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The ones in Bold are the best ships to learn.... Advice... maybe wait a month though CV's in games is already calming down a lot.. leave it a bit longer. Also unless im mistaken there are changes coming to help DD game play against CV. Kamakazi most OP torp boat in the game T-61 is just strong as hell with very fast torp reload. She is good at every thing( yes even the guns are good) Z39 nice strong boat Kidd US gun boat with heal.. Great for when you make a mistake There are loads of strong boats in your list Okhotnik is amazing fun. (but i think you need experience) Gremyashchy The only DD in game i have not played. supposed to be good. Le Terrible avoid till experienced. Aigle is better but still and Experienced player needed to make work Asashio I Would not try this ship to learn with. Torps that only go against CV and BB she is not a DD to learn DD gameplay Haida nice strong DD. only 1 set of torps though All the other DD's are nice IMPORTANT ADVICE Free XP 10 point commanders for these ships.. if you going to start at tier 5+ Take the 3rd skill HP increase (superintendent) and of cause the 4 point Stealth skill. I would play around a bit with the tier 2 DDs as well.. its worth it just for the LOLs My Credentials 87 in games DDs played and 5400 matches in random games in DD

Thats a little wrong.. he means the in match warning when you hit a friendly or collision damage..

Hermelin..... Blackswan all the way baby

ok this is extreme spit-balling and it douse not take in to account players bringing out multiple classes and Low and high tier but from http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/pastrecords/index.html 2 months ending in 16/02 Ships were brought to matches 28,122,507 buy 233,440 players so average of 120 games a over 2 months almost same period last year 2 months ending 10/02 Ships were brought to matches 20,418,071 by 193,715 players so average of 105 games a over 2 months as i say numbers are very very rough but it douse suggest more players playing more games... Now there are so many contributing factors (snow flake mission for one). But it douse suggest the numbers are increasing not going down.. As for players like yourself. Your a long term player with Many battles. Its not surprising that many long term players like yourself play less.. That's normal. EDIT Thinking about it.. these numbers are Random battles.. Snow flake mission probably had a negative effect of random games as players like myself with over 170 ships in port played CooP for the win to knock the snowflake of as it was much easier.

Interesting Information from a NA CC. Apparently numbers of players is still GROWING

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I want a clan bank for such stuff.... we have amazing players in scrubs but they just dont have the ships we need them to have.... the day we have a bank 1 million would be deposited

Tell me about it... im just short of 4 million free xp....

Im really confused PEF is not a bad ship..... why do people keep using her as an example of bad ship releases. she was free for most of us, and performs in the top 3rd of the tree for all tier 6 BBs. OK she is not super Exiting to play.. but to be frank few BB's are... want thrills and a german tier 6 prem? get the T61..

IF i had to hazard a guess is because she is a free XP ship. I guess people will be more pissed if there are big changes and they wasted there in game rare Free XP. Also, and im being Cynical here..... (what me cynical against WG) They want people to spend free XP to climb the CV trees.... I would not be at all surprised if the RN CV are released before Alaska.

With 78 prem ships currently released or released and removed in game... I think wargaming should just give you the bloody ships you don't have if you have all but a couple of them......

The only DD I do not have is the Gremy.. (never planned to play RU ships in games is never bought her when i had the chance.. I also have 55 prem ships in port.. I would NEVER buy any type of crate for a small Random chance of one of the removed ships i do not have

Any one that bought santa boxes on the 0.000000001 chance of getting one of the removed OP ships is a Fool of the highest proportions. Not at all.....

No because she is OP... there is good reason she was removed and despite having her and playing her a lot i have been vocal that she should have been Nerfed and have the same Torps as the Minikaze. I would not be against the idea that OP ships removed from sale can not be played in Ranked or Clan battles.

What changes were mad after her realease.... MMMM none. Changes made while still in Supertesting are part of the supertest process.

Trust me I think the Ranked bundles were Crap( i may have even said so on the forum).. Not least as the ships were only usefull for a few of the ranks.. As for the sprints.. the rewards were no where close to good enough to buy a ship just for the sprint. As for the ship sin the picture... you cant deny all of them are very very strong.. But Missouri.. I dont think it was ever intended for her to be permanently available.. This is the case for ALL Free XP ships. There always intended to be limited. Gremy is a special case as she has never been available outside closed beta.

Im a supertester as well... we get some bragging badges... I'm a new one so only get a bronze...

See thats the power of a Quality poster asking WG a question... The fix the issue seconds later....

Mainly so you can use you 19 point CA commander that is in you tier X ship without needing a second commander. Or just because you a collector or like the look.. but i get what you are saying I would not have bought the Iron duke as we have the Duke of your in the tech tree.. (but i got her from mission)

Is she available in game for Dubloons/Steel/coal or free XP??? Im surprised at her only being available in bundles..... @MrConway I thought WG had promised to stopped releasing ships only in bundles years ago? where is the ship and port alone option?

There are weak ships in the game but apart from global changes name one weak ship that was targeted with Nerfs? because i cant think of any.... I agree with manys posts that buying prems while the hole CV balance is being played out is probably not best idea. But this hole thing. Also go look at the stats she is in the top 3rd of the BB tier 6 tree in all results. so she is not a weak ship.....

If its worse then the Tech tree Version why would it be nurfed... OMG come on the ships they have Nerfed in the past deserved it.. an dname me one Prem that was removed for being OP that was not indeed OP

If you did not read the Forum or the web sight Why would you think XP would be refunded in any way other than other ships.. why is the option still there this long after the patch. to give players a chance to decide if they like the changes to the cV lines or there Prem CV's.. some players may not have logged on since the change.. or players like me. In my case im a super testers.. I have had 1 game in coop in my Siapan (for the steel) and have not even touched my USN and IJN CV's as i have been testing the royal navy ones.. sorry mate but im pretty sure you are in the maybe 1 or 2 percent that did not understand. Watgaming F##k up in the communication often.. Yes this is a quality poster and super tester and if you believe some all around brown noser saying this.. But in this case its been completely clear

I would diagree Most played tier 7-8 prem ships.. Tirpitz/Atlanta and Atago I dont think these ships have ever been thought OP.. Infact Tirpitz has been buffed a few times. she was still hugely popular before the buffs.

They have been VERY VERY Clear this is a test to check the idea of uptearing instead of removing.. IF they go with the idea they have already said they will probably revisit some withdrawn ships and look if the same is possible. GC is just the testbed for the idea. Well this is out of left field.... just about the only thing people have agreed in all these pages of posts is she is indeed OP. It did not take long after release for her to be recommended to players by there friends for this very reason.