Excavatus

Dear forumities, This will be the last time I (or any other moderator) will clean up this thread from; personal attacks, insults, stat shaming, any other nonsense, non constructive posts, This thread will be locked and all of the offenders will have their share of sanctions... Please, consider this a FINAL mass friendly reminder! Have a great day.

We were just discussing the same thing in the sticky MM discussion thread, which the MM discussions should go, I am merging all of these into that.. Good day, Excavatus

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Ask me... me.. me.. It was more than 18 months ago I played ok in my Bayern, when I started with my Gneisenau... I was horrible.. I mean.. HORRRIBLE! I asked in the forum, Why do I suck in this ship?? They asked for replays.. I gave them 3.. They bashed me in a good way, educated me.. Then after just a week, I supplied 3 new replays, which I was on top of my team, did amazing things.. No body knows or learns bythemselves.. Never be ashamed for asking help.. but to ask help you should at first accept you need help.. That is the major point..

you deserve this you know that right... :P

They should add WOWs premium bonus of %65 and If they can get a hold of them, premium ship XP bonuses..

woaw.. I like this! Cheers mate

thats a 3 point skill and you need 6 points in total to get it.. no no! you cant have that!

Nonsense! you need bigger sacrifices to atone yourself.. you will convert FXP and start playing Tier 10 RU BB with a 1 point captain without a camo.. on the first day of release! Damn intelligent players.. "I see my mistakes!"

Staph! You actually talk like a player with a brain! We don't like it here!!!

don't know.. I always think WOWs grind is more brutal for Freebies compared to WOT.. But one thing is sure, Stock vehicles is just the major cause of suicidal tendencies in WOT players... That is quite ok here :)

Yeah.. that was actually my point :) If you get 2K base exp from every single game you play, and If you don't have prem acc, camos, signals, it will take you 160 battles to grind through jutland to daring If you have prem acc, camos and signals, you can do it in around 15 to 20 battles :) So, WG grind is not generous in my opinion, it is much worse than WOT.. or some other games I played.. especially after tier 8.. it is a killing grind.. If you are completely free to play and dont bother with events and missions etc. This is a very good tactic If you ask me to get people more involved into the game, and ofcourse to make them pay..

why you ignore my offer?

Ok, Moderator switch on! I've just cleaned up a little. something before turns into a insulting war. Try to be civil, stay out of personal attacks. There is way to say everything... be diplomatic.. Ok, I got you.. today.. But with one condition, we will put replays into the forum and ask better players that what we did wrong, what we could do better.. ? and accept every critism.. you guys ok with that?

There is a %400, %200 and a lot of %100 XP camos around, with %100x2 signals, %50x2 and %75x1 signal. lets say you get 2K base xp on a win, that makes 3300 XP to begin with, bonuses, camo: 13.200 XP signals: 12.375 XP Total XP: 28.875 XP You can easily get 15K on loses, and 25K on wins, If you play good and sit in top3 in your teams.. this is just a calculation :) I am not saying anything is possible or impossible :)

ok you say you tried every conceivable way... but appereantly you didn't cause you are still losing too many. One question, If you tried everything and cannot change the outcome, how people with %50, %55, %60 win ratings can win more..? What do you thing the reason for them to win more and you to lose more? Do you think it is because of MM... really?

I agree with that, can you please read the post you've quoted? I've said, a %30 of your matches are losses that you cannot do anything about and a %30 of your matches are wins that you really have to kill more than 1 teammate ıf you want to lose, I am not saying that you are losing %80 of the battles because you are playing bad. I am saying, the rest %40 decided by you... and your skill... Yes somedays MM favors you, some days it tortures you, let me give you an example from myself, These are mine.. a one week of sessions.. this what random MM means for me.. On the other hand, you are not losing 80% of your battles btw, you are losing 61 battles out of an hundred and winning 39 of them. Lets remove the 30s, out of 40 battles, your skill allows you to win 9 of them and makes you lose 31 of them. And If you still think this is because of MM, I have nothing more to say. This is a friend of mine, last weeks sessions, So probably MM really loves him... His high tier stats.. Bottom line, If you really think that MM makes you lose games, then this MM has to be set up to favor some people and to screw some other.. and I presume you agree with me that this is a ridiculous idea. Again, my aim is not stat shame, but you have to take a look at yourself, and say, how can I get better..? That is the only way to win more.. and have fun more.. thats it..

