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But on the same hand i somewhat survive better i think they might have moved the ballance of BB vs cruiser dmg output. who knows, time will tell.

yes i have similar feeling on NC. i fired a 6km broadside NC (he had upped hull) and did 0 damage.

sometimes the RNG does not go your way and thats the way it is. frustrating knowing you did everything well and you are still punished. i would personaly do f.e. aiming harder and less RNG but... the balance is set this way. id say that plaing BB you only establish secondary parameters of your succes: being well positioned, aim enemy at teh middle of your disspersion, avoid torpedos. actually doing any damage, thats the dice roll.

well ive left colorado before patch and i must tell you, that i overall (for all the grind) hit two BB citadels on ships T7 or higher. one was 13km tizpitz and the other was close range nagato. Yes, its a bad ship, it has its plus sides. + maybe you dont remember, but it was actually boosted on latest pre 0.5.0.0 patch. now bear in mind i have some 53k avarage dmg on it, part was pre boost, par post boost. They boosted arti. it was still shotgun like hell, but at least some pens did occur. so im not a briliant colorado player. But, it really has its plus sides. 1) its small, turns hard. small target for torps, small target for guns. 2) armour: while HE spam will finish you off due to small HP pool, your broad can take a bit of beating, as well as your belt 3) low priority. in T8 games its a low priority target. unless you charge like Theoden, youve got a good chance that nobody will bother you. this makes you rather survivable if angeled and played right. you will deal dmg over time. i now have NC and fire on colorados only if they are broadside and i have no better targets

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you know... i wuold rahter watch a 15 sec commercial prior to each battle for less agresive economy model

oh no, i like her a lot. however i rarely fire 9 guns. frontal armour for the win. she has weak brodside, even angeled to the point that you would fire with 9 you can be penetrated. but ive tanked some insane damage with her frontside. last game i rode in the back of the enemy (at that time without upgraded hull) 3 cruisers turned at me, 2 tirpitzes and amagi and CV. i had a friend CV ingame, so planes didnt get trough. go full backwards and pointitng ship at them, firing only frontal of course. destoryed 1 new orleans first, cleve after that. amagi stood broadsite to me and they got me to 5k some at one point but ive survived to the end of the battle. thats where she is strong. but she has to be played tight. and i dont think her turrets are anything phenomenal. by the way, did you notice that with upgraded hull the ship somewhat rises from the water? eventhough she was to be heavier that way

Yes, they want to milk the cow. they know its attractive, and they take advanage of it. Look at Martin Shkreli. You cannot balme them. They want to have dem dollarz in their pockets. But it reached point, where their economy ruins gameplay in general for th reasons i wrote above. I have too purchased dubleons and did that on voluntary basis. Milking a cow? yeah sure! to the point t ruins gameplay? thats a huge oh-no-no.

Hi all, ive been thinking about the gameplay as it got to higher tiers. Im currently on NC, so ive seen my share of high tier battles. It feels wrong. I think that there are more problems, but most imporatant of them is overpopulation of BBs. This leads to poor game experience for cruisers and wierd ballance for CVs and DDs due to that. now, i think that inter class balance it very good apart from BB dispersion, which is there to counter the poor state cruisers are in. Now what can be done not to upset the ballance, stop cries that BBs have much higher avarege dmg than cruisers and make the gameplay better? You could, of course, modify MM with yet more regulations... or? you could motivate people to want to play cruiser enocomicaly. I've beenthinkg about this for quite some time. lets face it, even for WG, economy model is extremely aggresive. For a BB player thats a solvable problem. you use your amour for protection, pick your shots and in the end you do enough damage to be in positive numbers. CVs can do the same, DDs can hide and await their chances withnout risk. Crusiers cant deal with this situation well. Only thing cruiser is good for is hunting other cruisers, hurt BBs while they are surrounded or hunt DDs if they behave stupid. so here is my proposition: Reduce service cost of Cruisers and DDs (T8 and above)- with increased number of cruisers in game a lot would change. better enviroment for cruisers themselves, possibly better teamplay because BBs would be more valued as the become rarer. all things considered all would move for the better. now i must admit i dont own T8 cruiser yet, i have T7 one, but the service cost was more or less equal to that of my Colorado at the time. i hope that thing ive suggested is not implemented yet.

