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Extra 50 HP per tier of ship. DD all the way for both commanders

at what point did i ridicule him.. Saying he douse not have much experience in Gun boat DD play when he has 4 games in tier 6+ gunboat DD's in random is in no way ridiculing its just stating a fact. Just about the only person on this thread ridiculing is the original poster when he called all the previous posters simple and other things in his comment #13.

is she..... Im in work have not checked the store.....

@IanH755 this is getting stuppid 1, I have not stat flamed you and i have made no comment about you playing ability. I just pointed out you do not have much experience in DD gunboat game play. 2, As for lying Title of thread is about Cossack a gunboat DD mission is available to Cossack and Le terrible both gun boat DDs so disusing in context of gun boat DD is all that is relevant. and you first post about relevance of the mission was about HMS Cossack. you only later tried to claim it was about any DD 3, There are currently 6 DD tech lines in the game and around 70+ different DDs with many many different play stiles (and i have played almost all of them) so should A mission be relevant for any DD is just Rubbish. Example We get a mission next week for shoot down 30 planes in ######## DD is this mission relevant for a DD Well if ######## is the Shimakaze its not relevant and its a very bad mission, But if the mission is Grozovoi it is very relevant. so ok i will answer your direct question in post Should WG Be Making A DD "Tanking" Mission - NO!!!!!! Should WG Be Making A DD "Spotting" Mission - YES!!!!! My answer: Im sorry this is a silly and not relevant question as there are many many DDs in the game with different play stiles what is relevant for one DD tech line or DD is not relevant for another DD tech line or DD. Try taking a un stealth skilled Khabarovsk with 10km detection and see how much spotting damage you get so back to you original post #13 that is completely different from the first post and the title of the thread. is 750k potential damage a relevant mission for HMS Cossack or Le Terrible answer = YES it is very much so (ow and as a Super Tester i have played Le Terrible i don't believe i am braking my NDA by saying this mission is relevant) is 750k Potential damage relevant for any DD in game.......... What a dumb question as different DDs play vary differently. and DDs in game very from 7k HP at tier II to 22k+ HP at tier X. what is a good mission for one DD is Le Terrible (see what i did there ) for another Get over the BUTT hurt you are feeling that most people see no issue with mission as its restricted to 2 very gun boaty DDs and gun boat DDs tend to accrue a lot of potential damage. another example of a missions we have had in past.. Im pretty sure there was a mission for a DD in the past.. sink a ship and be stealthed at the time.... Try that in a Khabarosk

At no point was I stat flaming, Stat flaming is saying im a better player or you a crap player. I was saying he has little or no experience.. as I said I was pointing out he had very little to no experience in DD gunboat game play in PVP.. If he had such experience he would not have been asking the question "Is potential damage a relevant mission for a Gunboat DD" The only way you can take a gunboat DD out for a match and not take oodles of potential damage is if you only fire when hiding in smoke. (you wont be very productive for you team) or if you only fire your guns when you come across a very isolated enemy ship. (again you will not be productive) or hiding behind an island (also not very effective) and if you get detected while not moving you have lost two of a DD's main defences Speed/manoeuvrability @IanH755 keeps stating tanking is a BB trait. It is but its also a gunboat DD trait. Also this is NOT world of tanks.. Spotting damage potential is very very limited. as as soon as a ship fires they can almost always be seen. @IanH755 is mixing up the DD role to Scout as spotting damage its not. A DD finds the enemy and keeps him found if he is refusing to fire. but as soon as said enemy fires his guns the DD scouting role is pretty much dune as he will not get any spotting damage. Torp boats can scout and stay hidden (and spot) while trying torp the enemy. IF a gunboat DD scouts and keeps guns quite and relies on his team to shoot and kill these targets he is in for a poor match. Gun boat DDs use there guns and as soon as they do they get potential damage from the incoming fire

No. I think you are the one that douse not understand. You have almost no experience in DD gunboat game-play in Random battles.(and most of the posters you are calling out DO have Experience in Gunboat DD play) You have played 37 Different DD in Co-OP and only 18 DDs played in PvP of them only 4 games in a tier VI+ Gunboat DD that being the Benson. Cossack is a GUN boat.. one of the main parts of GUN boat DD game play is learning to avoid incoming fire. Take a Gun boat out in a tier VIII game and play her properly 500K plus potential damage is a normal game. Over 1 million potential damage in a Tier VIII is quite common. So YES a tier VIII tanking mission in a GUN boat DD is VERY VERY relevant. Yes I play DDs with over 5k games in DD in Random battles and 82 DDs taken in to matches, to save you checking my profile. I have Extensive gunboat DD experience..... (Yep im Crap in my Khaba has taken me a long time to work out how to play her) in the below picture I have filtered out the IJN DDs as they are primarily Torpedo boats

I guess that means LE Terrible is about to be released... at least its only one(In each stage) of the missions thats Cossack only

