TorucMacta

I fully agree! There should be a safe place for new people to learn the game (and there is. Isn't it like a think where tier IV will only at most face one tier higher? And there's co-op) And nobody should rush into tier X, get wrecked and then cry about it. That is not my point I really don't care I get my [edited]handed to me every so often. Teaches me what not to do in the game :p It's the attitude of 'new players should not play' that is toxic and destructive. Deny there's an elitism problem in the community while being part of that elite. Of course you don't see the problem. People don't tell you to quit playing because you're new because surprise. You aren't! I agree that's how it should be! But that's not how the game works. You grind your way up to the next tier. Get your [edited]handed to you the first time you play there (as you should!) but then are to blame for the loss, get reported, get insulted and get told to quit playing. But Toruc, you say, explain to them you're new and trying to learn. And well that only makes crap worse. Because now all you hear is "lol. Only tier VII after 400 games? better quit. Game clearly isn't for you" The problem is you cannot advance when you feel ready. You're only allowed to advance when you're already dominant in the next tier up, before even entering it. Players with thousands or tens of thousands of games, like our dear Kompressor, expect you to be great at a ship the second you pick it up.

Literally does the thing I accuse you about, then calling it made up :p Why did I think the forum would be any better than the in-game chat?

As I said twice now. I can handle toxic. It's the way this community, including this threat it seems like, is hell-bent on stopping new people from entering.... Case in point. The two people in this threat with over 10k battles are telling the beginner to just stay down at tier IV and stop whining. The guy with under 200 battles agrees... How [edited]interesting that the elite claim elitism isn't a problem bahahahaha

Which is the exact point I was trying to make. There's no rush! I play just a couple of games. No premium, no gold, no nothing. I saved my way up to the ranger (tier VI with Tier IV bombers and torpedo bombers), hit random battle, was one of the only two tier VI's in a tier VIII battle and it was all my fault. I shouldn't have started the game unless I was planning on getting krakken and only play in battles where I'm the top tier. But guess what? You don't choose when you will be top or bottom tier. You don't choose when ship spawns mean a tier VIII cruiser parks itself in front of you and shoots down all your aircraft before they take off. But you do choose to tell people to quit playing, to discourage them from trying harder the next game, just because they're new to the game. Being new is a sin in this game it seems like. That's what ColonelPete says in his post at least. That's what every chat says when you're bottom tier in a losing game. And that's a very sad state for a game to be in. Because the second elitism starts to stop the influx of new players, is the second your game starts to die.

I hope you understand you're a cute example of the problem. I'm spending a single dollar on this game and am trying to advance my dd's, bb's cruisers and cv's at the same rate... So the fact that I have a tier VI ship isn't cuz I 'rushed' ahead of my skill buddy I'm following the natural progression of the game. But I guess you're right. Maybe noobs like me should sit in tier I for 3000 games before daring to step into the next tier.

I'm a casual player and an absolute noob. I do my best to get the basics done. Focus on the objectives, not giving broadside, keep an eye on the minimap... I have a 49% winrate in random battles, which is exactly what I'd expect for a casual noob like myself. However it is nearly every game where I survive till the last few ships, I get flung insults and snobist remarks from players with thousands of battles more than me. Is this just because I'm bad at the game or is this a wider problem? It seems like when you sink 2 ships in a destroyer, you should've sunk 4. If you use hydro to spot a destroyer in a smoke but can't finish him, you should unistall. And that's the best of it. I'm dabbling into CV's recently and I'm really enjoying it. However every time an enemy destroyer gets a kill you get the 'wow thanks CV' or the usual kill yourself. When you even dare say in chat you're trying the usual response is to stop playing if you're 'this bad'. I don't know if it's appropriate to name names on the forum but a certain member of NORFR told me today he would murder my entire family because my tier IV aircraft were getting shot down by the enemies tier VIII battleships before I could make any big impact.(no I wasn't in a division. That's just the matchmaking you get sometimes when your tier VI CV has tier IV aircraft). Sure I know he won't do it, but it's really offputting for new players. And to all the 'grow a thick skin'-crowd. I'm not [edited]crying in bed about it. I just find it weird how this game is so much worse than any other toxic online multiplier I've ever played (LoL, CSGO, Overwatch,...) So. Is it just me?