Excavatus

@MrConway @Sub_Octavian @Crysantos Dear gentelmen... For the love of god.. or anything you believe in.. (SerB in this case may be) I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ASSIGN MY RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON TO ANY OTHER TASK IN GAME SETTINGS... I don't want to go into preferences file to change it.. I don't want it to reset If I ever do any other changes in my in game settings.. I just want to be able to assign my right mouse button to any other task I want.. It cost me 2 battles tonight.. Imagine your zoom in button changes in game.. and you just realize you don't have an artilery camera button as soon as you want to fire.. and you complete that match without it.. just please.. Rant off :) ,Love you all...

One idea here... Returning planes, get ready as soon as they return.. What if, like a destroyed plane, returning planes (only the ones, who attacked) needs a re-fit time? For example, Langley has 9 rocket planes, 6 of them take of together. they attack 3 by 3... then they get back. It usually takes them to go back 1 min in total.. with the ready 3 planes on the deck, you usually get the second rocket squadron instantly.. lets say, downed rocket planes has 1 min respawn time, returned planes has 30 seconds respawn time.. in this example, e langley captain, who completed his 1st attack on rocket planes, need to wait at least 2 and a half min to launch the next squadron in rocket planes. it is 1 and a half min later than the previous version. this duration can be tweaked and could be a little solution to the "infinite plaaaanees" criticism

You have a point. But with the past %99 of the samples we've seen, People who cry outloud that "I AM LEAVING, NO MORE MONEY FOR YOU WG" usually don't leave. People who says nothing, simply vanishes from the forum and the game. They are the ones who leaves. The vocal part, they are usually very unhappy personally and they want it to be heard by someone or at least find some like minded people and get together to curse together. It is no different than an unhappy wife, threatening her husband with "I AM LEAVING YOU!" This is classic "I CANNOT MAKE THIS WORK, I NEED YOUR ATTENTION!!" case. even though it is wrong to do in a marriage, It sometimes work. But in a multiplayer gaming environment.. it does not work simply. So just going into the recent update feedback thread and writing "I hate this update, made the game unplayable and unfun for me! I want it to revert back!" would be a much much better choice. Will it achieve something? I highly doubt at this point, but certainly would be a better way. I am just saying, Instead of threatening your partner with divorce, just talk with them about the problem.. and hope they will listen.. they usually don't but.. eh :)

You never wrote something like "I QUIT WG.. EFF YOU!!" you did what a normal person who happens to get tired of a game do, and quit silently.. WHY, Because, you don't care.. and you simply quit.. This is actually what I am talking about.. If someone does not have fun.. they stop playing.. plain and simple.. they don't need to scream about it... You don't make a fuss about it.... If you are making a fuss about it.. That is as you've said "Attention seeking!!!" LOOK AT ME! I AM UNHAPPY! DO SOMETHING! ACKNOWLEDGE MY UNHAPPINESS!!! So I am totally agree with you.. and my blanket does not cover you as you can see :)

Musashi was almost a one shot for a midway or hakuryu before the update. So If they cannot one shot me now, this is an improvement for me I say. or in the worst case scenario, nothing changed for my musashi.. But all I am saying is, We just need to be a little patient. As they rightly said before, It is impossible to completely balance a ship, a line or a mechanic in PTS. It needs live experience and numbers. At the first look, CVs are less dangerous than before. At least for me. So.. I am gonna hold my detailed thoughts a little bit back.. just to see what happens after a month. and If the game stabilizes but meta changes (It will change for sure) then I will try to adapt to that new meta... If I can do that and have fun, then... good for me.. If I can't, then it is time for me to leave... but If we, the guys who cannot adopt will be the majority, I think WG will do something about it. In the end this is a bussiness for them, and they want to profit.. This is how I think.

