Explorer487

Dunno if this is the right place for it but here goes anyway. So I bought Prinz Eugen, I think the ship is gorgeous and I love it aesthetically but well. Playing the ship is another story, I just cannot make it work. The only games I've had any success is in flat tier 8 or in games where I'm top tier. If she's uptiered to anything above 8 it feels like I'm virtually useless because I just can't compete with the damage output of anything. Hell she even struggles in a 1v1 with equal tier cruisers just because they have far more firepower at their disposal. Eugen can't really compete with that, she also can't kite to save her life. Rudder shift is slow as sin and the detection range is horrible. I really don't know what to do here. - I like to think myself as a fairly competent player, having had good success in Mogami, Takao and New Orleans (Which surprises me because New Orleans is made of paper). But I noticed they all have something in common, a trait that defines them from the rest. New Orleans has radar and sheer handling to her advantage. Along with pretty deadly guns which have a good range. Takao and Mogami have excellent torpedoes, best on tier cruiser concealment if specced and firepower to make Eugen cry and run home to mother despite poor firing range. - Prinz Eugen or Hipper don't really have any traits that make them good as a cruiser.. I really think this thing needs a buff already. I'm about to throw in the towel with it, sell the ship and put the credits toward something useful. If anyone can offer any tips to make it less painful I'd appreciate it :)

In my humble opinion, the Pan Asian DDs take away utlity from German Cruisers (And other ships of nations, Jap DDs for one.) Let's face it, why play something like Hipper when you can instead play a ship with very good concealment, smoke screens. Excellent torpedoes and great guns. Let's not forget speed!. Even as far as ships with radar at the higher tiers. Sure the Hydro is useful, but then when it comes to BBs. German BBs have Hydro - I know at least on my Bismarck I've found it massively more useful on there than on Hipper. Hell, even Bismarck does Hipper's job better than Hipper does lol..Sure her concealment is horrible. But the combination of secondary battery, hydro and armour mean she can push into a cap and support destroyers better than Hipper can without getting blapped. At least that's from my own experience

I really do feel like a buff is really overdue for this ship. WG's attitude towards keeping ships, at least in this case of historical value up to snuff is frankly depressing. They'd rather make two copies of Amagi and unleash an entire Pan Asian DD line (One of the lines of ships making Eugen and other cruisers completely redundant) instead of keeping these ships relevant. I feel like Eugen when uptiered at all, is next to hopeless where as Takao and Mogami (Both cruisers I love to death) can still hold a candle to the best of em at tier 10. The Hipper class was a very good class of cruiser in historic terms and as far as I'm concerned there's no reason for it to be anything less than that in the game - Apart from ignorance or the fact they can't be bothered. I really think the game has tanked since I started playing when it comes to things like this.