Karasu_Browarszky

Yeah.. I can't make CV's work really in coop either. Has to do with not being able to dodge the flak and how I'm supposed to work the aiming is still a mystery. My timing is always off, either too early or too late. Mostly I contend myself with spotting the enemy and looking the part, sailing aggressively back and forth.

I don't play subs, but I've noticed that I do much much better with cruisers in coop as opposed to the randoms.

As always, the experience improves (no pun intended) the fewer human players there are to mess things up for us bots.

That's kind of a funny I've noticed myself. Unless there is some kind of a task, campaign, mission, grind that feels important etc, I seem less motivated to play the game. I'd prefer the sort of situation where I want to play the game for the sake of playing the game.

Apparently there is History before AD 2000 and... whatever came since... https://www.quora.com/What-went-wrong-with-the-History-Channel-It-seems-nobody-has-any-respect-for-it-anymore

Just don't lose your marbles...

But... 'we are all Greeks...'

Kills....

The term 'Coop' sort of implies it is about learning team tactics and how to play together but... ... what are we supposed to make of 'Random' then?

Bad intelligence. Good point about economy, by the way. The Soviets had completely collectivised their economy which gave them a huge advantage (by that time the downsides of command economy had not had time to show up) which is comparable to what the Americans did with their war time economy. Yoghurt... and one particular song come to mind, though it is perhaps unwise to mention them here...

I thought that was what the randoms were about?

I guess you could div up with a CV and a sub. Thank me later.

I protest! It is the Premium Shop which is for the likes of us.

Incredibly, considering the traditions of the German general staff, bad planning and severe miscalculations was a huge factor. Germans absolutely would have also needed strategic bombers to reach the Soviet production plants in Siberia. I also would not underestimate the significance of the fact that the supply route for the Murmansk convoys was heavily dependent on the Murmansk railway... and the fact there didn't seem to have been sufficient... understanding, shall we say, that that route should have been cut in order to secure German strategic goals. It would be interesting to see what sort conclusions would a modern supercomputer draw if all known factors were fed into its calculations. Apart from that, there's nothing wrong with national pride as long as it doesn't go the route of trampling on others' toes.

Time management? The problem here is that traditionally it's been a good thing coop is fast, because that's allowed you to farm xp/damage etc and win battles for the missions relatively faster compared to the randoms, and the fact you could fight more coop in the same time as randoms (unless you know... like get sunk in the first 2 mins...) so you haven't actually lost that much in terms of xp/damage (just credits). The cv's and subs complicated this, because they often add to the battle time but do not provide an opportunity to use the added time to farm damage.

.. I have one Greek cousin.. 24th, once removed... her name was Olga.

And that's not all those 300 guys did..

I protest! You can also lose in Coop.

The timing was bad. Especially fo Operation Typhoon. Obviously for the whole war, winter plays a lesser role, but it did create complications especially for the Battle of Moscow and Stalingrad. True, though, it alone isn't the reason for losing the war itself. Terrain, having to regauge the rails, distances, ever growing length of supply lines as the front not only pushed further east but also fanned out. The fact that apart from the Panzer troops, Wehrmach had only been motorised to a relatively low degree. Those sort of things you mean?

It can be assumed the cold winter impacted the Soviets less. While it was exceptionally cold, the fact it can get exceptionally cold in winter came as no surprise to them, whereas apparently it did for the Germans unless there is some other explanation for them overlooking weather factors. The question remains, to what extent were those logistical issues impacted by the need to conduct the very much ad hoc Balkan campaign right on the doorstep of the planned invasion of the Soviet Union. You could assume there is little impact considering the difference in scale, but I don't have any idea how the logistical side of Wehrmach operations worked so can't comment on that to any significant degree. Since then, it's very much 'what if' kind of reasoning on my part. The delay prior to 22th June is less significant than the delays caused by a number of factors during the invasion itself leading to the Battle of Moscow. The failure of Operation Typhoon on the German side is a combination of all these factors combined with the fact how skilfully the Soviets conducted their defensive campaign. That, too, must have come us a suprise because I think the Germans relied on the red army having been weakened by Stalin's purges.

Okay.. this is getting complicated. https://history.army.mil/books/wwii/balkan/20_260_5.htm A short quick analysis to be found there. Technically, the delay is about 5 weeks between the planned start of the invasion and the actual attack. There's something that I didn't even remember, that is a factor, the spring floods which apparently mean the operation could not have been launced on the planned date May 15th anyway. Then again, how easy it is to switch campaigns on the fly like that? We know there are a lot of contributing factors that you'd need to take into account. Two of the most famous ones are the early, bitterly cold winter, lack of appropriate gear etc. Also, note.. that after the initial shock the Soviets weren't actually completely helpless and inept either. I'm theoretizing, that all these (and other known) factors contributed to slowing down of Operation Barbarossa significantly enough that the German forces failed to reach strategic positions around Moscow early enough to be able to prevent Soviet consolidation of the capital's defenses and take Moscow before onset of winter. That may not be quite three months, effectively, but I think closer to two months than just 3 weeks anyway.