever general voiceover you have chosen in the settings. If you got English, they should use English. Haven't experimented with this to confirm it, but that's how I think it is. Then again, the Pan-European commanders seem to use English anyway if they are Swedish, the Dutch ones have Dutch voiceover. Not quite what I would call consistent.

True, but even a DD can be enough. Depends on the DD. Well, I don't remember a similar experience. The best I've managed is pull out severely crippled. I may have taken a few pot shots at the smoke, scored maybe a hit or two, but never sank a concealed DD that way.

IF the DD is hit effectively enough. The BB is burning as a literally lit up target. It is not even necessarily just the DD(s) that are firing at it at this time. If the target BB gets multiple AP hits while on fire, the result of the 'fun' engagement becomes very predictable, very fast.

As a little reminder here, at least before the subs were unleashed on the unsuspecting player population, if one team had BBs and the other one had DDs left at the end, the team with the DDs won unless they played it very badly.

Perhaps this has something to do with the traditional relative overpopularity of the capital ships, mostly BB's. Wouldn't go as far as to claim that CV's are popular around here.... It is very effective in a cowardly sort of way when done from the cover of smoke, and very annoying from the BB point of view.

You bring a shotgun?

So there's still ways to avoid them, if that is your only problem with the game. Unfortunately for me, the subs are only one problematic element among many which all compound together. I plan to do limited randoms (mostly for NB purposes), I'm not quite sure about clan battles (never played any), I plan to avoid ranked (since the ruined it with the new format), will use coop (for NB and grinding) and otherwise settle for what the random operations have to offer. Wouldn't pay a red cent for what I'm currently getting out of this game so my wallet stays closed.

One of those, monthly ones...

Have you re-installed it? Just use the download link and re-install it, no need to uninstall first. BTW, the vanilla game seems to have some bug that mixes up ship data. I don't if that could also create complications for the mods as they make use of the same data.

It does, I can assure you it does.

The core issue is that how are they going to solve the subs either being totally OP or completely useless in randoms. There are also players who are much more skilled at sub play than some others. Theoretically, the solution would be to nerf their damage potential significantly, while making them slower but harder to detect. Does that, though, sound like fun and engaging or snoozy and boring?

That's a very negative view.

Okay... well that seems reasonable and it's the least bad course of action most of the time. It just doesn't leave many opportunities for ASW activity in your typical random battle. Technically, what I should do as a DD is keep screening against the unseen threat, try to spot at least the torps that it might be firing in the direction of my teammates. It's still kind of bad gameplay, though and it makes the sub problem worse because it allows them to practice area denial and control. And they will keep spotting too.

Possibly.. but the problem with half the red team firing at me still lands me in a pickle.

You mean for DD guns? That leads to the DD getting spotted under almost all conditions. For the depth charges to work, the DD has to get on top of the sub or right next to. I have only played subs in those trial operations. You didn't need to be at periscope depth there to fire your torps at a DD.

The sub would spot me before I get close enough, and there might also be an enemy DD close enough to the sub further back with better concealment than what I may have. Also, if their CV is working in tandem with the sub, they will send planes in my direction. There's plenty of opportunity of getting spotted unless the sub is dumb enough to move too close initially.

You misunderstood. The DD vs sub interaction is not the problem, it's how your DD stays spotted and becomes a practice target for half the red team.

If you say so, human.

DD's are the most useless class to counter the subs, closely followed by the non-airstrike cruisers. WG logic....

If this counts as lucky in your book, I'd hate to see what it will look like when you get unlucky.

I dunno... I entertain a fetish for flashing lights, knobs and dials, like on stereo systems and television sets and radios. I'd love a more fetish oriented UI.

Do you mean ships that are no longer available should not be allowed?

They have been conditioned.

Is OP trolling or is that sarcasm? Would this mean that the subs would be moved from randoms over to ranked battles? Cause if it meant that then I would wholeheartedly support the motion to get rid of the nasty little... bothers.

Sevastopol is a good ship? I notice it costs 58.000 RB's.... I kinda noticed I don't like grinding and regrinding the ships over and over. Mind you, if the meta were still like it used to be, all other tiers were quite enjoyable apart from maybe tier 9. But these days...meh. I think I will rather go along with OP's idea. Sevastopol has been sabotaged!