Like many DD Players I'm waiting for the T61'. Why.. Well despite what people say she is a real ship that was built and Lunched in Holland during the war.. Even saw action.. Well Kind of.. She was Sunk in the Waddenzee (of coasts of Holland) by the RAF while on the way to Poland for Fitting out. Not sure if she was under her own power or was being Towed. She is a Sudo Dutch ship..... So Keeps those Lowlanders happy. She is a German Prem DD. DD players want that IS she OP as she stands.... MMM hell yes Simple fix she has the same torps as the Gaede so make the reload the same. not over 20 Seconds faster like she is at the moment So i here you say if do! that and whats the point of her, Just use the Guede as the Guede has 1800 extra HP. Well T61 has faster loading and longer range guns and she is smaller (hence less HP) so is a better CAP contester as her Detection is only 7.02 (so 0.5KM less). She is a German Prem DD something we do not have. Thats my View. What do you think??.... Be Sensible Boys and Girls.. Lets See if we cant give WarGaming some ideas and thus enable us to get this DD released Something First promised in December last year

You are of cause correct the Clue she is a J class is in her name... I believe the differences were non existent the three classes donated the Flotilla

and you can buy the Stalingrad as its a Reward ship for Steel.. the outcry if you could buy steel for Dubloons/Cash to buy these reward ships would be HUGE. They have already brought a lovely thing with the introduction of Steel that we can get these reward ships with a mix or CLAN Battles/RANKED battles and Mission. I want the Black but Ranked drives me NUTS. But a few seasons of CLAN battles (if the steel rewards are like the last season and i can get the black.

Elite ship XP to Elite captain XP.. If they did this players would accumulate HUGE amounts for Commander XP and every ship would have 19 point commanders. would defeat the hole reason for having said XP. OK i play to much..I have 15 19 point commandes and uncountable 15+ point commanders I have will over 1,000,000 commander XP and 2.200.00 free XP (that can also be used as Commander XP) Like you say you have millions of elite XP. well wargaming want you to spend Doubloons to convert this to free XP, Thats probably one of the main ways they make cash after Prem time (if you look at the number of players that jump hole tech trees to tier X when a new tech line is released) I just cant see wargaming jeopardising one of there main ways of making money and keeping this game free for so many players

I like her.. and do ok in her.. BUT SOOOOOO many dont i did not bother to mention her.. also sorry the others are more fun. for me almost all the tier 6 and 7 DDs are great OWWW forgot that one yes she is great

we came to the conclusion it must have been lag or something

CA i would say FIJI DD OMG there are so many NON Prem Gadjah Mada (N CLASS DD) Warning 1,if WG have any sense this ship has a NURF incoming its SOOOOOOO OP Warning 2, torp cant harm enemy DD Javis (Proper N CLASS) Gadjah Mada douse every thing a little better BUT this baby has better smoke and Torps that can harm DD In my Opinion these 2 boats probably have the best DD guns at tier VII Prem Haida( Its a Tribal) Douse surprisingly well for a boat with only 1 set of torps good guns/smoke and hydro Z-39 the 15 cm guns take some getting used to on a DD.. But those Citadel on unsuspecting CA's are great and torps are more than usable. Also huge HP pool for a tier VII DD and Hydro Lenningrad Fast boat, Good guns ok torps, difficult to master.... Ow and she is fast SIMS Good guns GREAT AA (still catches CV players out) Torps a BAD a hit douse very little damage and are sooo slow hitting is more luck than skill

Defiantly easiest in COOP took my République out in COOP to do this.. Sailed between AI Yamato and there République at 4-5km range (would have been sooooooooo DEAD in Random) almost 400 Secondary hist in one match

Never said it was... But I supper tested the Daring and said she was one of the most comfortable DD's in the game. Cant say anything more about her then because NDA but your comments that its strong because of the players that are playing it is wrong as the OP is blatantly NOT a Unicum.

The very fact the OP has posted makes you statement wrong

somebody douse every few months so if you dont they will... normally its one of my wonderful CLAN mates

WILL you let this DIE WILL YOU NEVER LET ME LIVE THIS ONE DOWN.................................... @MrConway @Crysantos Maybe I should get some unique in game Badge/Flag for this achievement...

Not sure about Randoms but in Clan battles its Epic. One of our BB commanders swore by it. Specked ship and commander for rapid fire.. cant remember how short he got his reload. But it seemed some CA had a slower ROF (at least to the output of shells he was blasting)

RN DDs... high tiers definitely need IFHE

Because i would guess the Australians/Canadians and other Commonwealth ships that may come in to the game. People from those places probably like not being Roped in with the British ships..

true.. i'm not sure i like he idea of (name of warship)@(Year) however.. There is just one reason i would like that..... if we had about 3 more tiers bellow tier 3 so we could some 1900-1920 game play.. then we could have things like Warspite 1916 and warspite 1944. One of my biggest hates in this game that we only realy have tier 2 and 3 dealing with WW1 and even then there is a smattering of late 20s early 30s config at tier 3..... How much fun would a new game mode called epic battles be... 20 or 30 ships a team on the bigger late tier maps.. but only WW1 CA/BB/DD. As for the releasing Belfast it can be difficult to see if a ship is truly OP with a limited SP. Another option would give people the chance to buy the ship at a discount in first month r so but you have to be aware it may be nerfed. then you would get chance for a proper evaluation. After all just look at my stats. I did better in Fiji than i do in Belfast... Fiji is not OP, Belfast however,,,, well i dont think anyone could argue she is not a little OP

They could but Museum ships sell.... and they could put links in with the museum.... One of wargaming biggest mistakes is withdrawing HMS Belfast from sale instead of nerfing her. The largest Museum ship on the continent and there is no tie ins with the game .

995 and im a prolific DD player...