They actually don't want to quit, but they are personally suffering because "something changed!!!" So they want somebody from WG to come up and say!! "WE ARE SORRY!! DON'T LEAVE US!! THIS GAME IS DEAD WITHOUT YOU!!! DOOON'T LEAAVE US!" So... I am just reading in awe.. only 1 day into the update.. There is a frigging completely new mechanic for most of us.. People crying their eyes out.. Like with German BB line came up, like with new american cruiser line came up, like the new british BB line came up.. Just give it at least 1 update time.. let things settle.. then see what happens... Yes.. Conq is still retarded, yes.. wooster is ok now after the latest radar nerf... Lets wait.. If things sucks after a couple or more weeks (I am not saying they do right now) then we will burn WG together.. :)

Don't you think it is a little bit early to put on masks and chase down developers on the streets with torches and machettes?? It has been only 1 day. going in a match with a CV takes 3 to 5 mins.. sometimes you cant. Just wait it for a bit. At least for 1 more update... And frankly, my opinion is.. just in the short version... New CV.. is way way better than the old CV as an enemy.. In DD... Sees Hakuryu TBs while going cap... %95 dead.. In DD... Sees Hakuryu planes (any of them) take a little damage, kill a couple planes, run back to your fleet.. Live.. and try again... again.. this is just my preliminary observation. But new CVs are much less frustrating... I like them.. But in the end.. Some people, who are probably no different than us (I mean the developers... Gamer geeks) Spent months and months on this... Lets give them a little time... just to see.. In the end, they are not running away, and we can always run them down again.. with torches and machettes! ...

CVs are not powerful as they were, I've never seen a single CV as a deciding factor of a battle yesterday It is more fun to play against CVs now No more "Hello ship! Die Ship! Bye ship!" Both high tiers and low tiers seems ok. I played with Mino, that hakuryu planes were just like roasted nuts. I played a couple battles in Harugumo, didn't have too much problems. Killed 17 planes in Harugumo btw :) long story short, My first impressions are good.. Lets wait for people to learn how to play CVs.. and talk again :)

As I've understood, This has to be fixed because it is a bug and makes the game unstable in someway But because people likes it as a general concensus... The concequences of the bug will be back as an intended feature in the next possible update... If I've understood correctly.. This is very good.. good community, good devs.. Thank you all..

I picked Kronny.. but I will end up playing with my kita mostly I guess.. Kita is too strong!

Dear OP, Where is the option "I don't care, as long as the game is balanced and fun to play" ? Because frankly, Personally, I don't care about the source or the story of a ship. I respect people who do, but I don't. I just care about the fun and engaging gameplay in a balanced environment.

I am really sorry that you only encounter with very bad players :) Because cossack is just an average boat! It can't even take on tier 8 gun boats with an adequate captain in it :) me and my akizuki can confirm this

The only thing I am sure of after watching countless hours of rework videos and listening @El2aZeR, I am really afraid that the new CV will be more frustrating than the old ones.. Much much more!

I have the live one!

Hydro does not make my torpedos "no damage" Just makes it harder to hit.. thats all.. and I picked GK because it has the longest range hydro, Even though, If a DD gets caught in hydro... behind an island, in smoke, etc etc.. Thats DDs fault.. Hydro is just a little nuisance for DD.. It doesn't even worth to mention.

when you think about the concept of WWI and II ships.. just in battle conditions, a little rust over there.. and a small dent here.. can be acceptable.. But Yeah.. I want my dull grey pristine navy color :) with camo bonuses ofcourse!

You know what! I would really really like to do that! we generally can have 2 teams for a CB night.. I am trying to put these guys into training battles.. they don't join.. We can do that for the next season with OCTO.. If you guys are willing.. and I think It would be awesome. yeah yeah.. he wanted to go and charge on a full HP Hindi.. in his 3.5K harugumo.. and It took 3 people to yell STOP.. to stop him :)

Don't get me wrong OP, Ship happens.. Everyone torp a teammate now and then. even flambass torped somebody a couple days ago, I've torped how many people I don't know.. all in the heat of the battle, very close quarters combat.. trying to circle an enemy BB from both sides with a CA.. anticipated his movements.. WROOOONG! he dies... even though most of the time, people say "NP mate! That was ok" Its all my fault.. I took the risk.. Remember, everytime you are torping from behind an ally, (this sound dirtier than expected!) or around the vicinity of an ally.. You are taking a risk of torping an ally.. If that happens.. thats your fault...

