1MajorKoenig

Aaaaaaaand ..... another NERF??!!! Make CVs useless again? Really guys ...

Sure thing dude. And what would you’ve done if the enemy wouldn’t have been a CV but a DD? (Hint: you would have eaten Torps with no possibility to spot him either. So don’t worry - and yes there are situations in the game that suck)

Wut? AA is completely overbuffed. Have you tried T6+8 CVs yourself?

Interessant aber ok. Dann sind wir hier eben unterschiedlicher Auffassung

Sorr aber das stimmt einfach nicht. Es war 1-vs-1 der CVs. Der einzige Punkt, dem ich zustimm ist T1+2 für Pre-Dreadnoughts

Sind im Äxl im Results-Fred bis auf die neuen CVLs (und ja, keine Vornamen. Einfach Richthofen und Immelmann). Guckst du hier:

Also das kann ich überhaupt nicht nachvollziehen. Früher waren die CVs komplett losgelöst vom Rest - klar. Wenn sie überhaupt dabei waren. Aber jetzt ist es eben KEIN 1-vs-1 mehr. Jetzt muss der CV komplett mit den anderen Schiffen zusammenspielen. Spotten ist dabei kein „Zufall“ sondern Hauptbestandteil zu Beginn der Matches. Keine Ahnung, was für ein Spiel du spielst ehrlich gesagt. Und wieso denn bitte „Fremdkörper“? Sind Träger nicht zufällig die wichtigsten Kriegsschiffe der Ära in der das Spiel angesiedelt ist?

Sooo, dann haben wir es ja auch endlich :-) Sieger mit 8 Votes ist „Elbe“ und wird damit Typschiff der „Elbe-Klasse“ CVLs! Die weiteren beiden Einheiten werden „Rhein“ und „Weser“ heißen (je 6 Votes). Danke an alle, die mitgestimmt haben! @Walther_K_Nehring damit sollten alle 6 Schiffsnamen nun da sein :-)

Because Aircraft Carriers are not Warships....?

+1 for that - not for your RTS remark :-)

Ah so na dann - ok

Wieso denn T5? Sie hat doch gameplay mäßig außer der Flak nix vom Refit? AP ist WW1, Feuerrate sowieso generft und Geschwindigkeit auch WW1. Sehe da eigentlich keinen Grund ein Tier runter zu gehen

Wieso bist du bitte nicht Designer bei WG? 1 Mio x Yes auf Toast! Und diesen gehauenen Atlantikbug auch bitte ab

Wieso? - Alaska kommt für 1mio Free XP sobald sich die Träger etwas gesetzt haben - alles auf Mal ist ja auch etwas viel oder? - Azuma kommt auf T9 für Free XP - Super-B-65 kommt als T10 für Kohle - Neutrashimy kommt mit Zombie-Heal und als Gimmick-Show für Stahl auf T9

Ja schneller schießen wäre bitter nötig bei der Gurke! Die Genauigkeit ist im Verhältnis das kleinste Problem... Ja neue AP Granaten wäre super, dazu besserer Reload. AA = sch…. egal

Numbers keep fluctuating. Your sheet shows DDs relatively constant and a much more even distribution between the classes. Where is the problem? EDIT: looked at low tier - but even the high tier graph doesn’t look overly alarming does it?

This plus the current AA-“Balans” doesn’t welcome new players. Risk is that WG loses a lot of interested players in the process if it takes too long. But let’s see - too early for panic

I have seen pretty normal numbers. 20-30k at busy times and much less (around 7k) at quieter times. Nothing scientific but I haven’t noticed any difference

Exactly what I would at least try to achieve. Some basic AA controlled by AI - and maybe some minimal interaction such as the old „click-on-squadron“ or this „sector-thingy“ which will always give you a reasonable but beatable auto-defense. And than an active mode - for example player control of AA guns or so for a possibility to apply skill to raise the effect. Not sure it would work but the overall concept sounds much more attractive to me. Games like Battlestations Pacific had that but also the overall gameplay & pace was very different / slower so it is probably hard to compare EDIT: this would make AA-ships pretty interesting to play potentially btw

Well I mostly ignored them indeed and even switched out Def AA for hydro on most of my cruisers as the amount of battles with CVs didn’t really justify the invest in it it for me. AA is certainly a big topic again. Which is probably a good thing by itself. Too bad AA is currently a mess. Even if they find a more reasonable balance the main problem of player vs RNG stays. There is no real player skill in AA other than positioning. If that could be changed I think we could get a little closer to PvP also for the CV strike part

This - coupled with overbuffed auto-win constant AA DPS. It’s not unplayable but sucks

You need to fix you sarcasm detector dude. Of course a game with only Battleships would be boring. But the amount of complaining about the other three classes sometimes feels like people wanting it. However - WG decided to have 4 classes (for now) in the game and should aim for making all four equally viable. And yes it needs tons of gameplay concessions otherwise a Battleship would obliterate Cruisers and destroyers in these artificially small melee fights. Same with CVs, same with limited ammo and Torpedoes. And yes, of course also carriers need to r altered to function within the realm of this game - so what? I think people got far too used to not having Carriers in the game.

Spotting at T6 is fine and dandy but you are relying on your team to make the point. I find that actual brute strike force is pretty pitiful compared to a same tier BB attack. An IJN torp Hit does what - 3-5k damage? That is one single AP penetration. Flooding is nerfed to nothing and AP bombers have to spend time in the AA constant DPS bubbles - which by the way damage all planes at the same time and not one by one. Yes, spotting might be powerful but the rest is pretty underwhelming at T6. EDIT: and no you cannot balance everything only based on T10

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I disagree. Everything CAN be fixed. It’s just pixels. Question is more of you want to put effort in it and if you know what you’re doing