Bear__Necessities

I mean, I clearly know nothing about cruiser play or DD play or how to counter either... Ohhh wait, according to you these are all fluke and not correlated at all

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Comedy gold

What part of I play all classes do you not get? I have a very good understanding of all the class types. If you are chasing a DD which is stealthier than you, can run away faster, smoke if needed and outlive radar and out range hydro you are asking to be killed. Probably by a BB who sees your death charge on a DD showing them a broadside. There is this thing called kiting. If you kite away, torps can’t hit you. If you actively manoeuvre away. Torps can’t hit you. If you have map aweness you can easily work out the where the DD is and do all the above that I mentioned. Concept of war? Hold up Leonids. This is an Arcade game. Not the 300 at the Hot Gates. Jezzzz. A ship heading to a DD at 30 knots? OK, in my DD I’ll press speed boost and hit near 40 knots, only Henri possesses a charging threat. Im still hitting 60% plus in DD’s across all tiers. There’s nothing that will stop me doing that no matter what you think. Sorry. I’m just good. You’re right, there are no mandatory builds. But there are tried and tested realiable builds that work. It’s called evidence based research. Look that up for once. You are welcome to set up a captain how you want. But I will not stay quite and let you advocate poor advice in this forum. You lack the in game knowledge to be allowed to reign free with you “advice” and “tips”. Torp vigilance is there for BB’s such as the GK which is huge and slow. Not fast nimble cruisers. Learn the game mechanics and tools please.

So took out some top tier DD’s last night. No issues with causing floods at all. Flooding damage, little bit lower than before the change but my targets still died. Found myself just using my guns more to add a few fire here and there. Just personal game play experience though. Gonna have to try low tiers next. Also not having problems getting floods in CV’s but that may be RNG.

It IS a waste of valuable skill points. We don’t think it, we know it. From 1000’s of games and years of experience from good cruiser players, including myself. A cruiser is a small target that should be constantly moving and no in direct line of sight or in a fire fight. Torps are rarely a problem if you follow the simple rules of cruiser play.

Every time I see your wee profile picture I always end up squinting then realise what it is 😂

Stick a replay up and we can give ya tips and advice buddy. But yes, like @DFens_666 has said, if you angle in her she can tank a surprising amount and her guns will still hurt what you see back. She's a great ship and maybe one the the best in her Tier.

No, keep them in the dark... I'll pay you... How else am I supposed to flank and murder CV's if they know what they are doing!!!

How I was allowed to get the drop on these 2 is hilarious. Then proceeded to paste the closest one and even the angry bees they sent couldn't do much back. Even secondaries couldn't save them Hell, here's the replay. At points I was laughing whilst wtf'ing as they let me cap the middle, pass the middle. Stagger torp the monty and cause floods... then well, drop in on them at my own pleasure and will.... hahaha https://replayswows.com/replay/46292#stats

@Gojuadorai have a request for you. Played a game with this chap and he interested in joining us and learning more. He had a good game in Monty also. I'd vouch on the basis of the game played :)

And using the tools, gun and single launch torps to get the best out of a mediocre ship :)

Gun power and single launch torpedos. Worked wonders for me.

Acasta is a great hit and run DD that can also bully other DD’s out of their smoke at that tier.

I’ve generally always tried to stagger drops unless it’s a last ditch yolo or I know I can wipe a BB out of the water with an ambush. Been my play style for so long I’ve not noticed this flooding change. I’ve not noticed a change. What I might now do is get playing more RN DD’s again to see and actively look to see if there is a change in how many floods I get or if flooding damage is lesser.

Icarus is a good smolbote. A reliable smolbote. So was Acasta come to think of it. Really enjoyed the RN DD grind. So much so I made it the 2 grind on my second account getting to Daring in no time at all. and getting better results as o had since mastered the way of RN DD. Jervis, Lighting and Jutland are just ridiculously good smolbotes.

Stagger torp drops. And RN single fire shines in the current meta.

Have to say, I’ve not noticed it hamper my DD’s and I seem to reliable cause flooding in CV’s. At least in Lexington anyway.

RN DD’s are amazing and if anyone says otherwise I’ll jib ya!!

Start a thread by putting up a replay or 2. Ask for tips and advice from CV players, the good ones will give you honest help. I asked @El2aZeR to review one of mine and it was very insightful. But it if you put up a thread demanding nerfs to a line you don’t even play, what do you expect??

An outstanding comment considering you are maybe the worst for derailing threads and throwing out insults. Slow clap for hypocrisy.

The entire thread isn’t constructive so...

So we’ve agreed Farragut cannot stealth torp because by that logic anything with torps can stealth torp. Hatsu does have weak guns compared to her direct competition. Does not mean I don’t use them. T-22 has 2.5 mill games and sits in the bottom 3. One of the weakest DD’s has stealthier competition. Is slower. Eats AP shells and is an easy targets for CV’s. My bad about Icarus, been a while since I played her. Overall my points still hold up with regards to the OP’s moan fest.

Clemson. Can’t stealth torp. Nicholas. Can’t stealth torp. Farragut. Can’t stealtb torp. Minikaze. Already been nerfed so yeah... Mutsuki. Awful guns. Hatsuharu. Awful guns. T-22 is not stealthy. The russians are not stealthy with very short range torps. RN have slow speed and can’t stealth torp till Jervis. All have pretty poor AA other than maybe Farragut so easy pickings for CV’s. All have low HP pools so are easy for cruisers to murder and very few have truly powerful torps that can blap a BB in one full set. I also note that you have almost no games in DD’s so have no real experience or any weight of validity. To summerise. “I’m not good, please nerf so I can have it easy”. That is all. Case closed and thread no longer needed.

I did think that, maybe 20 threads ago. But nobody has that sort of longevity... do they??

Again. Working 2 times in 80 games does not make it relevant.