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Woaw! The best ninca post I've ever seen! you've had only 1.5 seconds to post this.. before I hit lock.. and you managed to do that.. amazing!

Dear OP, I see you have improvement ideas and suggestions about OHIO, please use the following suggestions thread, to post your ideas please. this topic will be locked.

no I won't not like in the past at least.. I'd like to be the lion rather than the amputated sheep lying on the ground and waiting to be gutted.

I don't want to agree with this.. but I don't think doing this to a tier 10dd is not ok, a the 2nd min of the game.. I have to confess I like doing this :) But I miss playing my DDs too..

The problem in competitive team play, there is nothing WG can do to solve "boring meta ship line-up" thingy. whatever they do, people will find the "Bes in Practice" line up for that season, and after a week or two, you'll see 90% of the teams using the same line up with same tactics. Only some funny clans try to use different tactics and line-ups, or some once in a blue moon fun line up, or some uber unicum clans who can own almost everyone in every line-up Other than that, the only think I can think of to do is, change the restrictions constantly so force people to find new line-ups.. like first week CVs allowed tier 8 with no DD.. second week, 2BBs allowed, tier 9 with no CV next week, regular tier 10 with no CV but max 3 per ships type. next week, tier 10, CV allowed, with no restrictions.. etc. etc.. or different rule sets for different leagues, or even sub leagues.. If there is only one set of rules throughout the season, BIP meta will fix itself and rules does not matter, or ship types, or restrictions. There will always be a boring stale meta in CBs..

Ok, this thread is beyond repair. Dear forum users, please do not post something If you don't like people disagreeing with you! This is a public place and people are free to share their opinions, and their opinions about other peoples opinions. Without insulting each other ofcourse. Anyway, topic will be locked.

Ladies and gentelmen, However this topic started very nice, It turned into a pissing and borderline insulting contest Please calm down, and accept people may have different opinions. Always remember, If you don't have anything positive to say, It is not worth it to post here. I guess people will not like this topic being removed due to negativity and non constructive nature. Take this all as an informal warning!

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Da comrad!

You've played donskoi enough to unlock a tier 10 ship. which you'll keep after the change, or even beter you'll get it for free, even If you had sold it.. there is a new tier 10 tech tree ship being added into the game, which you've never ever grinded before.. and you think you should get it for free? why do you believe that? different question, lets say, Moskva is not becoming a coal ship but stays at its place.. then WG says, we'll be adding a new tier 10 ship next to moskva, branching from donskoi.. would you ask it for free too? or is it reasonable for WG to ask people to grind another 240K xp on donskoi for it? If yes for the "free" how? and why? If no, how this is different from the first scenario?

how about instead, we move this discussion into CV topic, or into suggestions topic.. :) either way, this one will be locked. Have a good one!

MM does not know who is a potato and who is a unicum.. It wouldn't care even If it knew!

well well, looks like OP found a new clan :) Gonna lock this one now..

I completely agree, Sub nature has its own very distinctive rules and play styles, but I don't think WG only want to appeal "real sub gameplay lovers" they want to cater to the masses like you've pointed out.. and It doesn't matter we like it or not, WG looks at carrier rework as a success, when they compare it with the RTS CVs.. (just don't get into it here please.. I know.. I know :) and they are investing too much money and time into the subs, I believe it will be like CVs, catering for everyone who wants to play..

woaw! This time I was sure noone would take this seriously.. Because I don't know... it sounded extremely silly. I was wrong I guess..

Happens to best of us mate :) The best thing is, putting your division into co-op with all the camos and signals after a training session :) anyway since you've got your answer, and it is already turning into some other thing here. Gonna lock this topic... please open a new one, If you wanna discuss something else!

OH YES PLEASE! Gib Marko Ramius as a legendary captain, with a special skill of "GOING SILENT" Yes ! yes ! yes ! gib gib gib!!! But we need dallas as a submarine too! To be consistent with the real life

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I would like to share my 2 cents as a player too. I haven't played in tests, so this ingame mode was my first time with subs. First of all, the submarine battles cought the essence of submarine warfare very nicely. Silent, still, boring for a while, then you get full action for a very short time. Then you run away.. then you chase targets again in a boring time. People who love submarine mentality will love it I guess... But the mechanics for me are in need of some fixes. every ship has to have a ASW. BBs and Heavy cruisers are just fish in the barrel. RPF does not point out subs. they point out the nearest surface ship. So you look at your RPF and you think it shows that BB on your right 8km away, then suddenly a wild submarine appears on your left side. When you target a sub you get a depth indicator, but when you play CVs, you cannot target ships like you do in surface ships. so you don't get a depth indicator for subs.. so you see them, they can be at 7m depth, which means you cannot hit them, but you try anyway because you don't know. That bobbling in and around at 6m is just silly. You see a sub with your planes, at periscope depth, you start diving, they start diving too, you drop, you splash water.. then they resurface again. that quick. Another thing is, it is quite impossible subs to defend themselves from the targets very close, especially DDs. When a DD finds you, it is usually dive deep, stay silent, and wait for it to lose you. or else, you are dead. as a general comment, Subs are a little boring to play. Counter for subs are just.. not fun and engaging for me. Subs are in a state of "either / or" for me, they should be improved and more action packed IMO. and I'm really quite curious about the high tiers. Every ship line gets some gimmicks up to the lines. at tier 6 they already have hydro, deep dive, speed boost.. I'm afraid the subs will either be the same towards the line, just more speed, more HP, more torps and more damage.. or they will get different, unrealistic gimmicks, which will be puzzling it self.. Ex out!

Great! another CV topic. Lets carry this to the sticky one eh? Thank you all! This one will be locked!

Topic moved! Into more appropriate section. PS: this is the best I could find..

What has MM got to do with your teammates dying like flies?

Regular HE rockets can be extremely devastating for the DDs.. But I guess AP rockets are WGs answer to all "DDs are being screwed by CVs" complaints.

with AP? fires? and you don't get normal pens on them.. It has been said on the dev blog when they released them into test.. it is either an overpen, a bounce or a miss.. without any fire possibility.. usually If the DD is not sailing completely broadside, you usually get less than 1K damage on them. AP rockets are completely useless against DDs.. much like AP bombs..

People, This may be one of the very rare CV related topic which can survive. Please do not de-rail it into regular CV hater / CV lover fight.. It may not end up well both for the topic.. and the de-railers :)