Hello Mate, you said you are fairly new here. First of all about the MM. This has been same for all WG titles. MM only considers the tiers and types of vehicles to put into a match. Teammaker you guys are asking is called, skill based Match making and it won't come. And I will not get into details here that how SBMM will be utterly devastating for bad players.. trust me. Or don't go make a research here and WOT forums about Skill based matchmaking. You will have a year worth reading material. About the stats, Almost everything about the matchmaker is random, the only constant in your games is you. So, When you have %28 WR in tier 10 battles, that means you cannot win 3 games out of 10 you played. Some players have %60 WR in tier 10s, that means they win 6 out of 10 battles, Do you really believe that they are winning those matches because MM gives them better teams? or they play better... Yes, your teams will random, Yes you will lose some battles whatever you do, but in the same time, you will win battles even If you just go to opposite border and never fire a single shell. Not going into details but a skill simulation showed, you will win and lose roughly %30 of battles you join, regardless of your contribution. the rest %40 is actually is about your skill.. If you are good, you can have %60+ WR, If you are bad you can have %35 WR and that is not the MMs fault. or your teammates' fault, It is only your fault. This %30 goes down If you go in a divison of 2 and 3 respectively. Long story short, MM has its faults, but in the long run, your stats really mean something. And If you really think you are playing even average on high tiers you have no chance to be a better player, and you will continue to be a burden for your team like you are right now. If you accept that you need improvement at least to be an average player, then that will be your first step towards a better tomorrow for you. Please don't get offended, I am writing all of this because you write like a reasonable guy so I believe you can understand what I am saying here. I have 20k+ battles in WOT MM, and 5K+ battles in WOWs MM.. your stats... really tells a story, don't be a member of the crowd who says "I don't care about stats, I play for phun!" I am not saying play for stats, but trust me, playing better, doing better and winning more really is much more fun!

I don't may be it is a bias but I always find RN cruisers much easier to citadel with HE

Exeter is so much fun to citadel with HE :)

I am sorry mate, but you don't.. nope.. not doing well.. don't get me wrong, I am not saying this to bash you, If you think you really doing well... you won't improve at all, and 38K average damage and %28,5 WR in tier X is far beyond well.. I am really sorry but it is.. You cannot give that +2 or +1 or same tier MM choice to the people, you said you have a background on game balance but this idea seems ridiculous.. That is even worse than changing MM to complete +1/-1 The thing is, in online gaming, there is a thing called BIS, (best in practice) When you give 3 choices of something to people, or even 30.. one of them deemed as BIS by players in a very short time, then %99 of the playerbase will pick that. For example, secondary speccing the german battleships are generally deemed as BIS, so, almost all Bismarcks and tirpitzs, FDGs, GKs are secondary specced.. fully or partially. There are BIS captain builds, and people try to find them and follow them, you cannot see too many people getting RPF on their harugumo or kita, and you cannot see too many people getting AFT on their shima.. Like these examples, If you give MM choices to the people, they will find the BIS, and the rest will non existent in a very short time. But I presume with your experience in balancing games, you'd already know all of these..

I personally suggest to use an existing feedback threads If you want your ideas and opinions to get heard. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean they ignore anything but with the amount of new CV threads everyday, some of them can easily can fall into the cracks. Just saying.

and I am afraid you've already done it in your previous post! :) Just give us a number thats all

If you click open all containers button, you cannot open 20 out of 180+, So, either you clicked and opened them all, or you didn't click and lost all your containers somehow, If you are certain you didn't open them all, please open a ticket in costumer support.

I am still asking for a forumite mod! Just put a flag next to their name in match list for all mod users. which will help us identify forumities... They have it in WOT and works perfectly.