Karasu_Browarszky

I agree. While we need variety, I would much prefer rotating specials or permanently available modes/campaigns rather than time limited grind fests.

Now that they have confirmed submarines.. are we happier or not?

Well, the point I was trying to make is I don't think it would add realism to a game sadly lacking in it as it is. I'm no expert on WW2 naval warfare, but I'd hazard a guess the most effective use of the submarines was against shipping convoys, potentially against task forces and on patrols but not in taking part in major fleet engagements.

Given the game is supposedly about naval surface fleets (not really but that's another matter) they really shouldn't be expected at all. If we were to play with freighter and troop ship convoys and such, then, possibly.

I would never have thought that not understanding ****** all about the intricacies of the game mechanics would actually work in my favour but.... Me press button, me fire, me watch ship sink (often my own...).

It may be a minority, but it may also be that only that minority can actually determine what those issues are, while the majority will just think for some reason they no longer care about the game. While I'm pretty far from a solid player, I can identify what the issues are for me. None of them game breaking IMO, as I still play the game regularly although maybe fewer battles daily than at other times.

Yes, but I think many of us think that the game has 'issues'. The longer those issues go unaddressed or are even compounded by what people perceive as mistakes or steps in the wrong direction, the worse it will get.

Hehe.. while I prefer regular torpedoes against the 'Warriors of the Smoke' (have sunk a fair number of them like that ), if you only got DWT's you could still use them to spook those DD's out of the cover of their smoke.

The best advice given the current state of the game is something I myself fail to follow.. oddly. Find out which ships i.e. nations, classes, lines and individuals ships suit you. Don't grind something you have no interest in and/or which frustrates you on a regular basis (occasional 'bad days' aren't such an issue). I'm in part failing to follow this advice because there are a few ships I'm trying to play and ships I'm grinding for. I should play my 'fav' ships more. I seem to like stealthy torpedo DD's, immensely powerful BB's and 'kite' cruisers the best.

You may have a point there. No idea what their intended submarine play would be like, but from other games I've played I would expect it to be very stealth based and essentially IMO would require much bigger maps, unless they are preparing to make it one of the grand fiascos of WoWS history. A separate game mode with AI/countermeasures would allow them to produce a balanced game mode and add variety in the game without all the unnecessary drama that it might otherwise lead to. In short, I can't see how submarines could be implemented in the current meta without throwing what's left of the game balance out the porthole.

I'm not happy with the meta, I'm not too happy about grinding either. My biggest gripe however seems to be about the persistent lack of variety. Specifically I'm referring to the sad state of operations. We've talked about it in a number of threads and I strongly feel that not only do we need all the old operations back but also a host of others, preferably based on historical engagements and covering basically all tiers from at least 3/4 to 10.

FTFY There are times when you can't resist correcting other people.

Reset everything? That is an interesting prospect. Re-grind the lines you liked and never touch the ones you no longer would be playing anyway.

You can hide your stats, at least in part, not sure if some things still leak thru somehow. Your overall WR is not going to change much even if you get 6 wins in 9 battles, though.

TBH no idea. I'm kinda of fed up with grinding as it is. I could maybe think of doing it on some of those 'short' lines like alternate DD's and such.

Cool post (and a good point about those operations, not only do we need the old ones back but we need new ones ASAP) but...any hopes for a Readers' Digest version?

Interesting. In coop one of the problems is they tend to charge right at you, and trying to get a good angle requires some flanking which is difficult to achieve.

Pink seems to be the latest rage, I keep seeing it in almost every battle now. More seriously, are you sure you weren't torping from the 2nd line? That is a risky practice. Sometimes also when I'm sailing close to another DD they fire torpedoes so that I almost have to dodge them myself, some of the are pretty good so they pass just ahead of me when running on full speed. You can never be completely safe with long range torps though. My first pink was when some torps I had fired hit a friendly DD half way across the map.... Also, some BB's act irrationally and push straight towards the enemy line of BBs which you were trying to hit with your torpedoes.. with predictable results. When I go pink it is for 2 battles. I play a couple of very cautious coops and the problem is solved.

Wish they would give the bots something to say. If only radio messages so you wouldn't feel so lonely. When it's just me and the other bots it feels so odd with just me using voice commands and chat.

So it's mostly coincidental that they turn so quickly after you fire your torpedoes?

Yes, the bots cheat. Very difficult to torpedo them, they also seem to have permanent RDF on so they know where you are at all times. On more opens maps they pretty much charge right at you. On some maps it gets a lot trickier, and even becomes perfectly possible for your team to lose the battle.... not that I'd personally have any first hand experience of that, just heard some.. rumors....

Yeah well, amazingly enough WG still hasn't come up with a proper historical camo for many ships. Hope the California gets it but I'd again like to take this opportunity to point out that the Yamato is still waiting for Kure gray....

@Kimochii_desu was cruising on the opposite team and spotted my DD trying to cap the infamous C cap on Mountain Range. Long story short, I went from Ni hao to Sayonara faster than I could say either of those things. Not really upset about getting a quick battle like that as I had a pizza ready for oven waiting for me. The battle result was quite enjoyable.

The absolute bestest map ever! The detailed realism is superb, and I wish I'd get to see it more often than once in a blue moon. Of course, I'd like them to design more maps along these lines.