Maybe, but as i said, in most games i manage not to lose money on BB. BBs and CVs can somewhat deal with the situation. it taugth me how to be effective and yet survivable. and i fully realize taht this tactics cannot be employed by cruiser. they have no options. i can manage. hence they should be helped (i also think that BB survival would increase with more cruisers due to paper rock scissor balance, so it would be better for everyone )

NC is good because its balanced. it has nice AA, nice arti nice armour. but there are ships that are better than NC in single of those parameters. anyway maybe you got lucky. or maybe izumo has some super hull. the dispersion of NCs guns is what is killing me

maybe its relative to tier? dont know, NC arti is nto phenomenal. yesterday i could not citadel broadside izumo from 10kms....

please tell me where are the citadels on atago... uive hit so many bb salvos on it, rarely hit citadel

Hello, just wanted to let you know. after the patch earned xp on my ships as well as purchased dubleons didnt show correctly (at all ) relog helped. so dont panic and relog

The thing that aim mod is helping with is assessing speed which is sometimes difficluit. on see, with no refference, its quite hard to guess if target is doing full or 3/4. ive missed few salvos because of bad judgement so i would say it is a big deal. or they could add aim mod into game, as consumable f.e. in the end it falls to predicting target manuvering and rng

ne, Fuso je silnejší loď než NM. nicméně obě jsou to skvělé lodě. NM vs Fuso 1v1 bude asi skutečně ve prospěch NM. Fuso má ale přesnější děla, je rychlejší a obecně bude v bitvě o trochu víc užitečné. ale opakuju, obě to jsou skvělé lodě.

NC mám náhodou taky, je to dobrá loď, ale musíte znát její charakteristiky a hlavně charakteristiky soupeřů. T4 až 7 US BB byly lodě typu superdreadnougth >silné pancéřování a především belt, pomalé a i rozměrově malé. T8 je první fast battleship > je rychlá a podle washingtonské dohody, v jejímž omezení vznikla, má kvůli tomu slabší pancéřování. Já nemám s NC nejaké skvělé skóre. po 11 bitvách mám něco před 50k průměrné dmg, ale postupně se to zvyšuje. jaké výhody má proti superdreadnoughtům? především silné pancéřování paluby, superstruktury a turretů, rychlosti a většinu firepower vpředu. jaké má nevýhody? slabé boční pancéřování a velký poloměr otáčení. Má však rychlejší střely, se kterými je trochu snazší se na dlouhou vzdálenost trefit. Je důležité mít pro ni u kapitána vylepšení AA stejně jako u samotné lodi, je to velmi silná stránka NC. a je také důležité mít u kapitána i u lodi sníženou šanci na hoření. Jak ji hrát? zatím jsem nepřišel na způsob, jak ji opravdu plně utilizovat. pořád má velký rozptyl střel. několik pravidel bych pro Vás ovšem měl. 1) kašlete na zadní turret. je to sice třetina vašich střel, ale nestojí to za to otočit se k lidem bokem. snažte se jet vždy přesně přídí k jiné BB, která po vás střílí. Cruisery Vás penetrovat nebudou, pokud budete aspoň trochu pod úhlem jste safe. (je jedno, jestli na tu BB střílíte nebo jestli ničíte cruisery, buďte čelem k BB - pokud se ukážete kolmo broadside k jiné BB, zabije Vás) 2) nebojte se couvat. když hrajete proti amagi, tirpitzu nebo tak, nemůžete absolutně konkurovat jejich pancéřování a v boji z blízka Vás zničí. zkrátka pokud jedou na Vás, tak špičkou k nim a plný zpětný. 3) přemýšlejte dopředu. starší lodě byly, ačkoliv pomalé, vždy docela hbité, dalo se dobře vyhýbat torpédům. u NC to neplatí. a navíc je mnohem větší cíl. když víte o destrovi, prostě měňte směr a rychlost preventivně. 4) NC má velmi silné AA a slabý belt, proto svá AA zaměřujte na torpédové bombardéry a vždy se jim otáčejte přídí vstříc. Hlavně se snažte přežít, neodhalovat se, a s časem uděláte poškození, které chcete.

