1MajorKoenig

Hehe... Daran haben sich die meisten hier gewöhnt. Alles andere hätte viel zu viel Sinn ergeben. Mein Tipp: Donnerstag. Dann liegt Graf Spee bei ganz vielen unterm Bäumchen

How can anyone be sad if the awesome Koenig Albert shows up? ;-) I already bought her last time but good to see that she is not banned like Nikolai. Graf Spee will certainly show up soon, my guess is Thursday. Just for Christmas - when everyone is opening the wallets anyway. I think I'll buy AGS. Not because of the reviews but because of her uniqueness and looks.

Habe sie heute auch mal wieder etwas ausgiebiger bewegt. Dieses Mal nun mit dem lvl5 Skill + Modul für manuelle Sekundärbatterie. Mir gefällt es super, der Unterschied zu ohne Skill ist spürbar auch wenn sie nur 1x2 und 4x1 von den 15cm Röhren hat. Mit CE überlebt man sicherlich häufiger aber ich lasse sie jetzt doch erstmal auf 2ndary :-)

That would be an a lot better marketing move than anyone here expects.

Yes Right. But then the lines / connections overlap each other. Not sure if it is a problem but as of now we haven't seen such thing.

Das sieht doch vielversprechend aus!

Hatte sie mir zugelegt, weil ich nach Aoba und Myoko von den IJN Kreuzern begeistert war und ich das schlanke Design dieser Schiffe einfach mag. Ich hatte glaube ich einen ziemlich miesen Start mit der Atago aber mittlerweile kann ich mich den Lobeshymnen hier nur noch anschließen. Toller Trainer (besonders mit Dragon Flagge), druckt Credits und macht richtig Spaß! Eine super Steigerung zur Myoko.

I have more of a technical question and maybe you guys know an answer. I also built full trees out of curiosity. However I came across the following question: At the moment the trees in the game are strict pyramids. Meaning from T3 cruiser you move to the T3 (opening) BB. From T4 BB you side step to the T4 CV (Hermes, Eagle or Argus). How would that look like when the 2nd BB line (BCs) enter the scene? Logically you would side step from Dreadnought to Invincible. Would that mean that getting to the CVs would than lead you from T3 CL - T3 BB - T3 BC - T4 BC - T4 CV? And how would that look like in existing trees? Any thoughts on that?

Diese Diskussion wird ja wirklich immer besser ;-) Das sind halt wohl die Freuden, eine virtuelle Community zu managen. Leute, entspannt euch doch mal.

WOW!! Just checket the Forum there and these guys are p*ssed! Holy cow ;-) Well I guess especially the Americans really wanted that ship. I am really fine with WG giving out presents as a little "thank you" but somehow they always manage to mess up the customer relation piece although I am sure they really had the best intentions.

Agincourt would be incredibly OP I fear. Yes, her armour was bad but that doesn't really matter due to angling in this game. On top, more small guns are a big advantage over fewer but bigger guns (RNG). I agree she could be premium but don't see how she would be even remotely balanced. @Sharpie: you forget the most interesting ships the BB lines will offer: the Battlecruisers onT3-5! Most likely Invincible-Lion-Tiger I further think Iron Duke will be T5. However Revenge would be nice as she would add to the theme "bigger guns a tier earlier than others". But I am fine with either one.

Ok ;-)

Zur Zeit ohne Skill da Kapitän wech. Habe derzeit mit dem 4er AFT Skill und bald bekommt sie ihren 5er Skill. Habe testweise mal das Modul für die Sekundären drin. In den letzten paar Testrunden kam ich aber nur einmal nah genug heran, sie auch einzusetzen (7,2km). Entweder habe ich sie etwas verlernt oder das Meta ist nochmal deutlich statischer geworden. Schaue mir das nochmal an aber baue sie möglicherweise auf CE und das Hauptwaffemmodul um. Ich teste das mal

Ich mag die Stürme. Manchmal hat man drin halt Pech aber wenigstens ein kleines bisschen Abwechslung. Ist halt alles ein bisschen konstruiert und statisch aber ich finde es trotzdem ganz gut und auf skle Fälle besser als ohne!