In a way yes they are.. If you really, actually want to measure the impact of radar on WR with this.. you need to do that in a controlled environment.. WOWs player base, tiers and randoms.. are extremely out of control to do that thing.. you need to put.. 4 same BBs to both side.. and 3 same DDs to both sides.. then you give 5 radar cruisers to one side, 5 non radar cruisers to one side.. you need to pick very similar players to do that.. then you let them play 200(at least) Matches.. on each map... then you change DD compositions... Put different DDs.. and repeat it again. . after a year and total of 10K games.. in this controlled environment.. then you may say, how having radars affect WR against a no radar team.. I can organize this kind of an experiment, ıf you give me a pool of 100 players who are insane enough to be willing to join this :) may be we can promise a Stalingrad / Mighty mo to the participants??? :)

what is the biggest advantage of the DDs? Stealth... So, the only counter for them, is spotting them before they get close enough to you.. What can actively spot a DD? or what mechanic can prevent a DD freely push on to you? CV (the worse one) : Yes Radar : yes Hydro : hell no.. the longest ranged hydro is 6km. It is not countering DDs, it is countering solely torpedos. And 3 x 5 torp launchers.. I can easily hit a GK with hydro on.. at least 1 or 2 torps.. Other DDs : Yes Floater planes: Hell no, I can see them.. and my air detectability is smaller than the surface one RPF (RL) : Hell no... good luck chasing down a torp boat.. So in the current situation of the game, Where CVs are in scarce.. where your DDs die early.. the only weapon you can have is the radar... Nothing else.. I hate it.. but thats the situation we have to accept IMO

no I mean the navy gray.. all the navies around the world have their own Gray color for their ships.. most of them are very similar. I grew up in a navy base, as a son of a navy pilot.. I want to see that original color on the ships.. thats all :) I want to to be able to turn of all the camo visuals... that way I can wear camos to get bonuses.. but not see them .. but I am not holding my breath for this first world problem of mine :)

we've met with @Zen71_sniper and his team in CB last night. @HMS_Kilinowski was there too... that was a very lenghtly battle, which we've won at the end.. and I believe my radar timings were really good, and gave ZEN a little hard time in his YY! GG gents.. lets do this again sometime!

I just want to be able to use the camo bonuses but to be able to see the ship in its dull greyish color

I was talking about a DD going against no radars so :) and a farragut? without the ability of stealth torping, I have no idea, It was way too long ago I played that ship.. Why I'd be helpless against RPF? Do you know what is the best situation in a shima? get chased by more than 1 ship :) that is a festival for a shima captain.. and If one of them had radar... yeah.. that was the point I was making in my post, They were helpless, because they didn't have radar.. so.. yeah.. If there would be a CV, It would be way worse than having radar... But that was again, the point I was trying to make.. If you cannot reliably spot the enemy DD, who can stealth torp, you are usually helpless.. unless the DD captain makes a mistake.. Aaaaand it depends on the enemy DD... But again, the point of the radar discussion, when there is no radar, one team losing their DD early one... meanst it will be a hard battle for them and will probably be a loss. They played the objectives.. But in the end, I wasn't helpless.. I made a MISTAKE.. that was my point all along since the start.. But, long story short, These are the main counters of the DDs, Other DDs, Hydro, Radar, CV, To counter the DD, you need to spot it. and an unspotted DD is the strongest ship in a given match. That is because, again, I say, I really dont like radar, I think it needs to be changed in someway, but.. a big but.. We need radar in game.. or the DDs under the helm of the good DD mains.. will be too powerful... At least half of the games they play...