thorkill77

Jawohl i do know it has been out for awhile, i bought it on release day. :p I wasnt asking for long range snipers, i was hoping to hit a ship at 7 km, wich is easy if play a cruiser, but can be a lottery on Tirpitz. But sure, i was hoping for a German BB that was able to shoot accuratly over its entire gunrange. It would be quite fitting both to her and Bismarck. Also regarding blindfire, mentioned in another and earlier in this thread: Both HMS Suffolk and HMS Norfolk was shadowing Bismarck tru the night while waiting for dawn(to keep track of Bismarck for the heavier BB`s), and they both had to leave the area because Bismarck used radars and fired at em in cloudy, nighttime dark conditions. It wasnt exactly super accurate, but accurate enough for both Cruisers to get cold feets and turn around to relative safety.....

Also, get youre facts straight.... The German Battleships are currently undergoing their shakedown test cruise and we're looking forward to sharing the date of their maiden voyage on the public server in the near future. Luckily, that leaves you some time to learn German... Schlachtschiffe aus Deutschland Battleships made in Germany Pure Kraft Raw power Deutsche Präzision German precision Sprecht ihr Deutsch? Do you speak German? So yea... they actually did hype the German line up, telling it was a precision tools on the battlefield, yet it clearly isnt. The precision is rubbish. If you want to see it for yourself: http://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/ze-germans-coming/

In a arcada game, why do they "have to be different"? Why cant it be "balanced". What i been saying all along is that i am tired of the "difference" and the way this "difference" has been implemented. What i would like to see is balance, and also i would have enjoyed a rather true to history ships, since they already taken so mutch efforts copying everything from theyre names to theyre sizes, to theyre general capabilities. These are the same exact feelings i had from WoT and these thoughts are really close to cutting me off this game. Especially when i consider the costs of this game(10-40 euro pr ship, plus premium time, pay to respec the captain, etc) This is by far, the most expensive game i have been around. Lately i tried lots of different blockbuster games, the price for 1 game the same as for 1 ship in this game. So in the end it is not living up to my expectations since they are altering well known key features of all these vehicles(tanks and ships). To the benefit of a certain region. But key words is this "arcade game" does not have to "different", like in: the eastern are very much better, than the western(that is for sure different in itself, i give you that.)

Yes youre intelect really shines tru with youre deep insight. If it is such a arcada game, why they(WG) hype the german ships in theyre own adverts? "German engineering, german precision, german steel etc" and yet they make the ship not like it? IF they(WG) could just write: "German shait, useles underpowered crap" and kept honest about it, it have been so much better(from the consumers pov). But to actively adverts this German line as a precision tool on the battlefield, when it isnt..... I think you sound swedish, and you probably dont have more to bring to the table than youre shait quote you already posted anyways. Basicly thats all i could read from youre post

I am so tired of the WG universe, yet i enjoy the game. In world of tanks i started with German tanks(especialy Tiger 1), i was in the 45-50% win rate, with poor damage and kill ratio. Later i needed the IS3 for clan fights and so i started the russian heavy line, so when i came to the IS, i realised how frikkin good it is; over 2 in kill/death ratio, 62% winrate(lel pwnage) etc. So World of Warships..... For me i have read the book "The hunt for Bismarck) written by some in the English admirality who was directly involved in hunting her down. It was well known that the German guns(Bis/Tirp) and optical train was extremly accurate, it was at the time unprecedented with a straddling first salvo(Hood) at that time, yet that was what Bismarck/Tirpitz was able to do. If they had made the ship(Bis/Tirp) with that feature(accuracy) i wouldnt have cared if it had wooden armor, it would still have been more fitting to the ship, and it`s history than how it ended in the game. Playing Tirpitz feels like playing a lottery, salvos goes to short and to far in the same frikkin salvo, from 7 km. Then see the tier 6 russki cruiser with tier 9 guns etc it feels wrong, all the way deep inside my brain. I gonna start the German BB line, i gonna stick this out alittle longer, but i am so close to leaving this game producer, because of the russki bias. I dont have anything against the russians(in general), but this game(and World of Tanks) feels more like a propaganda machinery, than it feels like a "World of......". Maybe if they emphasised that these tanks and ships have nothing to do with real life, but why are they dublicating real world ships, real ships names, then bias the whole thing to a russian propagada tool? I really hope someone in the top office take a long look in the mirror, and the history books, i doubt it happening tho. A few last words, my granddad took me to see Tirpitz resting place, with her hull upside down. He was a big fan of German engineering, and work ethics(he was a engineer himself), that is part of the reason i bought Tirpitz immediatly. The fact i have read the book 25 times over 25 years is part of the reason i want Bismarck aswell. Yet i am really close to leaving this propaganda machinery. As with world of tanks, this russian bias doesnt give me the right feeling, it doesnt add up, to my previous knowledge of historical facts. Ps Reading KMS_Tirpitz thoughts since last year, whom i fully agree with(he knows his stuff, and i can understand 100% how disapointed a guy like him must be!), i am now grabbing my popcorn and awaits the Royal Navy horde, aswell as some threats from Russian lovers, and also the Yankee clan. Bye!

