Bear__Necessities

T10 is one of the hardest tiers as you ARE expected to A) be good and know how to play and B) have learnt the skill needed to win and be effective as you are also expected to carry for the lower tier ships. And calling people “elitist” doesn’t suddenly make your “aruguments” valid. Especially as it the “Elitists” having to carry you for your wins. You should be thanking them and learning from them. Maybe you might find it helps your game play. Frankly your our inputs just leave us all...

Ohhh here you chip in again with nonsense and your head in the sand. We all look forwards to slaughtering you in game. But we don’t look forward to having to carry you. But yeah. I can’t influence a game on my own at all... and god forbid you ever meet my division.

When all totalled up the CV’s recent run of nerfs probably doesn’t even add up even close to the amount of nerfs all the other classes have had over the last few years. All about trying for balance.

No. They are on my feet.

Pretty much. But all we get told is to “adapt” by so average CV players so that get it easier and think they can be on parity with unicums.

So 5, make that 5 ways to do damage. Right. Sure. You’re all about game balance. Ohhh and for the record I play other classes too. That’s why I’m calling the BS on your “ideas” to unbalance the game further.

You just don’t want or believe in balance in this game do you. You want your toy to be more OP than all the others. Some ships have 1 or 2 forms of doing damage at risk of their ship. You want CV’s to have 4... at little risk. No. Now go sit in the corner and think about what you’ve said.

This is a game. Not real life

I’m happy as long as I didn’t suck personally. Sometimes helping the team is subtle sometimes it comes in the form of slaughtering all before you. So that said, yes, as long as I felt I have pulled my weight no matter the result I’m happy.

“Team Dependent” You mean fed to the wolves in ranked.

And how’s that gonna work in ranked? Even tiers have the CV’s that can do damage and look out for themselves while the odd tier support CV are utterly dependent on the team and little damage output.... sounds super...

Wait?! What?! You are demanding another buff that requires no player input or skill?? #SHOCKEDNOTSHOCKED I mean really. As suggestions go you’re one for fighters that aren’t “doing anything” is utterly stupid. If they are not doing “anything” you put them in the wrong place. Jesus wept. Guess what, other ships also do damage over time. Like fires, flooding, having to land multiple rounds on large HP targets over the course of the game. Man, you really are showing your lack of game skill and knowledge here. You're not not getting your “buffs”. You have to adapt your play style. Herrr de derrr.

Firstly Subs are not coming. Stop getting you’re hopes up. Secondly. Nerf on rockets isn’t what I was going on about. It’s that you need them buffed coz you can’t cope. Which ain’t happening hence the git gud. Even the good CV players are telling you to do that and it’s possible to hurt DD’s. Thirdly. If your current results are what you call adapting in DD’s, I’ve got some bad news for you. However I’m happy to provide tips and tactics on DD’s or link replays including my own, for you to watch and see how to get the best out of them. But you saying you’re adapting in DD’s and getting good results is like me going to @El2aZeR saying I’m adapting to CV’s look I’m almost good. I’m not. CV’s suck. And I suck in them. The only good thing I was to good at in RTS for winning air supremacy.

Well I can also do it at T6 and T4. Frankly the entitlement from CV players (bang average ones and below) is astonishing. I in a DD have to play smart, against radar, hydro, planes and fellow DD’s, take calculated risks all the time and then get rewards after RNG has also been factored in. The cheek and nerve of CV players demanding to be able to do damage at any time, anywhere to any class with little to low skill needed and little to no risk for reward is appalling. There’s a reason CV’s are unpopular. It’s half because of the moaning buff demanding potato’s that play them. Boo hoo you have to try a little bit harder. Cry us all a river. The nerfs happened. And to quote Beasts never ending lines. You have to adapt. Sucks when you have to do the adapting huh...

Not true. I’ve taken many a cap early and gone on to survive and win. So it dies to a team effort and not some OP super can do everything ship. Sounds like the game is working as intended to me... Again, for you also. Git Gud.

And yet I don’t really lose... and as a DD player, I’ve come across 100’s of times where they’ve been able to hit me, even after going infected because they've worked out a rough course of direction and can judge distance (it’s called skill). Magic isn’t it. I’m just gonna day it nice and clear now. GIT GUD.

So either way the DD still dies and is spotted. You've successfully showed your point is... well... pointless.

Kaga is T8 last time I checked......

And yet, I and many other don't struggle to hit DD's in our CV's... It's like you want your toy OP coz you struggle...

You get this was very tongue in cheek

Yay... more spotting potential for CV's...

If I can find a DD on my own, turn, aim, target and hit a DD on my own and I'm not a good CV player yet, then frankly there is no substance to your point here buddy. It require this thing called skill and forward planning.

Ohhh my this thread escalated quickly....

My biggest grip is double CV games. They suck, they suck big fat donkey . You can't do anything remotely effective or team based early doors. By mid game when ships get thinned, it gets worse. Unless one of the CV players has sniffed a large pot of glue and yolo'd it just becomes a walk in the park for them. How my battered and barely alive DD and cruiser is supposed to even attempt to beat 2 CV's in the end game is beyond me. I have no problem with 1 CV in a game, I have no problem with purple unicorns shitting on everyone. They got the time to get good, fair play. It's when the game becomes so broken/unbalanced that even my bank accounts looks healthy in comparison, I worry about how WG have managed to piss off almost every body. They rushed out the rework, had to rush in hot fix after hot fix, use the live server for testing... (PTS? What's the point of having it then) and still, keep rinsing the same line about how it will take time. I'm sure when they built the pyramids they said the same thing... and that wasn't done quickly. For the record, I'm trying the new CV's slowly. They just don't engage me. But I'll preserver until I "get them" I suppose. Overall... the game is just becoming....

we've been carrying for a year or 2 now