What mostly annoys me is, that you are captain of your ship. you arent a commander of a tank... a russian conscript who has been thrown into T34. you are a captain. you would be informed about everyhing. you would know exact layout of your armour, exact parameters of your artilery, everyhting. WG does not give it to us, which is annoying. f.e. colorado has much worse penetration than new mexico, despite it having larger caliber. id like to fully utilize my ship, id like to know everyhing :/

Nice game bro, noone can take that from you. I have a question for DtXpwnz. when you win you have 1.5x exp? do you know any more of this mechanics? like credists par dmg or such things?

why to people at all cry about Kawachi? i do not understand that. Sure, it's bad, its so slow that in few games i didnt get to shoot at anything. it has somewhat shotguney characteristics (and sawed off one), burns like a pyre. but? whats the catch? IT'S A TIER 3 SHIP you need only little xp to be done with it. just a few, painful, but few games. stop complaining, skipping, crying and just get on with it. IJN BBs are good. and ive grinded trough colorado, trust me, i know what pain is

try colorado dude i now have NC, but if i counted all the citadels i hit on the BBs of my tier, my fingers be enough how i envy nagato its HP, rather formidable armour so cruisers dont sink you so well and speed

kluci se stestim tu nezacinejte pac na muj vycet smuly by nestacila stranka nicmene co se cleava tyce, tak bud strilet citadely mezi prednima turretama a kominem nebo presne pod predni turret. pokud mate BB tak to rozptyl vetsinou zamiri za vas a urcite se to trefit da 203mm kanonem to propalit jde v klidu, 152mm (ci kolik to cleav a nizsi maji) to temer nejde mam pocit. parkrat jsem ho penetroval omahou asi z tri kilometru kdyz byl ke me presne bokem.

Im also a NC noob, ive grinded trough colorado. At first i admire frontal firepower and also turrets seem so much more quick eventhough i havent retrained my commander yet. the weak side armour is a bummer. you have to stay far. you will get penetrated easily. as said before you have to keep distance from tirpitzes, but if there is anybody who will take the damage, then dont wait a second and sail at it. from close you can destroy tubes and get decent (not citadel, but comparabel damage) salvos. what really gets me is the repair cost ammo and repair is usualy 110k or more... the economy is broken so you have to shop for dubleons. i didnt find a "good" way to play it yet. ive figured some very bad plays and some decent. keeping at 12km and not revealing your broadsice does a lot. Does armor increase with pimped out hull?

Yes, that is true. sometimes even i, with colorado, do that. but in battle it's not so simple. ofc in lategame when you are alone this situation blows. but when you are not alone, position yourself right, zigzag an keep acurate distance for you (into BB? 13km is quite ok) and i wont even fire at you, because chance of hitting is so low that its not constructive to waste reload time and id rahter choose broadside BB, eventhough ill do only a fraction of possible damage. if you go broadside to me, allow me to take good aim, i will fire at you. preferably to DDs or BBs. but then again, if you do this, you deserve to die (unless the shotgunnes of my Colorado spares you, which happens painfully often).

i dont know if you sit on your lines or what. the balance goes like this Battleships>Cruisers>Destroyers>Battleships it's a close cycle. do you see DD players complaining that Cruisers take them out easily? no (sometimes with noobs) because thats natural, same goes for Cruisers and BBs... some of you cry here over valid game mechanics. and being a BB who got isolated and or cannot run away, you are turkeyshot for destro. Im mostly BB player (with colorado i have to cry even when cruisers shoot me up), but i have also cruiser (pensa) and also DD (nicholas). from all those classes balance seems fine, id only boost torp damage and give it some rng (and thats coming from a BB player). Cruisers should not be viable oponents to BB, so dont cry that they are not.