And another one of these.... Ok, so the mode is fine. It needs some more work and a lot of tweaking - wouldn't even call it "rework" as that sounds like a complete rework. Which is NOT the case but apparently OP dislikes the mode that much that he tries to imply that. Btw. The choices are still not spot on. Your choice is only between 100% fine and total rework. It's somewhere in between I'd say.

I like the suggestion and it would add some variety. With regards to money - yes it does. The more players play the more likely it is they will spend real money. So on the long run - all that keeps ppl playing will generate money.

My strong guess is that the latter will happen. Paper+fantasy on T9+10 (8 is usually the WW2 ship tier so a lot of nations can still fill 8). T4-6 will continue to see fantasy refits all over the place. I think a fundamental difference is that WG doesn't see a problem with that while I clearly do. And you are right about the power progression. WG didn't fully think the progression through but took only IJN and USN to calibrate the game's scale. Both navies are "topheavy" with regards to timeline with little significance during the first important third of the century and a extremely heavy emphasis on WW2. As you said, ship vs ship battles happened much earlier than that - during the pacific war there were only two (!) BB vs BZb encounters in total. The real war was fought by the carriers and planes with support from DD and CL / CA. Coming back to the progression piece: the scale does make a lot of sense for tanks but it doesn't do naval warfare any justice. Unfortunately WG jinxed themselves only looking at the two starting navies at the beginning and not designing an overall balanced scenario. That is exactly what leads to this "shoe horning" as seen with the RN cruisers and the GER battleship fantasy refits. And the more you try to fudge onto this - the more difficult it will be to make things fit. I really like the game but am disappointed by the above.

@Aahrhg: ich hab sie behalten und fahre sie auch mehr oder weniger regelmäßig. Die Hindenburg habe ich auch aber Roon ist irgendwie tankier. Zu deinem anderen Punkt: ich habe das Hauptarti Modul drin aber nehme gern Flaggen und Kapitän Skills für die Sekundären mit. Es kann zwar sein, dass du sie das ganze Match nicht einsetzen kannst aber wenn dann ist es richtig witzig! Am schönsten ist es mit Hydro und knatternden Sekundären in den Nebel zu Brummen. DE ist aber in vielen Fällen sicher effizienter aber Stkundäre machen mehr Spaß :-)

Amagi hat nach WG Art die Brücke der Nagato, den Schornstein der Yamato und den Bug der Akagi bekommen (der @Entenschnabel"). Aber: der Schornstein ist überdimensioniert (Yamato war 20.000 t größer?), der Bug passt zu der Trägervariante aber weniger zum Schlachtkreuzer. Einzig die Brücke ist mehr oder minder plausibel aber da wir die gleiche auf der Nagato haben wirkt sie ebenfalls billig. Mir gefällt es nicht, außerdem sieht die Version extrem topheavy aus.

WILHELMSHAFEN WW1 ;-)

True. But this is also due to the game mechanics. IRL Yamato had some serious shortcomings, such as fire control and shells. I read that the shells were not nearly as effective as the huge caliber suggests. Combined with fire superior fire control + radar on Iowa I would see the two as equal. On the game however they are clearly not equal in strength. That would supports that it would have been an option to reduce high tiers by one. I guess the reason is more WG's obsession with fantasy + paper projects.

I admit I also think that Tier 8-10 could have been compressed into 2 as there are tons of fake or paper ships. I don't mind them but they kind of block a tier when you only have 10 you want to use. Imo it would have been enough though to split the Training ships into a separate training tier and bump up carriers to start at T5. By that you could have the Pre-Dreadnought generation at T1, the "Dreadnought revolution" at T2 and have still two tiers left for pre/post Jutland ships. Unfortunately WG doesn't care about these ships as they are more or less only seen as fillers for the low tiers. Most players are rushing up the tiers too so any changes seem unlikely at this point. At the end the three tiers I mentioned above in the alternative power progression are more or less T3 today. That's why you have totally inferior designs like the South Carolina at the same tier as the pretty mature Kaiser dreadnought. Btw: I could easily see that RN fans will be pretty angry as well as the biggest part of the British BB fleet would only fit into T3-5..

Das ist doch das Schöne. Einmal gewonnen und schön reden wir wieder von der Champions League ;-)

That would ne nice. However, each national flavour usually comes at a cost. What was their design inherent disadvantage?

Bei dem Wort "interessant" im Zusammenhang mit WG schwant mir allerdings böses... Ich lasse mich da mal überraschen