I am so tired of the WG universe, yet i enjoy the game. In world of tanks i started with German tanks(especialy Tiger 1), i was in the 45-50% win rate, with poor damage and kill ratio. Later i needed the IS3 for clan fights and so i started the russian heavy line, so when i came to the IS, i realised how frikkin good it is; over 2 in kill/death ratio, 62% winrate(lel pwnage) etc. So World of Warships..... For me i have read the book "The hunt for Bismarck) written by some in the English admirality who was directly involved in hunting her down. It was well known that the German guns(Bis/Tirp) and optical train was extremly accurate, it was at the time unprecedented with a straddling first salvo(Hood) at that time, yet that was what Bismarck/Tirpitz was able to do. If they had made the ship(Bis/Tirp) with that feature(accuracy) i wouldnt have cared if it had wooden armor, it would still have been more fitting to the ship, and it`s history than how it ended in the game. Playing Tirpitz feels like playing a lottery, salvos goes to short and to far in the same frikkin salvo, from 7 km. Then see the tier 6 russki cruiser with tier 9 guns etc it feels wrong, all the way deep inside my brain. I gonna start the German BB line, i gonna stick this out alittle longer, but i am so close to leaving this game producer, because of the russki bias. I dont have anything against the russians(in general), but this game(and World of Tanks) feels more like a propaganda machinery, than it feels like a "World of......". Maybe if they emphasised that these tanks and ships have nothing to do with real life, but why are they dublicating real world ships, real ships names, then bias the whole thing to a russian propagada tool? I really hope someone in the top office take a long look in the mirror, and the history books, i doubt it happening tho. A few last words, my granddad took me to see Tirpitz resting place, with her hull upside down. He was a big fan of German engineering, and work ethics(he was a engineer himself), that is part of the reason i bought Tirpitz immediatly. The fact i have read the book 25 times over 25 years is part of the reason i want Bismarck aswell. Yet i am really close to leaving this propaganda machinery. As with world of tanks, this russian bias doesnt give me the right feeling, it doesnt add up, to my previous knowledge of historical facts. Ps Reading KMS_Tirpitz thoughts since last year, whom i fully agree with(he knows his stuff, and i can understand 100% how disapointed a guy like him must be!), i am now grabbing my popcorn and awaits the Royal Navy horde, aswell as some threats from Russian lovers, and also the Yankee clan. Bye!

With all that rename it *Victorinox Swiss Army* lol. Ship is fine, fine to hang around the "home fleet" and see how the battles unfold, and then react, find a busy wounded ship or intercept airplanes you see on a mission for youre cv or bb. You get spotted late in the ship, use that. Meanwhile just hang close to where you might be needed in a minute or three. If you hang around a BB who getting fire from another BB pluss a cruiser, move to 11-12 km then turn all guns and start fire, 3-4 full salvos, then *As soon as, or even alittle before* shells start landing around you turn 180 degree max speed and get out of range. If it is hot start the 180 turn after first salvo from 11-12km and keep firing all they way back. On return always keep stern straight towards the ship firing at you. That way just a single shell or 2 lands on you. You maybe lose 5000 or 10000, or just 2500hp and live for another attack. Meanwhile the ship you where protecting are landing good hits on enemies trying to get "a easy atlanta kill". Then rinse and repeat, never let the enemy ship get time to aim in on you, it shouldnt know about you before you already landed a few full salvos and turning back out to 13-15 km and getting undetected again. Unless you think you can finish the jobb with some creative charging. This tactic works for me, i last longer than usual at least. I would liked a radar though, or smoke, but everything + better armor gonna kill the fragile fun of ship. On open sea map ship is not fun, maybe smoke had make that better. I dont really feel the need for better torps, 4.5km is ok. Nevertheless this ship is to me much more fun than i get from New Orleans, wich aint giving me the blues. Yet. If beeing a slight underdog but with some special tools dont apeal you shouldnt have bought it, it was written about the Atlanta she was fragile. It was the ship i lost most in, i performed worst in, yet after i dont know how many battles it came out quite brilliant, and from there i liked it.

YES! I like the Atlanta! It is different but with a skilled captain and a laid back CV/BB support role, and with a hit & run style she has the most commiting style of play compared to the cruisers i played. I use to stay undetected, slightly behind but close to a unsupported BB, either waiting for a DD trying to get the BB or other threats closing in wich are focused on the BB and not aware of me. A full firing, charging Atlanta while opponent just fired against the BB either scare the opponent off, or he sinks, as long as the BB fires with me at least, and it usualy does returning the favour. Ofcourse there is sometimes better support my teams capping DD`s or sometimes protect a carrier. Supporting DD`s i have warried succes because Atlanta is fragile but on the maps and positions it works it can be good fun. Protecting CV`s is dull in the beginning, especially if no planes comes, but it can be some really intense late battles this way. Problem i often find with this is i am not helping the rest of the team, and the succesful winrates on these battles are lower than if i played more aggressive. Still those games where you do protect the CV from a attack and the team go on to win the battle feels great! Atlanta can easily fill many roles, and for me it started to work OK after captain got more experience, and i tried play more undetected, hit & run tactics!